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  • @MonzoPro said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    I've got Motherlode V1 - I presume I can't bypass V2 and go straight to the V3 upgrade?

    There was an upgrade available at release of those which was cheaper, from v1 - v2 and then again from v2-v3 so it is possible Motherlode 3 contains everything.

    Would be worth asking over on the Yonac forum.

    Cheers Andy, I'll have a dig around later.

    @Dawdles said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @zeroG said:

    @Dawdles said:
    Hoping for ToneStack AU too. But if they decide to charge customers for buying Motherload bundles or individual add-ons all over again etc then it’s total boycott time. Happy to pay an IAP for new AU functionality or even buy a new version of the core app that carries over info of my previous bundles IAP, but no way that it would be justified to also make customers pay for previous IAP for all those pedals and amps all over again too. AU is meant to be an advancement in iOS functionality, not an insane Cash Cow for devs to use to get paid twice for the same r&d. Hoping they do the honourable thing and just charge for the AU aspect...

    I agree, but that could be wishful thinking. Look what happened when Yonac Galileo went AUv3 - brand new app with a brand new (higher) price tag. Consider also that when Fabfilter recently introduced AUv3 support for Pro-Q2 you had to rebuy the app even if you had bought it in Auria. Anyway, let’s see what they do. I too have a significant investment in TS + Motherloads so I would love it if Yonac tipped their hats to the Yonac faithful

    I'd happily pay for the AUv3, however I'd like to be able to transfer my existing Motherlode v3 and not have to purchase that again.

    +1. Paying for AU upgrade or new version no problem. Paying for EVERYTHING again....no chance ;)

    Yeah, this paying for everything all over again thing that seems to be becoming popular is getting a bit scary, considering how much I've spent on this stuff already. I cannot afford to buy it all again, and then again, and then again...

    I do have the Motherload 3, and only this one. Motherload 1 and 2 still show up as purchasable, thus: you can buy them seperately in whatever order, but they contain different pedals...

  • @animal said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    I've got Motherlode V1 - I presume I can't bypass V2 and go straight to the V3 upgrade?

    There was an upgrade available at release of those which was cheaper, from v1 - v2 and then again from v2-v3 so it is possible Motherlode 3 contains everything.

    Would be worth asking over on the Yonac forum.

    Cheers Andy, I'll have a dig around later.

    @Dawdles said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @zeroG said:

    @Dawdles said:
    Hoping for ToneStack AU too. But if they decide to charge customers for buying Motherload bundles or individual add-ons all over again etc then it’s total boycott time. Happy to pay an IAP for new AU functionality or even buy a new version of the core app that carries over info of my previous bundles IAP, but no way that it would be justified to also make customers pay for previous IAP for all those pedals and amps all over again too. AU is meant to be an advancement in iOS functionality, not an insane Cash Cow for devs to use to get paid twice for the same r&d. Hoping they do the honourable thing and just charge for the AU aspect...

    I agree, but that could be wishful thinking. Look what happened when Yonac Galileo went AUv3 - brand new app with a brand new (higher) price tag. Consider also that when Fabfilter recently introduced AUv3 support for Pro-Q2 you had to rebuy the app even if you had bought it in Auria. Anyway, let’s see what they do. I too have a significant investment in TS + Motherloads so I would love it if Yonac tipped their hats to the Yonac faithful

    I'd happily pay for the AUv3, however I'd like to be able to transfer my existing Motherlode v3 and not have to purchase that again.

    +1. Paying for AU upgrade or new version no problem. Paying for EVERYTHING again....no chance ;)

    Yeah, this paying for everything all over again thing that seems to be becoming popular is getting a bit scary, considering how much I've spent on this stuff already. I cannot afford to buy it all again, and then again, and then again...

    I do have the Motherload 3, and only this one. Motherload 1 and 2 still show up as purchasable, thus: you can buy them seperately in whatever order, but they contain different pedals...

    Ah great cheers, I'll look and see what it includes.

