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This!
Apple, macOS, iOS, tvOS are all about beautiful products and apps whose looks and feels are unique to their platforms. Auria currently doesn't look like an iOS app - it doesn't have any nativity look or feel to it. I doubt if it even passes as a desktop app for its retro looks and controls. It needs a UI redesign/revamp. Also, they seem to push boundaries of iOS to make it more powerful which make Auria resource-hungry and crap out (track-freeze to make it work, etc) compared to Steinberg (with desktop apps under their belt) who is more cautious about dishing out features and make sure they don't crap out on memory or fail on claimed features. If an app is maxing out on resources even on newer devices or exploiting the resources even before they become available, we never get to enjoy the power or speed of new devices. I cannot imagine using apps that have issues or bad UI/UX or need workarounds, in addition to the usual issues iOS has - I just want to focus on my projects and get the job done. I have Auria and would definitely use it if they resolve the issues but for now, it seems like a cool app for mastering.
When Apple released their first computer decades ago, it was considered just as a beautiful and very expensive toy because it didn't do much - at all. Quality, beauty, simplicity and ease-of-use were all that mattered to Steve Jobs than functionality. How did that affect their business? People are raving and buying iDevices now that come with NO manual - even a baby can use them right away - even a kitty cat or a puppy dog can use them right away - like they knew how to use them for ages
If we offer these apps to a newbie, which one do we think he will pick up right away and be productive:
Quite the sexist company I’d say.
Cubasis very Nice... GB just has the right features in the right places that make it my goto right now. I hope all the DAWs continue to evolve and thrive
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Opinions galore... nothing wrong with that, would be boring if we were all the same
Having used GarageBand, Auria Pro and Cubasis, my take is that iPads are probably not yet powerful enough to deliver every DAW bell and whistle in a stable and satisfactory manner. At some point they will get there but that’s surely still a few years away. Compromises are therefore inevitable if you want use iOS innplace of a trad DAW. Personally I find Cubasis allows me to compromise in the most effective way (I like how Steinberg only seem to add features or improve granularity as the hardware increases in power - important for stability and user experience) but that’s just me and I am by no means trashing the other options. They work superbly for other folks and that’s awesome (e.g. look at all the quality stuff @theconnactic churns out on Auria Pro) - let’s not forget we are lucky to have choices at all!
If you never noticed it, chances are good it won't be a limitation for you (it isn't for me. For the way I use my sequencers 16PPQ would be enough
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My last cubasis project would have been a lot easier if I'd had mix busses available. Next time I get to the point of composition being complete, I will move audio to Auria for mixing. I wasn't able to do this previously due to having only a 16GB device, now I've got 64GB I can afford to have both apps installed.
Yes for me personally mix busses and groups are essential and one of the reason I much prefer Auria over Cubasis, it's a much more robust and full-featured mixing environment.
If your using multiple AU synths and plugins I think Cubasis works better. I also think for people who like to keep everything "live" and editable Cubasis might be a better fit, although it too will hit the limits of what's possible on iOS pretty quickly. Personally I use GarageBand for the writing stage and Auria for mixing, so Cubasis rarely gets used because I can just use GB for the stuff Cubasis is good at (being a synth host). GB has amazing built-in instruments and touch-based playing surfaces, and can do MIDI just as well (if not better).
Regarding the UI, maybe if you tap the FX button in Auria and are confronted with the Channel Strip it might look intimidating (what do all those buttons do kinda thing) but actually the touch functionality is pretty well thought out IMO: editing audio and shifting things around on the timelime is well designed. Fade-ins, fade outs, crossfades etc is much better in Auria than in Cubasis (in fact Cubasis couldn't cross-fade at all last time I checked). The routing is easier and more obvious in Cubasis though, but more powerful in Auria.
I think it's unsurprising that different apps with different approaches appeal to different people. Both apps have their pros and cons, and their share of bugs.
A> @tja said:
Every app developer should have a link to the pdf manual on their app store page.. I couldn't find a manual for Cubasis myself...
This is the only document pdf I could find. It's not updated for the v2.5.
https://www.steinberg.net/fileadmin/files/PRODUCTS/Apps/Cubasis/Cubasis.pdf
Help manual is found beside the settings.
If you really need to do this you can use this app to record the MIDI in another DAW like Cubasis, but I just export the audio (I'm more of the "commit and move on" mentality than "keep live and tweak forever"):
http://www.appouttime.com/
HJi> @LucidMusicInc said:
Cubasis comes with an in-app help (no internet connection required). Simply tap the corresponding button in the top menu bar.
Additionally, we have an identical Cubasis help online version available on top.
Best,
Lars
@LFS
The beauty of a pdf is that I can print it easily... I'm kinda oldschool.. I like to read on paper instead of an electronic screen
48 PPQ.
The only thing I don't like about Cubasis's workflow is that the process of adding an AU to a MIDI track takes a good few more taps and scrolling than it should do (unless there's a shortcut I'm not aware of). There should be an option in the track routing to select an AU from a list immediately, rather than having to go to the instrument browser (which defaults to the internal instruments) and keep backing out. Unless there is this! In which case, please let me know what to press!
Actually yes this is my only real friction point with Cubasis. If I could wire up an AU quicker I would use it much more.
A tech question: if you use the write button on a mixer channels can you erase what you have automated (in this case volume) and how? Um, I just thought of it... The undo button?
Also, can you use the mix sliders to automate other effects and how? I would prefer that to drawing in the automation. Thanks!
I, too, wish there were a Cubasis manual in PDF form. I have all my manuals in iBooks and like to read them from cover to cover. As others mentioned, find can be done in pdfs which can be helpful. I have been wishing there were one for Cubasis which I enjoy.
Best,
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GB on iOS cannot export MIDI yet. But I think you can export the project, open it up in GB/Logic on desktop and then export its MIDI.
Can desktop GB export stems?
Yes, it can, in a very tedious manner: you solo each track and “share” it as “uncompressed” into Auria, Cubasis etc.
Oops, you were talking about Desktop GB. Sorry. My bad. I don’t know the answer...
Hi,
Cubasis comes with a full automation editor, allowing you to write new or edit existing automation data. Of course, here you can also easily delete existing automation data.
In this regard, you might want to take a look at the available Cubasis automation tutorial as well.
Best,
Lars
GB on Mac cannot export MIDI but Logic can. Or you could use GB2MIDI:
https://www.google.com/search?q=garageband+mac+export+midi
https://www.google.com/search?q=garageband+mac+export+stem
https://www.google.com/search?q=gb2midi
If you join/glue the regions on a track, you can extract stems this way using Finder:
I think Auria May have been a bit too “professional”
Lol are you kidding me isnt that the dream gal I love Auria for making songs but I also Love Cubasis for making tracks to different beast that can do the same things
@espiegel123
https://www.midi.org/forum/726-can-someone-help-me-export-a-garageband-midi-track,-please
Nice tune! Great work!