How to pronounce Fugue as in Fugue Machine

CracklePot

@1nsomniak said:

@syrupcore said:
This is my single favorite Americanism. It's a really really weird one in that I've never been able to determine a source. People from all over the country say it but there's no place where most of the people say it. Mind, I lived in DC for 15 years and have lived 5 miles from the Washington State border for the last 12. Been long fascinated and had I heard you say it I would have asked you where you were from. Data thus far remains inconclusive.

Could it be the Transatlantic/Mid-Atlantic accent? Its interesting in that it arose more from movies and boarding schools than a geographical area.

https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/transatlantic-accent-why-actors-in-old-movies-talked-with-a-weird-accent

(although I kind of think they would say Whattah for water but Im not sure)

My dad was from Indiana. I think I may have picked up the pronunciation from him, but not sure.

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@wigglelights said:
First exposed to the word when I heard the Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor as a young boy....

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First time I was aware of that piece, was when it was played in the original Rollerball movie. At the time, infamous for violence which, by today’s standards, is tame. But really about one man beating the system.

Michael_R_Grant

What really offends me, being a big Nintendo fan, is how Americans pronounce ‘Mario’. MARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIO!

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@Michael_R_Grant said:
What really offends me, being a big Nintendo fan, is how Americans pronounce ‘Mario’. MARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIO!

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I’m not in the least offended by how anyone pronounces anything. Perhaps befuddled might be a better word to describe how certain words or phrases that get altered affect me when I hear them.

Jag-whaar instead of Jag-you-are.
Aloomin-uhm instead of al-you-min-ee-uhm
‘Erb instead of herb.
In back as opposed to behind.
Fawcett instead of tap.

Then there’s the date thing. To a Brit (and I believe the majority of the world) today expressed in numerals alone, is 7/05/2018. But in the US, it is 05/07/2018. Never did get how putting the month first made any sense.

knewspeak

Nuclear - Nucular, where U from?

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@knewspeak said:
Nuclear - Nucular, where U from?

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Also heard people pronounce this is new-killer.

u0421793

@Zen210507 said:
… Never did get how putting the month first made any sense.

It doesn’t. It can’t. It is simply incorrect. However, the world at large has been polluted with the two standards (the way everybody does it, vs the way those Americans do it incorrectly) which is why I far prefer the Japanese standard (and have persuaded everyone at work to do it that way, because it is safer). The Japanese do it more or less like a unix timestamp or a SMPTE timecode – they specify year first then month then date, and if you kept going you’d also add hour and minute and second. Hence, today is 2018-05-07.

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Feuwwgaah?

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@wigglelights said:
First exposed to the word when I heard the Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor as a young boy....

Will

@u0421793 said:

@Zen210507 said:
… Never did get how putting the month first made any sense.

It doesn’t. It can’t. It is simply incorrect. However, the world at large has been polluted with the two standards (the way everybody does it, vs the way those Americans do it incorrectly) which is why I far prefer the Japanese standard (and have persuaded everyone at work to do it that way, because it is safer). The Japanese do it more or less like a unix timestamp or a SMPTE timecode – they specify year first then month then date, and if you kept going you’d also add hour and minute and second. Hence, today is 2018-05-07.

^ the correct way.

American way is just the inverse (small/to/large).

CracklePot

Time doesn’t exist anyway, you egg-heads.

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@CracklePot said:
Time doesn’t exist anyway, you egg-heads.

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But who is Kevin?

knewspeak

@Zen210507 said:

@CracklePot said:
Time doesn’t exist anyway, you egg-heads.

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But who is Kevin?

JMJ's sibling.

lovadamusic

We want the months before the days, like we want the hours before the minutes. Bigger to smaller. We often don’t include the year when specifying a date, so it gets tacked on at the end when needed. It makes sense to us ‘mericans, for whatever that’s worth.

ExAsperis99

Although it's interesting that "herb" had no "h" sound in British English until the 19th century. Which sounds logical.

u0421793

@lovadamusic said:
We want the months before the days, like we want the hours before the minutes. Bigger to smaller. We often don’t include the year when specifying a date, so it gets tacked on at the end when needed. It makes sense to us ‘mericans, for whatever that’s worth.

