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OT. How Apple (legally) Cook the Books

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  • @Arpseechord said:
    This thread was fun ......what happened? :D

    >

    I’m having a great time. :)

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @ToMess said:
    Large american companies pay next to no taxes, because they pay politicians to get things like tax cuts and other loopholes to pay less taxes. Thats where the real problem is, political corruption needs to be made illegal

    +1

    There’s no level playing field in business these days. Big corporates have an unfair advantage over small and medium sized companies, stifling competition and innovation.

    What would there be if there was no Apple? Probably several thousand smaller companies creating amazing new things for all kinds of markets.

    I’d be curious to know what led to this conclusion.

    I get that big corporations have too much power and influence in our government, can be pretty ruthless when it comes to exploitation, and are typically not driven by humanitarian concerns, but I think Apple’s, and a few other big corporation’s, skill at making gazillions of dollars is why we have the mobile music making capability we have today. The tablets we hold in our hands would either be far less powerful, or they would be too expensive for most people to afford. Many of the developers we love who make such inexpensive music apps for iOS couldn’t afford the hardware either, and the companies that did make the apps would charge hundreds of dollars. We musicians could protest by boycotting the bastards, but we like our iPads.

  • @lovadamusic said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @ToMess said:
    Large american companies pay next to no taxes, because they pay politicians to get things like tax cuts and other loopholes to pay less taxes. Thats where the real problem is, political corruption needs to be made illegal

    +1

    There’s no level playing field in business these days. Big corporates have an unfair advantage over small and medium sized companies, stifling competition and innovation.

    What would there be if there was no Apple? Probably several thousand smaller companies creating amazing new things for all kinds of markets.

    I’d be curious to know what led to this conclusion.

    History.

  • edited May 2018

    @MonzoPro said:

    @lovadamusic said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @ToMess said:
    Large american companies pay next to no taxes, because they pay politicians to get things like tax cuts and other loopholes to pay less taxes. Thats where the real problem is, political corruption needs to be made illegal

    +1

    There’s no level playing field in business these days. Big corporates have an unfair advantage over small and medium sized companies, stifling competition and innovation.

    What would there be if there was no Apple? Probably several thousand smaller companies creating amazing new things for all kinds of markets.

    I’d be curious to know what led to this conclusion.

    History.

    And whats happening in US politics at the moment as well. Thats what politics is for most politicians, a business model in which they get money in return for making things easier for large businesses.

    Best/most successful politicians are those who raise the most funds from big "donors".. Look at bernie, he would had won both hillary and trump, but he didnt play the game like the party wanted so they did everything in their power(including voter fraud etc) for hillary to win. Hillary and his husband are one of the all time cash cows for dnc and thats what matters

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @lovadamusic said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @ToMess said:
    Large american companies pay next to no taxes, because they pay politicians to get things like tax cuts and other loopholes to pay less taxes. Thats where the real problem is, political corruption needs to be made illegal

    +1

    There’s no level playing field in business these days. Big corporates have an unfair advantage over small and medium sized companies, stifling competition and innovation.

    What would there be if there was no Apple? Probably several thousand smaller companies creating amazing new things for all kinds of markets.

    I’d be curious to know what led to this conclusion.

    History.

    I should have known.

  • @ToMess said:

    Look at bernie, he would had won both hillary and trump, but he didnt play the game like the party wanted
    >

    Eh. Wasn’t he the bloke who spent months explaining how neither the Donald or HC was fit to be President, then when his own party used illegal tricks to derail his campaign.... started shouting vote Hilary?

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @Arpseechord said:
    This thread was fun ......what happened? :D

    >

    I’m having a great time. :)

    Happy camper :) B)

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @ToMess said:

    Look at bernie, he would had won both hillary and trump, but he didnt play the game like the party wanted
    >

    Eh. Wasn’t he the bloke who spent months explaining how neither the Donald or HC was fit to be President, then when his own party used illegal tricks to derail his campaign.... started shouting vote Hilary?

    He simply recognized who was by leaps and bounds better for the country he’s devoted to. Clinton is much closer to his ideology, Trump is clearly against almost everything he stands for, and this is how the two-party system works on both sides. You try to beat up your opponents in the primaries, and then they become your friends after the nomination. Too bad more of Bernie’s followers didn’t get the message.

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    If they start frustrating users with hardware decisions by putting form over function, alienate developers who move away to other platforms or just support those as well, then history could very easily repeat itself.

    >

    Agreed. Although, that would be such a missed opportunity, and mean LOADS of work transferring stuff over, etc. Such is my experience with the ways of Microsoft, I would much prefer for Apple to not alienate its user base. :)

    That said, I’ve been looking - and I stress looking - at laptops. **The MacBook was ruled out straight away, due to the stupidly high expense, lack of ports, **and ‘features’ I don’t need. Meanwhile, there are a couple of Windows laptops which truly are desktop replacements. Still quite pricey, but not when compared to the Mac. The Big fly in the ointment, of course, is always Windows 10.

