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Tabletop update.....

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  • Reinstalled it, played with it for 5 minutes... deleted it again. I'm sick of their stupid bugs. If you ask me money for a stupid device like Zignal... make sure it damn works properly.

  • edited May 2015

    Instead of wasting money fixing this app, why not just support Audiobus and spend development time and money on apps people like. Your synths are fantastic, but trying to take tabletop to a level that audiobus has already reached seems like a waste of time. It's actually pretty frustrating that your synths don't support audiobus. If there was ever a time for app specialization, it would be with IOS.

  • edited May 2015

    whenever they say 'free update' i cringe :(

    Sorry, Tabletop is useless. FX are cheap and the paid synth RS4000 is weak. I see Electronic Arts in the eyes of Retronyms.

    No Audio Bus. My songs has never sounded the same after each update.

  • I am on the iPad PRO and I thought that having a better chip would prevent CRASHING!!! I guess not.. This is such a great app, yet after I invested a little money to get more IAP's this app doesn't stay open for more than a few seconds. I can't mess around, create custom pads with iMPC pro, or DO very much of anything before the app. CRASHES!!! THIS TRULY SUCKS WASTING TIME FOR NO REASON.. Unless you back out every 5 seconds & constantly quick save, your wasting time on these projects that don't ever let you get any work done. Having to create pads, synths, etc. OVER & OVER & over.... I don't want to give this a bad rating but seriously this isn't really fun at all anymore, putting in work only to have it crash will building up your set. Haven't even pressed play yet while still formatting a song and crash CRASH CRASH!!! LAME!!!

  • It is a puzzle. I deleted it a while back because of the crashing, but took another look a few months ago (Air1/latest) and was pleasantly surprised to find that I've hardly crashed since....odd bunny.

  • Didn't use it much after I first purchased it. Then went back for a long hard look. Crash crash crash crash......delete.

  • I been using it on and off on my iPad Air and i must say that i have not experience any crashes.

  • The crashes may be iPad pro only, noncrashy on iPad AIr 2

  • I was getting lots of crashes on my iPad Air 2 didn't even bother to install it on my iPad pro.

  • @Lacm1993
    That sucks, whats the occasion for the crashes? Maybe I'm doing something wrong lol. In truth I don't push it too hard, and like most of the other intense DAW and DAWish soft, (including Auria Pro and various gnarly IAA, and AB config: I don't do tweaking on the fly the way I can on laptop/desktop)
    It's worth writing Retronyms, they've got a different thing going on these with their support, last email contact I had with them was very cool and accommodating, and they've embraced public beta with IMPC pro (which I have lots of "success" crashing)

  • I have to to agree. Three support is good. I emailed them about if was possibly to update tableTop as a IAA, so we can record our projects into, for example, Auria Pro, or Cubasis. As TableTop will not be AudioBus at this present.......... Reply was no at this present time. Shame really.

  • @studs1966 said:
    I have to to agree. Three support is good. I emailed them about if was possibly to update tableTop as a IAA, so we can record our projects into, for example, Auria Pro, or Cubasis. As TableTop will not be AudioBus at this present.......... Reply was no at this present time. Shame really.

    The angle I've been working - since awhile, but I'm persistent - is stem export, allowing export of Tabletop projects to other iOS or desktop DAW. And Link of course. Message was that some kind of update is in the realm of possibility.

  • edited March 2016

    I tried Tabletop when I first got started in iOS, and after talking to their support got the distinct impression that they did not want to integrate with anything else and to keep it self contained, so I deleted it !

  • I think that, if you look at the history of iOS music production, Retronyms must have seen Tabletop as a competing technology to JACK and the young Audiobus: an environment that third-party developers would code support for so that their music apps could play together, routing audio through effects and to mixers and sharing sequencers. I think that, for that reason, Tabletop went the way of Betamax when Audiobus became the defacto standard for audio routing on iOS -- but what I don't understand is why... why Retronyms, years later, still refuses to come to Audiobus, who they must still see as a competitor -- when Audiobus compatibility is a selling feature, now. They're shooting themselves in the foot. They're cutting off their nose to spite their face.

    I booted up Tabletop just recently to really see if it was as terrible as I remember (poorly optimized, laggy, crashy), and it was pretty laggy, sure -- but you know, if it were touched up and marketed differently, I really think that Retronyms would have something.

    It needs to be marketed as a groove-box.

    It needs to be marketed as a competitor to the likes of KORG Gadget, which is really what it resembles -- but one that potentially supports third parties. It's like Caustic, it's like Gadget, it's like Rhythm Studio, but where you can organize your imaginary devices on an imaginary tabletop, plugging and unplugging cables -- I mean, come on, how cool is that? It's still as cool of an idea as it ever was. It was never going to be what Audiobus is (and what software like AUM is turning Inter-App Audio into): a way of routing and recording all of your iOS apps the way that you might record and mix individual hardware instruments. What Tabletop is, though, and what it should be marketed as, is a very cute AND rich app for creating cool demos with the convenience of single-app workflow and a fun, inspiring interface.

    Iron out the bugs. Sell some IAP. In the MPC 1.5 thread, @DanWalton said, "I won't make any excuses or talk about how/why they happened here. I just want to say sorry and going forward we are committed to making professional tools of professional quality." It really makes me want to take a second look at Retronyms, and I hope that they do maintain that commitment to making their apps more stable, more usable, and more friendly with external technologies -- because professional tools of professional quality, on iOS, have Audiobus support.

    I would love to see Tabletop start to realize its potential, because it's still a kick-ass idea for an app that could sell IAP very well, and there's really nothing quite like it (the closest things would be, like I said, Gadget and Caustic).

  • First step is to reduce the bundle price and get rid of stupid IAPs (charging for simple filters). 10€ would be a fair price for a bug free tabletop bundle.
    Caustic is far better (miles away) for the price . I use it a lot on my android phone...

  • The potential is there. It's worth noting that unlike Caustic and Gadget, it hosts IAA, and has iMini, iProphet, and iMPC, arguably in their best iteration.

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    The potential is there. It's worth noting that unlike Caustic and Gadget, it hosts IAA, and has iMini, iProphet, and iMPC, arguably in their best iteration.

    Apples and oranges, and I do admire Caustic, but if I had a record to make....

  • edited March 2016

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @Littlewoodg said:
    The potential is there. It's worth noting that unlike Caustic and Gadget, it hosts IAA, and has iMini, iProphet, and iMPC, arguably in their best iteration.

    Apples and oranges, and I do admire Caustic, but if I had a record to make....

    I'm guessing even with iMini, iProphet, and iMPC Pro on offer you'd opt for the Gadg...which I would totally get.

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