  • @AndyPlankton said:
    This is also very true, now to start dreaming about what might be in a v4 Motherlode, Motherlode 3 seems pretty complete to me. I have some spare plastic tubing if they want to make a real Talkbox :D

    If they could figure out how to make that work or even emulate it I would buy it in a heartbeat. It is the one sound that seems to be missing from all the motherlode pedals.

  • @Dawdles said:
    Hoping for ToneStack AU too. But if they decide to charge customers for buying Motherload bundles or individual add-ons all over again etc then it’s total boycott time. Happy to pay an IAP for new AU functionality or even buy a new version of the core app that carries over info of my previous bundles IAP.

    Mmmm, don’t know man. How much money are we talking here? £15 for the app and another £10 for the motherload on sale? It’s got to be worth it. I don’t even know if there is a way to give a discount to existing customers with a new app.

    TBH it would make most sense to release modules separately. How many instances of ToneStack might one need? Unless you’re in a shredding orchestra I don’t see much sense. Releasing them separately will be halluva job but might be worth it for them financially. Time will tell, water will flow.

  • @supadom said:

    @Dawdles said:
    Hoping for ToneStack AU too. But if they decide to charge customers for buying Motherload bundles or individual add-ons all over again etc then it’s total boycott time. Happy to pay an IAP for new AU functionality or even buy a new version of the core app that carries over info of my previous bundles IAP.

    Mmmm, don’t know man. How much money are we talking here? £15 for the app and another £10 for the motherload on sale? It’s got to be worth it. I don’t even know if there is a way to give a discount to existing customers with a new app.

    TBH it would make most sense to release modules separately. How many instances of ToneStack might one need? Unless you’re in a shredding orchestra I don’t see much sense. Releasing them separately will be halluva job but might be worth it for them financially. Time will tell, water will flow.

    In an AUv3 world individual modules may make more sense in some ways but that would take away from Tonestack's identity as an app perhaps ?

    How they are going to fit all that into an AUv3 I don't know...perhaps the AUv3 will be an additional IAP for the main app that allows you to use 'stacks' built in the main app as an Auv3 in a host, kind of like a light player version like we have seen done with some other apps.
    That would make this sale an opportunity for more people to get the app ahead of it's release, and actually make this sale a way of them having a larger customer base for the AUv3 IAP as opposed to it being a way of shifting as many as they can before it becomes outdated by a newer version.
    To me this makes far more commercial sense in the long run.

  • @supadom said:
    ....... I don’t even know if there is a way to give a discount to existing customers with a new app.

    TBH it would make most sense to release modules separately. How many instances of ToneStack might one need? Unless you’re in a shredding orchestra I don’t see much sense. Releasing them separately will be halluva job but might be worth it for them financially. Time will tell, water will flow.

    With bundle option on the store there is finally a way for the dev to give discount for loyal customers , although the whole IAP thing might complicate things .

    I agree that we may not need many ToneStack instances , but (at least me) when talking ToneStack as AU ,I expect separate modules , not the app itself. (Amp , mod , cab ,reverb, echo modules heaven ready to be used in other hosts :) )

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    For me it’s showing $25 for Motherload 1, and $10 each for 2 & 3 = $45.

    Sometimes I Feel Like A Motherloadless Child.

  • edited July 2018

    @Dawdles said:

    @supadom said:

    @Dawdles said:
    Hoping for ToneStack AU too. But if they decide to charge customers for buying Motherload bundles or individual add-ons all over again etc then it’s total boycott time. Happy to pay an IAP for new AU functionality or even buy a new version of the core app that carries over info of my previous bundles IAP.

    Mmmm, don’t know man. How much money are we talking here? £15 for the app and another £10 for the motherload on sale? It’s got to be worth it. I don’t even know if there is a way to give a discount to existing customers with a new app.

    TBH it would make most sense to release modules separately. How many instances of ToneStack might one need? Unless you’re in a shredding orchestra I don’t see much sense. Releasing them separately will be halluva job but might be worth it for them financially. Time will tell, water will flow.