    I would love to know if the models I’m looking at would support wiping 10 and installing 7 64-bit. Probably not, though, as manufacturers are in cahoots with MS, and MS is only interested in pushing the latest OS.

    Do you have any idea what you can do with those Thunderbolt 3 ports of MacBooks? They have a throughput of 40Gbs! That's so much you can see those MacBooks as modular computer systems. Lots of people are just doing that: https://egpu.io

  • capitalism, never liked it
    I’d rather trade a bowl of rice for apps

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @ToMess said:

    Look at bernie, he would had won both hillary and trump, but he didnt play the game like the party wanted
    >

    Eh. Wasn’t he the bloke who spent months explaining how neither the Donald or HC was fit to be President, then when his own party used illegal tricks to derail his campaign.... started shouting vote Hilary?

    Nah, hes the bloke who despite got personally hurt, still wanted the lesser evil in power who hurt him. Thats noble

  • @lovadamusic said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    @ToMess said:

    Look at bernie, he would had won both hillary and trump, but he didnt play the game like the party wanted
    >

    Eh. Wasn’t he the bloke who spent months explaining how neither the Donald or HC was fit to be President, then when his own party used illegal tricks to derail his campaign.... started shouting vote Hilary?

    He simply recognized who was by leaps and bounds better for the country he’s devoted to. Clinton is much closer to his ideology, Trump is clearly against almost everything he stands for, and this is how the two-party system works on both sides. You try to beat up your opponents in the primaries, and then they become your friends after the nomination. Too bad more of Bernie’s followers didn’t get the message.

    Well bernie is still easily the most popular politician in US, so hopefully next time people have learned something from trump, hillary and the establishment

  • edited May 2018

    @ToMess said:

    @lovadamusic said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    @ToMess said:

    Look at bernie, he would had won both hillary and trump, but he didnt play the game like the party wanted
    >

    Eh. Wasn’t he the bloke who spent months explaining how neither the Donald or HC was fit to be President, then when his own party used illegal tricks to derail his campaign.... started shouting vote Hilary?

    He simply recognized who was by leaps and bounds better for the country he’s devoted to. Clinton is much closer to his ideology, Trump is clearly against almost everything he stands for, and this is how the two-party system works on both sides. You try to beat up your opponents in the primaries, and then they become your friends after the nomination. Too bad more of Bernie’s followers didn’t get the message.

    Well bernie is still easily the most popular politician in US, so hopefully next time people have learned something from trump, hillary and the establishment

    LMAO :D

  • @ToMess said:
    Nah, hes the bloke who despite got personally hurt, still wanted the lesser evil in power who hurt him. Thats noble

    >

    Isn’t this where we all go wrong? Thinking that a ‘lesser evil’ is good enough. I mean, taking the US and UK as examples, are H. Clinton, the Donald, T. May and Corbyn really the very best people we can find. I wouldn’t trust any of them to tell me the time of day!

    Respecting the forum, I will go no further than referring honourable gentlemen, gentlewomen and those undecided to this interesting quote from Bernie.

    http://www.azquotes.com/quote/1598553

  • @bert said:
    Do you have any idea what you can do with those Thunderbolt 3 ports of MacBooks?

    >

    I do know what I can’t do with them, dongle free. :)

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @ToMess said:
    Nah, hes the bloke who despite got personally hurt, still wanted the lesser evil in power who hurt him. Thats noble

    >

    Isn’t this where we all go wrong? Thinking that a ‘lesser evil’ is good enough. I mean, taking the US and UK as examples, are H. Clinton, the Donald, T. May and Corbyn really the very best people we can find. I wouldn’t trust any of them to tell me the time of day!

    Respecting the forum, I will go no further than referring honourable gentlemen, gentlewomen and those undecided to this interesting quote from Bernie.

    http://www.azquotes.com/quote/1598553

    Nah, everything went wrong before and this tries to soften the damage. Anyways it was hard to say if trump or hillary actually was the lesser evil, but trump definitely have showed us that he truly is a money hungry sociopath, who unlike most sociopaths, is dumb as F.

    But i think even discussing about this is irrelevant. I dont agree every move of bernie, but there isnt a single person on earth who i would 100% agree on everything..

  • @ToMess said:
    But i think even discussing about this is irrelevant. I dont agree every move of bernie, but there isnt a single person on earth who i would 100% agree on everything..

    >

    Fair enough. :)

  • @ToMess said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    @ToMess said:
    Nah, hes the bloke who despite got personally hurt, still wanted the lesser evil in power who hurt him. Thats noble

    >

    Isn’t this where we all go wrong? Thinking that a ‘lesser evil’ is good enough. I mean, taking the US and UK as examples, are H. Clinton, the Donald, T. May and Corbyn really the very best people we can find. I wouldn’t trust any of them to tell me the time of day!

