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Imagine iOS music making without Ampify apps!! My workflow would have been really impacted!
Discussing missing features is more interesting IMO if we talk about which technical approches can be used today on iOS using its modular workflows to helps the music being created.
Yep, default answer is always “Yes, we would like that feature too.”
That one has been rolled out every time for the past 2 years. They’re obviously not as keen as we are to see these features.
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Peace is a good place to be. My son graduates high school today. I am a bundle of emotions.
Congratulations to your son - that’s a great moment 👍
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Not nearly as tiresome as those who seem to think we are talking about god-like beings beyond questioning. Nobody here is ‘bashing’ the dev. Just expressing frustration.
As for your comment -
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What a silly thing to say. Everyone here can use those apps to make music. We’d love them to be even better! We’d love to PAY for them to be better.
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Us too. I only bother posting in threads like this because we care.
Thanks!
Just stating my opinion. Respect to all.
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We’re all on the same side.
Your soundpack title made me actually laugh out loud. Nicely done!
Yah we get excited by potential and hate to see it squandered. Bright side is if we are getting inspired by the potential then there are also devs out there who see the same and will figure a way to get it to us eventually.
Filing for Blocs Wave was promised- a long time ago. I have several other hobbies already.
Get real- these types of posts will continue as long as the forum exists- I quite enjoy reading them- unless they are offensive or rude. I’m quite sure the devs are not upset in the slightest about it all- and see it for what it is. The forum wouldn’t be the same without them. Anyone that doesn’t like reading them should maybe find another forum.
BlocsWave is a great tool but since AmpifyxNovation doesn’t want to go full iOS then Ableton Live is a must to finish songs.
I don’t need file system and I make beats from packs (proudly) then I finish them in Ableton (with export feature) or hire someone to do it for me.
I could ask for more pro tools in this workflow but I don’t want to deal with pro nothing anymore. Obviously I rarely buy new packs from them. I’ve sold all my novation gear and deleted Launchpad from my iDevices. Groovebox was less than 2 days when it was released and never more...
@jimpavloff it appears you can’t save user presets utilizing imported sounds. Just tried and when I went back to select them it told me “not found”. Can this be fixed?
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Exactly. If for whatever business reason, Ampify does not wish to further develop its apps along the much requested lines, then someone will spot a gap in the market and eventually move to occupy it.
Bring on Brambos Blocs.
BRAMBLOCS!
Free apps and demand for new features? Nope , just don’t use them .
Shouldn’t buy any IAP from the beginning, it’s not the developer’s fault .
Just an opinion....
I've easily gotten my money's worth from Blocs Wave and Launchpad, and I'm not even a power user. They provide something very cool to play around with, and I've had hours of fun putting bits together and jamming. I'd like some more functionality, but I bought the apps for what they were and feel lucky they made them even better than what I paid a whopping few dollars for to begin with. Looks like they're still updating them for free.
Where did this come from, where buyers expect more than what they bought? And if Novation isn't offering more to buy, then is it reasonable to think that the money isn't there?
Blocs wasn’t free with iAPs in the beggining sorry...
I know , I actually bought it ( it launched before ReSlice app ) ,but don’t use it ,plus I don’t expect any new feature.
My point is that we (including me) ,are spoiled by some apps that keep up updated and add new features. It doesn’t make sense to buy an app and expect to have new features even as IAPs. I used to do that with some apps ,but not anymore.
My only concern is if it makes it another year ( iOS update )
Emailing the devs ,keeping positive attitude, or channel that energy to rate the app on the App Store may have better results. In this thread , if I was a developer , I would be convinced never to post on forums .
Hope I didn’t offend anyone
I haven’t gotten along with any of their apps, but I have a lot of their gear that I like quite a bit. Do they do anything but 4/4 because I haven’t seen anything suggesting they do? Blocswave I bought when it wasn’t free. I can’t get the loops over 2 bars to start on bar one when hitting stop/start. I haven’t even tried Groovebox because of my dissatisfaction with the other apps. I love my Circuit, but have been hesitant to even try Groovebox.
Blocs wasn't free at the beginning, but it was very inexpensive. For the most part, for me it's worked as advertised. Yes, it's limited in some ways. Who didn't know that when they bought it? The loop packs must cost something to produce so, of course, they have a price. They must provide some amount of revenue stream for the company, but how much? Anyone who wasn't satisfied with the product should not have bought any IAPs anyway.