    To me It’s not really about how much the thing costs, its just on principle that I already paid for something and AU functionality shouldn’t equal paying for the whole thing again like I’m one of the totally new customers. All the conceptual work, r&d, initial marketing, fx algos, gui, etc etc....that’s the app and I already paid for it....Happy to pay an AU upgrade cost in one form or another (in spite of devs like Beep Street not seeing it as the ‘right’ approach....free Sunrizer AU update...) even though it’s in the devs best interest for new sales to make it au anyway or it’ll soon be totally redundant. But no way I’ll pay for the same app PLUS all the IAP. Look at stuff like VCV rack and the way that all the 3rd party devs update their modules every time that VcV rack gets updated. And that’s for $0.... ToneStack already had my money, I’ll only pay for new features/new functionality....

    Re the modules approach. To me the ToneStack USP is making Multifx chains within one GUi....imho they’d be a little crazy to totally bail on that. Not sure that the quality is really there per effect if compared against other dedicated individual fx plugins?

    Again, whatever is the developer’s approach I will be buying it because I like it and need it. The price makes my decision so much easier and I can buy myself a bargain of a feeling of supporting the dev with their future endeavours.

    I’ve been using it as my main guitar/bass effect for the last 3 years and I feel I’ve definitely paid little for the mileage I got from it. If it came in a hardware format I wouldn’t hesitate to splash £300 on it but I guess that’s another conversation altogether, hardware vs software manufacturing costs etc. I’m sure IAA won’t get pulled for a while yet so I guess no reason to worry too much either way.

    I will buy it because I have the impression that AU is slightly more ram/cpu friendly and stable than IAA but that might just be psychological. I wonder I anyone has done any A/B comparing.

    @Lady_App_titude I can't remember exactly how much I’ve paid but wouldn’t be more than £25 total as I got it all at intro/sale prices.

  • @Dawdles said:
    Tonebridge is actually really useful for a freebie. Made my favourite iOS tape warble effect in it. Some decent other chains too. But it’s really static in AU, zero tweakability to fine tune, doesn’t even have wet/dry etc...

    Can you share that tape warble preset in Tonebridge?

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  • @Dawdles said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Dawdles said:
    Tonebridge is actually really useful for a freebie. Made my favourite iOS tape warble effect in it. Some decent other chains too. But it’s really static in AU, zero tweakability to fine tune, doesn’t even have wet/dry etc...

    Can you share that tape warble preset in Tonebridge?

    Yeah no problem :) From memory it’s (possibly multiple..) instances of the nice vibrato pedal that’s modelled on a Boss pedal that I forget the name of (possibly with various rate and depth per instance) and some heavy compression and maybe a little distortion from Another pedal. Much vibier than the warble on Dawcassette. I made a couple of alternate versions, one with just the warble, for when I use dawcassette for the comp/saturation aspects, which is often :) its a better warble than dawcassette and and then I can also adjust the wet/dry in dawcassette if I want, without the phasing that happens if use wet/dry in dawcassette while also using the built in warble ;) I’ll dig out the patches when I’m next on my iPad and post link :)

    That would be very helpful. I love a good warble. :-)

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  • edited July 2018

    @Dawdles said:

    @supadom said:

    @Dawdles said:

    @supadom said:

    @Dawdles said:
    Hoping for ToneStack AU too. But if they decide to charge customers for buying Motherload bundles or individual add-ons all over again etc then it’s total boycott time. Happy to pay an IAP for new AU functionality or even buy a new version of the core app that carries over info of my previous bundles IAP.

    Mmmm, don’t know man. How much money are we talking here? £15 for the app and another £10 for the motherload on sale? It’s got to be worth it. I don’t even know if there is a way to give a discount to existing customers with a new app.

    TBH it would make most sense to release modules separately. How many instances of ToneStack might one need? Unless you’re in a shredding orchestra I don’t see much sense. Releasing them separately will be halluva job but might be worth it for them financially. Time will tell, water will flow.

