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I chickened out of replacing the internal drive, so kept that in for ‘office/work’ stuff. I bought a 500gb SSD for £100, a £6 plastic case for it and just plug it in via USB when I want to use it.
I put the OS on it, and my music stuff (Reason, Komplete etc.), and just boot from it when I want to use it. It’s ten times faster than the internal drive, feels like a new laptop. I’m going to get another drive at some point and keep that for graphic stuff.
I guess that too.
That's a pretty good way to manage things, still got all my graphics software on my main music os, never use it though, started out as a graphics partition and a way to test new osx releases, when I got logic pro x, had to say goodbye to snow leopard, still my fav version of osx
Wish I’d done it ages ago, but mistakenly thought USB would be a lot slower than fitting one internally. It’s a tiny bit slower, but since it’s ten times faster than the old drive it doesn’t matter. Only issue is I get CPU warnings when I push Reason, so I bounce a lot of tracks to audio. I’ve got Logic on the old drive.
Can’t you download older versions of OSX? The friend who set this up for me hasn’t put the latest version on.
I've got snow leopard on a dvd but logic pro x doesn't support it, only reason I'm on sierra is for logic, got all the different versions in my itunes not including high sierra, snowy was fast and lean, think apple has a thing in place where you can't run older os's than the one that was around when the hardware came out, although I could be mistaken.
You pussies are complaining about the prices – I still painfully remember buying my first Mac IIsi!
What was the bill for that? A kidney? Or you provided your virginity in exchange?
Good point. I remember the studio I worked in 20 odd years ago shelling out 5k for a trinitron monitor the size of a small horse, with a screen the size of a medium chicken.
I just did the same thing but balled out on a 1tb Samsung T5. I already had SSD internal but is only 256. Loving it so far, no regerts. Usb3 with the ssd is plenty fast enough.
In a certain wat you’re right. If you can miss the money or need one for your wrok or study, why not buy one?
I have a 13 inch MacBook Pro 2014. I did plan to buy a new one in about 3 years. If I buy a new one it will be the 15 inch model.
It's definitely a love or hate thing on the newer MBPs. I'll admit, it's the least favorite part of my 2017 MBP. For me, the biggest issue was just how noisy it was compared to the previous models. Like, 3-4 times louder, though I admit I'm definitely a heavy handed typer. Plus they seem to be prone to failure, which is something I just went through on mine when it would randomly start triggering things on the TouchBar (FWIW I actually really like the TouchBar on apps that support it well).
Took my laptop to the Apple store, the Genius barely even checked it himself just said they would fix it for me asap, no charge. When I got it back a few weeks ago, the new keyboard they installed felt more robust and was definitely a decent bit quieter from my original one. I thought it was odd since the floor model MBPs still felt a bit clacky compared to mine, but now I'm guessing they've been swapping out older ones that come in to be replaced for the newer style on the current MBP. Just a guess.
I see it has also bluetooth 5.0. Did the 2017 version already had v5.0?
And neither horses nor chickens have gotten any cheaper.
And you could always add one of these if you are doing graphics intensive work:
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicegpu/
Ah right, sounds a bit worrying.
And don't get me started on the cost of sheep here...
Blimey, that's good. I could use that for my ageing PC which throws up the occasional graphics card error.
Pricey mind.
Handy site for that kind of external GPU's: https://egpu.io/macos-external-gpu-review/
And those new MacBooks need a refrigerator to work properly
Hopefully, since the specs don’t meet the real ones (heavy throttling) ,people can issue for refund .
Still waiting Apple official announcement.
Too many sources to link . Just google “ mac pro throttling “.
Don’t get me wrong, I am not an Apple hater (don’t shoot the messenger ...)
Throttling is not an exclusive Apple trademark. You simply can't use desktop CPU's within the narrow cases of laptops and expecting the same benchmarks. The heat has to go somewhere. To my knowledge there is not a single laptop with uses these kinds op CPU's which doesn't throttle.
Yes and also iPads suffer from it under heavy load but the problem is that others offer better cooling and at least the cpu reach the normal speed.
The i9 def. belongs not in a slim macbook pro.
Apple deserves all the rant on this.
Crappy keyboard, bad thermals....all mainly due to the stupid making everything thinner.
Cook and Ive just please shareholders!!
To be fair the throttling issues come from using Adobe software which is known for terrible optimization on Apple hardware and depends on the GPU more than CPU. Once the GPU heats up then the CPU throttles because the whole Mac is hot. Adobe software caters to Nvidia graphics
Yeah I have a 2017. Bloody noisy keyboard.
I've also experienced some 'sticking' on side of the spacebar. Think I'll take a trip to the store to see what they can do. A newer quieter keyboard would be welcome!
If you really want to do heavy CPU-tasks you should buy an external Thunderbolt 3 dock with the GPU's of your choice or stay with a desktop.
Big companies do it different, they use cloud computing by companies like Rescale to do their CPU intensive tasks. Much cheaper for them. Boeing did save about $80 million that way.
Roland is not so lame as it seems with their cloud. They earn money with it and give their users more power than they would possibly get by themselves.
The new Butterfly 3 keyboard is not that bad it seems. The only way iFixit could malfunction it is by lots of sand throwing at it.
Nope , happens on every multithreaded app using all cores . And its very noticeable, not expected at that price range . Sure it’s thin but for the price I though Apple used some exotic way for cooling it .
Intel doesn‘t came fast enough with smaller cpu and Apple just put the 6 core in an 3 year old chassis.
The 2.2 Ghz i7 with 32 GB RAM might be the best choice. At least that what i would choose now.
Form over function!
Why must it get so slim. The 2015 macbook pro (and my current 2013) had a much better keyboard and more room while still beeing small enough for a 15“ notebook. Pro is really just a marketing gag for Apple.
Whatever, they will loose a lot sales from people but sadly not enough to change something.
So i wait for the next one and see if they make it even worse. I still sometimes think it‘s planned to get people try to replace their macbooks with iPads (which doesn‘t work)
2799 euros in Europe. For this price, I can buy a decent laptop for work, a good gaming desktop and a big TV to play my games on. As I move to Japan in feb, I think I will do just that instead.
True....but sadly i´m bound to Logic Pro X now.
However, they were always expensive and mostly it´s the SSD upgrades which people raving about (as if there would be no choice to not buy the 4TB option).
The problem is the new macbooks are really bad and the best example of form over function in any way.
They are mainly consumer ans lifestyle products like iPhones and iPads.
IPads and iPhones are not cheap either (maybe even worse for what you get).
At the end it´s the customers choice if they can go on with this.
As long as they still update Logic i will stay with mac. Not sure how long that will be.
Yeah I can understand that. For music, I rely exclusively on ipad so I can just upgrade my gear when ipad pros are getting better.
iPad's not cheap? Look at that 2018 model and look at all the apps you can buy for a little amount of money for it. Then it becomes a cheap way of using a computer.
I've been running into problems with my 2011 mbp throttling in all the summer heat, was making it hard to get things done in logic, as only a few of my thirsty plugs would nail the cpu. Ended up with one of the plastic cooler pad contraptions, just testing it out this morning and it's made a slight deference, on a track I was having problems with.
The new i9 tho, looks like it throttles the cpu back to extremes, kind of negates going with that option when the base 15" runs faster under load. In one test it got better performance when the i9 was limited to using 4-cores, with an app that comes with x-code, get the feeling apple will release an update with the fans kicking in earlier and scaling back the turbo function (maybe reducing core count) to alleviate some of the heat. This all makes me think the arm rumours might have more weight, they should of used a redesigned fan for the bto i9 option.