So why isn't the company still here responding to threads like this? Maybe they found better ways to spend their time?
I have really enjoyed the Novation apps. Launchpad S controller with iPad app syncing to my Novation Circuit was a gateway to iOS music making. Bought Blocs and Groove when they first came out (before they were free) and use them constantly for work. I make training videos as part of my job, and they are excellent apps for making quick and easy background tracks for videos.
That said, I am still disappointed by a few things. For example, on my old iPad (iOS9) the Launchpad app advertises the Pro Features Collection IAP. I bought it on my iPad mini (iOS 11), but can't use any of the effects or features on the old iOS. That seems like an oversight, but support has said it isn't supported. If it isn't supported it probably shouldn't be advertised?
Midi out from Groovebox would be amazing and would save me so much time.
Exporting my sets from Launchpad to Live would be great.
All in all, I am pretty happy with what Novation has empowered me to do with their apps.
+1 to all of this.
Also replying @lovadamusic
The promises of file system were around the the time before they change to free with iAPs mode so they introduce new features after made that change. Also changed the app entirely (reworked GUI and icon) but didn’t put the file system. Instead of, the audio engine was wrecked (from glitchs to volume levels bug between LP packs imported into Blocs and so...)
I see the point and I can live without any new feature (in fact I don’t need none of the usual and the ones I needed in the past are just an echo) but we are talking about trust and fidelity where these kind of roadmaps make some users dissapointed.
There’s where this topic starts, not where it ends.
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Agreed.
Strangely, some contributors can’t seem to grasp the positives of customers posting discontent. Okay, some feature requests may not be economically viable to introduce, but others c,early are. Based on how frequently they occur in other apps. For example, midi out.
Yet, there is a school of thought, not unlike Apple Fan Boys, which cannot or will not accept that while many developers are brilliant people, deserving of praise and support, our relationship with them is primarily commercial. That confers the right to say what could be better.
All four RTM members bought Blocs Wave when it wasn’t free, and bought Groovebox, and dozens of IAP’s. We have had very good value from BW, and would love to use both it and Groovebox even more. With additional functions we’d be happy to pay for.
i paid for blocs at full price. so no. not a free app for me. and the dev actually confirmed that a file system was coming before i purchased it. so I feel misled
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In my dealings direct with Ampify, I have always found the devs to be courteous and enthusiastic. So I can’t see anyone there being deliberately misleading.
Perhaps plans changed, though. If so, then it would be helpful to know that much requested features are never going to happen, and the priority - perhaps a commercial necessity - are EDM teens. Then, as has been suggested, another dev may take up the baton.
On the other hand, if actual development of these great apps is still planned, then in the words of the mighty Sooty ‘Izzy Wizzy, let’s get busy!’
Another way of thinking. I’ve bought my iPhone 7 Plus mostly for music making. After 8 years on Ableton and a few years without any music creation, I’ve put 1100 € in a idevice believing all the hype around that music platform. First month was all of disappointment, I realize lot of apps has lot of little bugs here and there, and the modular nature of iOS music because of features missing in this app or another. Already, idevices and all apps were a lot of money, and I said to myself that desktop/laptop for not hat much more will do better. I already had a laptop and software, so I had a B plan. But I’ve chosen after a while to try again and buyed Gadget, Audiobus, AUM and others apps. Things became interesting and I made first good tracks. Modular thing was huge to learn, and take many months. I started to accept that. I’ve then started to buy AU instruments and fxs, and find that some apps must be thinked and used for what they have not been made for at first: this is Blocs wave case. I realized some apps must be thinked as tools in a whole modular ecosystem, with an open mind. Blocs wave takes its power from Audiobus, AUM and all other AU/IAA/midi apps. I started to have lot of fun and passion for that music making environment, inventing my own workflow was/is truly a nice experience, having limits has pushed my creativity a lot. I also think it’s a whole economic ecosystem, as Apple dictates AppStore business model, devs have to use some concepts here, often with iaps and not often new features. Where it can be frustrating is when you put that kind of money on big phones or Pro iPads and then apps, and when you think about it Apple has the choice to put much more energy and money in our musicians market. I think they don’t realize that most musician in the world will use an idevice for music making with a more professional Apple approch. For now, us iOS musicians, make that pro approch by ourselves, let’s see all that workflow discussions on that forum, we’re like pioneers and it’s also a good thing and big part of the fun to be honest. This is challenging and inspiring!