    To me It’s not really about how much the thing costs, its just on principle that I already paid for something and AU functionality shouldn’t equal paying for the whole thing again like I’m one of the totally new customers. All the conceptual work, r&d, initial marketing, fx algos, gui, etc etc....that’s the app and I already paid for it....Happy to pay an AU upgrade cost in one form or another (in spite of devs like Beep Street not seeing it as the ‘right’ approach....free Sunrizer AU update...) even though it’s in the devs best interest for new sales to make it au anyway or it’ll soon be totally redundant. But no way I’ll pay for the same app PLUS all the IAP. Look at stuff like VCV rack and the way that all the 3rd party devs update their modules every time that VcV rack gets updated. And that’s for $0.... ToneStack already had my money, I’ll only pay for new features/new functionality....

    Re the modules approach. To me the ToneStack USP is making Multifx chains within one GUi....imho they’d be a little crazy to totally bail on that. Not sure that the quality is really there per effect if compared against other dedicated individual fx plugins?

    Again, whatever is the developer’s approach I will be buying it because I like it and need it. The price makes my decision so much easier and I can buy myself a bargain of a feeling of supporting the dev with their future endeavours.

    I’ve been using it as my main guitar/bass effect for the last 3 years and I feel I’ve definitely paid little for the mileage I got from it. If it came in a hardware format I wouldn’t hesitate to splash £300 on it but I guess that’s another conversation altogether, hardware vs software manufacturing costs etc. I’m sure IAA won’t get pulled for a while yet so I guess no reason to worry too much either way.

    I will buy it because I have the impression that AU is slightly more ram/cpu friendly and stable than IAA but that might just be psychological. I wonder I anyone has done any A/B comparing.

    @Lady_App_titude I can't remember exactly how much I’ve paid but wouldn’t be more than £25 total as I got it all at intro/sale prices.

    Dunno man, to me the fx are probably around on par with one of the little zoom multi-fx pedals that only cost like £70 but that’s totally subjective. They’re definitly useable in any case tho and not bad sounding.

    Funny you should say that. I bought Zoom ms 50 about a year ago because I wanted to take off some load off my old air 2 to use vocal effects instead. Well, the amp sims on that thing are absolutely ridiculous (in a bad way). The spring reverb ain’t that springy and echorex wow, to me it sounds better than any tape delay emulation I’ve tried. Then stuff like blue fur distortion or octaver just sounds way too muddy on those multieffect stompboxes, especially when a few effects get layered on top of each other.

    I love my clean or slightly distorted sound when playing through an amp and feel I’m riding a top class emulation when playing through tone stack. (Tangent)

    To me there’s also a call for using software guitar effects because it automatically syncs the tempo to the rest of the groove going on, no tapping required. Again, another conversation. (Tangent)

    In the end we all have our individual priorities and could go on all night on what we do and don’t like. If we took out all of the opinionated convos on this forum Michael could downgrade server size in a bleep. (Tangent)

    It’s raining in Oxford, first time in a month or so. The world’s turned upside down! Time to make some music. B)

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  • @Dawdles said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Dawdles said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Dawdles said:
    Tonebridge is actually really useful for a freebie. Made my favourite iOS tape warble effect in it. Some decent other chains too. But it’s really static in AU, zero tweakability to fine tune, doesn’t even have wet/dry etc...

    Can you share that tape warble preset in Tonebridge?