    Respecting the forum, I will go no further than referring honourable gentlemen, gentlewomen and those undecided to this interesting quote from Bernie.

    http://www.azquotes.com/quote/1598553

    Nah, everything went wrong before and this tries to soften the damage. Anyways it was hard to say if trump or hillary actually was the lesser evil, but trump definitely have showed us that he truly is a money hungry sociopath, who unlike most sociopaths, is dumb as F.

    But i think even discussing about this is irrelevant. I dont agree every move of bernie, but there isnt a single person on earth who i would 100% agree on everything..

    At the end of the day, by their very nature, all politicians are going to have sides to them we don’t like. But I agree, settling for the least worst is the best we can hope for. He frustrates the hell out of me with a lot of things, but our version of Bernie, Corbyn, seems the least corrupt of the bunch here so gets my vote.

    Note to forum - that’s not a cue for political debate. I don’t care what you think of my politics, and I have no interest in defending the above statement.

    Fingers in pies, jobs and tax breaks for the boys, politicians with second jobs on boards of businesses that then get all the government contracts....not good. It strangles the economy, pisses over the poor and feeds the greedy faces of the elite.

    Our lives are totally controlled by a small group of individuals in government and business. We need more choice and diversity, not less.

  • edited May 2018

    @MonzoPro said:
    Our lives are totally controlled by a small group of individuals in government and business. We need more choice and diversity, not less.

    >

    Choice is good, if it is real choice. Otherwise all we’re being offered is tweedle-dum or tweedle-dumber. That is not nearly good enough.

    If the political systems in the UK and US were businesses, they would have gone bust years ago!

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Our lives are totally controlled by a small group of individuals in government and business. We need more choice and diversity, not less.

    >

    Choice is good, if it is real choice. Otherwise all we’re being offered is tweedle-dum or tweedle-dumber. That is not nearly good enough.

    If the political systems in the UK and US were businesses, they would have gone bust years ago!

    They have gone bust, so shhhhh.

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @bert said:
    Do you have any idea what you can do with those Thunderbolt 3 ports of MacBooks?

    >

    I do know what I can’t do with them, dongle free. :)

    If you don't want to use a dongle use daisy chain. If you don't like to use a cord, use BT or WiFi.

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @ToMess said:
    Nah, hes the bloke who despite got personally hurt, still wanted the lesser evil in power who hurt him. Thats noble

    >

    Isn’t this where we all go wrong? Thinking that a ‘lesser evil’ is good enough. I mean, taking the US and UK as examples, are H. Clinton, the Donald, T. May and Corbyn really the very best people we can find. I wouldn’t trust any of them to tell me the time of day!

    Respecting the forum, I will go no further than referring honourable gentlemen, gentlewomen and those undecided to this interesting quote from Bernie.

    http://www.azquotes.com/quote/1598553

    I was an idealist when I was young. There's such a thing as pragmatism. If someone actually believes in what Bernie is about, and that his vision is best for the country, then Hillary clearly is at least going to do far less damage to what, presumably, a Sanders' supporter has been fighting for. Real people get hurt when the wrong candidate wins. In the end, there were two realistic choices. That's why voters sometimes have to support a lesser evil.

  • edited May 2018

    @lovadamusic said:
    I was an idealist when I was young. There's such a thing as pragmatism. If someone actually believes in what Bernie is about, and that his vision is best for the country, then Hillary clearly is at least going to do far less damage to what, presumably, a Sanders' supporter has been fighting for. Real people get hurt when the wrong candidate wins. In the end, there were two realistic choices. That's why voters sometimes have to support a lesser evil.

    >

    I take your point concerning lesser evil, and why people go along with that. But at the same time reject that these choices must always be the best we can possibly hope for. That, is a philosophy perpetuated by the liars and criminals running all major political parties.

    The ‘best of a bad bunch’ maintains the status quo, and thwarts genuine progress. What to do about that is too wider topic, and obviously too political for discussion here.

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @lovadamusic said:
    I was an idealist when I was young. There's such a thing as pragmatism. If someone actually believes in what Bernie is about, and that his vision is best for the country, then Hillary clearly is at least going to do far less damage to what, presumably, a Sanders' supporter has been fighting for. Real people get hurt when the wrong candidate wins. In the end, there were two realistic choices. That's why voters sometimes have to support a lesser evil.

    >

    I take your point concerning lesser evil, and why people go along with that. But at the same time reject that these choices must always be the best we can possibly hope for. That, is a philosophy perpetuated by the liars and criminals running all major political parties.

    The ‘best of a bad bunch’ maintains the status quo, and thwarts genuine progress. What to do about that is too wider topic, and obviously too political for discussion here.