Surely at least one of you has noticed that a year is bigger than a month?

lovadamusic

@u0421793 said:

@lovadamusic said:
We want the months before the days, like we want the hours before the minutes. Bigger to smaller. We often don’t include the year when specifying a date, so it gets tacked on at the end when needed. It makes sense to us ‘mericans, for whatever that’s worth.

Surely at least one of you has noticed that a year is bigger than a month?

Yes, growing up, we wrestle with this inconsistency every time we must include the year in the date. Like with so much they fed us, I eventually learned to accept it, but I know it must play at least some factor in my general disillusionment.

1nsomniak

@ccs2 said:

@wigglelights said:
First exposed to the word when I heard the Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor as a young boy....

Cool song but these guys look like when crappy 80s sitcoms needed a "punk" character

CracklePot

@1nsomniak said:

@ccs2 said:

@wigglelights said:
First exposed to the word when I heard the Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor as a young boy....

Cool song but these guys look like when crappy 80s sitcoms needed a "punk" character

That’s because they were actually basing that look on these guys. They are the real deal, 80’s British Punk band.

1nsomniak

@CracklePot said:

@1nsomniak said:

@ccs2 said:

@wigglelights said:
First exposed to the word when I heard the Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor as a young boy....

Cool song but these guys look like when crappy 80s sitcoms needed a "punk" character

That’s because they were actually basing that look on these guys. They are the real deal, 80’s British Punk band.

Have to admit I haven't heard of them, were they actually accepted by real punks back in the day?
I looked at their wikipedia page and got a vibe like they were a punk version of Weird Al or the Monkeys.

Also this graph of lineup changes is pretty funny:

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CracklePot

@1nsomniak That chart is funny. So the band is pretty much Olga, the singer/guitarist.

I have to admit the were pretty hokey, even back then. They were a punk comedy act with a weird gimmick, but I thought they were one of the best bands in terms of musicianship, if that word even applies to punk. They played pretty uptempo, but were super-tight and kinda zany. The Dickies are an American band that had a similar shtick, or even NOFX, but without their wit and social/political commentary.
The hardcore punk crowd may not have liked them much, but I sustained my worst punk show injury at a Toy Dolls show back in the late ‘80s. Some dude ran across the pit, flew through the air, and slammed into my head and face with his shoulder and forearm. I got a concussion and spent the rest of the show sitting down, dizzy, with an insane headache. Ha, what a load of stupid-ass fun that was.

Will

@u0421793 said:

@lovadamusic said:
We want the months before the days, like we want the hours before the minutes. Bigger to smaller. We often don’t include the year when specifying a date, so it gets tacked on at the end when needed. It makes sense to us ‘mericans, for whatever that’s worth.

Surely at least one of you has noticed that a year is bigger than a month?

Just realized I spelled out rest-of-the-world time above, not 'merican. Classic 'merican. I guess it does go from small to large as far as possible numerical values.

I also guess it's down to how we speak dates. It's usually in the form of "She was born on January the tenth." Or "Pere Ubu is playing June third"

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@lovadamusic said:
It makes sense to us ‘mericans, for whatever that’s worth.

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You do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard.... for the rest of the world to understand.

Just to be fair, here’s a few British English examples that befuddle others.

https://youtu.be/fhYsOqIaU9k

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@CracklePot said:
The Dickies are an American band that had a similar shtick.

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Still love their irreverent, hundred miles per hour take, on ‘Nights in White Satin.’

https://youtu.be/_aLpwtaLDw8

Michael_R_Grant

‘Could care less’ is just WRONG.

Also, Craig is not ‘Creg’.

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Use of English in general is deteriorating. Only recently, the BBC ran a headline -

‘Police shoot dead black man.’

AndyPlankton

@Zen210507 said:
Use of English in general is deteriorating. Only recently, the BBC ran a headline -

‘Police shoot dead black man.’

Why would you shoot an already dead person

AndyPlankton

I get this all the time, what with me being from down south..and the rest of my family being northerners

Countless times I've heard...its baff not baarrrf....paff not parrff

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@AndyPlankton said:

@Zen210507 said:
Use of English in general is deteriorating. Only recently, the BBC ran a headline -

‘Police shoot dead black man.’

Why would you shoot an already dead person

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Exactly the point, AP.

What they were trying to say, of course, was ‘Police shoot black man dead.’