    Yeah no problem :) From memory it’s (possibly multiple..) instances of the nice vibrato pedal that’s modelled on a Boss pedal that I forget the name of (possibly with various rate and depth per instance) and some heavy compression and maybe a little distortion from Another pedal. Much vibier than the warble on Dawcassette. I made a couple of alternate versions, one with just the warble, for when I use dawcassette for the comp/saturation aspects, which is often :) its a better warble than dawcassette and and then I can also adjust the wet/dry in dawcassette if I want, without the phasing that happens if use wet/dry in dawcassette while also using the built in warble ;) I’ll dig out the patches when I’m next on my iPad and post link :)

    That would be very helpful. I love a good warble. :-)

    If you have the app you should have a quick try at chaining one to taste, only took about 5 minutes IIRC and I was surprised how nice the vibrato pedal algo was and use the patch constantly ;) I’m a big zvex lofi junky fan so that’s what I was aiming for with the patches ;)

    I also made some big shoegaze style ‘reverb + delays through amps’ for fx sends in beatmaker 3, they turned out really nice for washed out gritty ambient. Sucks you can’t tweak params in AU but if you make a few variations they’re surprisingly useable even just as ‘set and forget’...

    I’ll post the warble ASAP either way :)

    You use the vibrango pedal?

  • @supadom said:

    @Dawdles said:

    @supadom said:

    @Dawdles said:

    @supadom said:

    @Dawdles said:
    Hoping for ToneStack AU too. But if they decide to charge customers for buying Motherload bundles or individual add-ons all over again etc then it’s total boycott time. Happy to pay an IAP for new AU functionality or even buy a new version of the core app that carries over info of my previous bundles IAP.

    Mmmm, don’t know man. How much money are we talking here? £15 for the app and another £10 for the motherload on sale? It’s got to be worth it. I don’t even know if there is a way to give a discount to existing customers with a new app.

    TBH it would make most sense to release modules separately. How many instances of ToneStack might one need? Unless you’re in a shredding orchestra I don’t see much sense. Releasing them separately will be halluva job but might be worth it for them financially. Time will tell, water will flow.

    To me It’s not really about how much the thing costs, its just on principle that I already paid for something and AU functionality shouldn’t equal paying for the whole thing again like I’m one of the totally new customers. All the conceptual work, r&d, initial marketing, fx algos, gui, etc etc....that’s the app and I already paid for it....Happy to pay an AU upgrade cost in one form or another (in spite of devs like Beep Street not seeing it as the ‘right’ approach....free Sunrizer AU update...) even though it’s in the devs best interest for new sales to make it au anyway or it’ll soon be totally redundant. But no way I’ll pay for the same app PLUS all the IAP. Look at stuff like VCV rack and the way that all the 3rd party devs update their modules every time that VcV rack gets updated. And that’s for $0.... ToneStack already had my money, I’ll only pay for new features/new functionality....

    Re the modules approach. To me the ToneStack USP is making Multifx chains within one GUi....imho they’d be a little crazy to totally bail on that. Not sure that the quality is really there per effect if compared against other dedicated individual fx plugins?

    Again, whatever is the developer’s approach I will be buying it because I like it and need it. The price makes my decision so much easier and I can buy myself a bargain of a feeling of supporting the dev with their future endeavours.

    I’ve been using it as my main guitar/bass effect for the last 3 years and I feel I’ve definitely paid little for the mileage I got from it. If it came in a hardware format I wouldn’t hesitate to splash £300 on it but I guess that’s another conversation altogether, hardware vs software manufacturing costs etc. I’m sure IAA won’t get pulled for a while yet so I guess no reason to worry too much either way.

    I will buy it because I have the impression that AU is slightly more ram/cpu friendly and stable than IAA but that might just be psychological. I wonder I anyone has done any A/B comparing.

    @Lady_App_titude I can't remember exactly how much I’ve paid but wouldn’t be more than £25 total as I got it all at intro/sale prices.

    Dunno man, to me the fx are probably around on par with one of the little zoom multi-fx pedals that only cost like £70 but that’s totally subjective. They’re definitly useable in any case tho and not bad sounding.

    Funny you should say that. I bought Zoom ms 50 about a year ago because I wanted to take off some load off my old air 2 to use vocal effects instead. Well, the amp sims on that thing are absolutely ridiculous (in a bad way). The spring reverb ain’t that springy and echorex wow, to me it sounds better than any tape delay emulation I’ve tried. Then stuff like blue fur distortion or octaver just sounds way too muddy on those multieffect stompboxes, especially when a few effects get layered on top of each other.