    This isn't really about partisan politics so much as it a discussion of civics. I'm not taking a side here, ideologically. Voters have a chance to educate themselves, and there are many candidates to choose from before it comes down to the final election. A democracy is only as strong as its people.

    Once it comes down to a final choice, we choose to take part or not. After losing the nomination, Sanders didn't take his ball and go home. He took part by backing the best candidate of two (realistically) running for the job. Clinton, for all her faults, has a long history of public service and has been on the right side of many of the issues that are important to Sanders. He made his best case during his campaign, and then took a position to move forward. We need criticism of the status quo, but without people willing to participate in the process, we move backwards.

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @lovadamusic said:
    I was an idealist when I was young. There's such a thing as pragmatism. If someone actually believes in what Bernie is about, and that his vision is best for the country, then Hillary clearly is at least going to do far less damage to what, presumably, a Sanders' supporter has been fighting for. Real people get hurt when the wrong candidate wins. In the end, there were two realistic choices. That's why voters sometimes have to support a lesser evil.

    >

    I take your point concerning lesser evil, and why people go along with that. But at the same time reject that these choices must always be the best we can possibly hope for. That, is a philosophy perpetuated by the liars and criminals running all major political parties.

    The ‘best of a bad bunch’ maintains the status quo, and thwarts genuine progress. What to do about that is too wider topic, and obviously too political for discussion here.

    I believe that despite trump having been proven to be a complete incompetent bafoon, something good will come from his presidency. He will(and has) undoubtebly cause tons of damage(likely more than hillary would had), but people get more gas to demand a real change to the system, have started getting more invelved in (bernie like, what normal countries call left wing) politics. Im sure that next president will be a better choise for the country. Chances for that happening if hillary would had won would be a lot smaller and same establisment shit would just keep on going.

    Mark my word, it wont take more than max 20 years until USA will be revolutionized greatly. Real left getting to power either peacefully or through civil war

  • @lovadamusic said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    @lovadamusic said:
    I was an idealist when I was young. There's such a thing as pragmatism. If someone actually believes in what Bernie is about, and that his vision is best for the country, then Hillary clearly is at least going to do far less damage to what, presumably, a Sanders' supporter has been fighting for. Real people get hurt when the wrong candidate wins. In the end, there were two realistic choices. That's why voters sometimes have to support a lesser evil.

    >

    I take your point concerning lesser evil, and why people go along with that. But at the same time reject that these choices must always be the best we can possibly hope for. That, is a philosophy perpetuated by the liars and criminals running all major political parties.

    The ‘best of a bad bunch’ maintains the status quo, and thwarts genuine progress. What to do about that is too wider topic, and obviously too political for discussion here.

    This isn't really about partisan politics so much as it a discussion of civics. I'm not taking a side here, ideologically. Voters have a chance to educate themselves, and there are many candidates to choose from before it comes down to the final election. A democracy is only as strong as its people.

    Once it comes down to a final choice, we choose to take part or not. After losing the nomination, Sanders didn't take his ball and go home. He took part by backing the best candidate of two (realistically) running for the job. Clinton, for all her faults, has a long history of public service and has been on the right side of many of the issues that are important to Sanders. He made his best case during his campaign, and then took a position to move forward. We need criticism of the status quo, but without people willing to participate in the process, we move backwards.

    Most politicians are looking for that ball in the long grass, by the time they find it, it will have gone flat.

  • I have no idea where some of you people get your "facts" from but Apple is the largest tax payer in the entire world.

    As the largest taxpayer in the world we’ve paid over $35 billion in corporate income taxes over the past three years

    https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/11/the-facts-about-apple-tax-payments/

  • @ToMess said:
    I believe that despite trump having been proven to be a complete incompetent bafoon, something good will come from his presidency.

    North Korean peace summit and avoiding major conflict with Russia in Syria are very good. Whatever our individual perceptions of the Donald may be.

    Mark my word, it wont take more than max 20 years until USA will be revolutionized greatly. Real left getting to power either peacefully or through civil war.

    >

    Surely, Left or Right having too much power would be equally bad. Also, in the US, I cannot imagine the Left even coming close to winning a Civil War.

    Horfully, people will remember that ‘jaw jaw’is better than ‘war war’ and talk out their differences. :)

  • edited May 2018

    > @Zen210507 said:
    Also, in the US, I cannot imagine the Left even coming close to winning a Civil War.

    They wouldn't have a chance. It would be the most hilarious war ever. If that's what they want, and some of them do, then I say bring it on! I'll stock up on popcorn if it should happen.

  • @CrazySynthMan said:
    I have no idea where some of you people get your "facts" from but Apple is the largest tax payer in the entire world.

    As the largest taxpayer in the world we’ve paid over $35 billion in corporate income taxes over the past three years

    https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/11/the-facts-about-apple-tax-payments/

    Lol

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