    I love my clean or slightly distorted sound when playing through an amp and feel I’m riding a top class emulation when playing through tone stack. (Tangent)

    To me there’s also a call for using software guitar effects because it automatically syncs the tempo to the rest of the groove going on, no tapping required. Again, another conversation. (Tangent)

    Funnily enough I’ve been watching demos of the Zoom multi-fx boxes, mostly for bass. I also have a Boss multi-fx box for guitar.

    The ones I’ve looked at don’t come close sound-wise, to what you can get with iOS. Only thing is I don’t fancy risking (or trusting) my Air 2 on a stage full of hairy, usually slightly pissed rockers.

  • @MonzoPro said:
    The ones I’ve looked at don’t come close sound-wise, to what you can get with iOS. Only thing is I don’t fancy risking (or trusting) my Air 2 on a stage full of hairy, usually slightly pissed rockers.

    iPhone + otter box defender.

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    @wim said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    The ones I’ve looked at don’t come close sound-wise, to what you can get with iOS. Only thing is I don’t fancy risking (or trusting) my Air 2 on a stage full of hairy, usually slightly pissed rockers.

    iPhone + otter box defender.

    Yeah that makes sense. My worry is the headphone jack too. Took it to rehearsal at a club last weekend, to trigger a few intros, and the sound guy wrestling and swapping leads and knocking it over a couple of times gave me the terrors.

    Might be less of an issue with the phone (I’ve got an Otterbox on that, though the jack hole is too tight for leads), as we could mount that somewhere safe.

    Thing with fx though is you need to stomp on them and twiddle knobs occasionally. I realise you can get midi pedals, but just adds another thing to the chain that might go wrong.

    I have made a very lovely Syd Telecaster patch in ToneStack though.

  • I've never known how to set up all my pedals in Tonestack, in what order that is. I found the following video useful:

  • Anyone knows what bundle to purchase to have all effects in Tonestack? Which bundle cotnains all of them?

  • @MAtrixplan said:
    Anyone knows what bundle to purchase to have all effects in Tonestack? Which bundle cotnains all of them?

    Motherload 3.0.

    To everyone else, this is an old post dredged up from 2018. Tonestack may or may not be on sale as the title says.

  • @fprintf said:

    @MAtrixplan said:
    Anyone knows what bundle to purchase to have all effects in Tonestack? Which bundle cotnains all of them?

    Motherload 3.0.

    To everyone else, this is an old post dredged up from 2018. Tonestack may or may not be on sale as the title says.

    it is on sale now, but I'm afraid that the Motherload 3.0. is only upgrade to previous bundles and with v3 I don't get previous effects from v1 and v2 - can You confirm?

  • @MAtrixplan said:
    it is on sale now, but I'm afraid that the Motherload 3.0. is only upgrade to previous bundles and with v3 I don't get previous effects from v1 and v2 - can You confirm?

    I think you are right. I've been buying the Motherload all along so for me the upgrade path was 1.0 -> 2.0 -> 3.0. It doesn't look like you can jump right from being a new user to Motherload 3.0 as far as I can tell without buying the other two first.

  • @MAtrixplan

    Complete Tonestack

    Tonestack app
    Motherload v.1.0
    Expansion v.2.0
    Expansion v.3.0

    You'll then have EVERYTHING available at this time.

  • @royor said:
    @MAtrixplan

    Complete Tonestack

    Tonestack app
    Motherload v.1.0
    Expansion v.2.0
    Expansion v.3.0

    You'll then have EVERYTHING available at this time.

    Total price at this time?

  • edited December 2019

    @Charlesalbert These prices are from previous sales. I imagine they're the same right now.

    Sale Prices:
    Tonestack app - $4.99
    Motherload v.1.0 - $24.99
    Expansion v.2.0 - $9.99
    Expansion v.3.0 - $9.99

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