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If you go back to the 1940s and 50s (and earlier), popular music was all about melody. The song writers of Tin Pan Alley used to play their songs to the elderly doormen of their buildings, to see which stuck in their heads enough that they could whistle the tune - hence “The Old Grey Whistle Test”. Since then I think that “tunes” have become less and less important in popular music, replaced by riffs, sounds (particularly when synths started to enter the mainstream) and more latterly “beats”. Most music today seem to originate with a beat rather than with a tune. Maybe at some stage, people will crave tunes again and the world will go full circle. I personally think that would be a good thing - I find a lot of today’s popular music repetitive, derivative and dull, but a good tune will always have appeal.
If you use the more colloquial GET ORRRFFF MY LAWN! then there is scope for at least 2 notes rather than one on the ORRRFFF !
Music tends to evolve as the times change. Now we are in the post prosperous, terror times. Fear rules. Anger rules. Anxiety rules. It's really a shit time in the world (even though our individual lives may not be terrible we are witnessing these things). I think music and art are reflections of the times we live - does this seem obvious?
So, to me it all makes sense what we are hearing, not just in popular music but beyond that too. There is an ugliness in western music now. There is also beauty in ugliness but also an obviousness to the expression. Anger, fear and anxiety are pretty evident emotions.
I'm postulating (i guess) that maybe the "collective mood" is more into more obvious expressions in art or culture or pop culture than beauty and reflection.
I tell my kids that great art often comes out of terrible times. I'm waiting . . . still hearing alot of Hey Hey, Ho Ho! chants . . .
Asians got melodies
BTS - Butterfly
Look at the history of both sides. Europe has a musical history that comes from classical, folklore, medieval etc. Its based on classical instruments and composers. The US history (beside the natives) of music is not as long, but people of all nations came to build up the country, and along came their instruments. There was slavery, and the natives from Africa song their slave songs, evolved to blues and finally rock & roll. Immigrants from Europe brought their folk music. Poverty, slavery and the mix of cultures were a recipe for inventive music, for example, Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk, disco, jazz. I also think their music is more rhythmic (african, cuban etc) than European. The electronic styles of music in europe has more background from, i think, art, culture and engineering, and also from the US.
In general, melodic wise, and thats my opinion:
From Europe: Compositional, Minimalist, Cultural background.
From US: Inventivion, Oppression, Culture mix, rhythm.
With the upcoming of modern media (television, internet etc.), bounderies are vanishing.
@Dawdles. Must agree. I have changed my position on the dearth of melody. You just have to look for it a little harder as it is not reflected in global megaculture . And yes, the world has always been an ugly place. Must be else there's no polarity, no yin yang, no good evil, no vanilla chocolate. As our 21st century Everyman' guru, Eckhart Tolle says, if the sky is all blue there is no blue.
Let us move the frets on the Sitar... 🎶
I'm well aware of shruti. I love Indian classical music, but their music theory is useless nonsense. At best it only vaguely and imperfectly describes what they actually play. At worst, it's religious speculation with no empirical basis. If you asked an accomplished Indian musician to sing each of the alleged 22 notes and checked it against a frequency counter, I doubt you would find even one of them who could accurately reproduce it the same way three times in a row.
Listen to what they do, not what they say they do. In the classical ragas of northern India, there are not 22 notes. There are five to seven notes in each raga, with variable tunings depending on the raga and the whims and skill of the individual musician.
I totally agree. I've been studying with the Gundecha brothers, taking weekly dhrupad lessons and learning how to sing ragas for the past year-and-a-half. The notes are not actually detuned, though, unlike the middle Eastern musics. The Indian notes are always related to the overtone series via the tanpura drone, although sometimes you might bend or oscillate them for an effect.
This Bobby McFerrin Improvisation was really amazing and full of good vibes!
I’ve never seen before. Thanks a lot for this wonderful video! Love it! 👍
This is music gave me the inspiration to make my own music. First time I heard it 1974 and I still enjoy these wonderful melodies. I think I’ve heard this wonderful record more than hundred times in my live and I felt never boring. I still enjoy every single note of this beautiful music! 🎶
I can really say that’s the record of my live! 👍 i❤️It!
@CracklePot wrote: "Love it or hate it, you cannot deny it’s raw power and primitive appeal."
I disagree. There are plenty of people that find dubstep lacking in power or appeal. I am skeptical about there being any musical style that has universal undeniable power with the possible exception (and I emphasize the word possible) of some percussion music.
Sure, but I would bet these people listen to electronic music.
I am talking about people with no exposure to the insanity of Dudstep.
Which is probably not many, these days.
Agree, the only development is that music is getting louder, less harmonic and the millenial whoop trick
I short every producer knows the tricks and everybody copies everybody to produce hit records
@MobileMusic Western electronic music has it's roots in European dominant white male culture. Which imo has everything to do with that early electronic music was heavily funded in Europe. Although not a fan of Boyd Rice's worldview he has a good point when he says that electronic music is rooted in white culture especially when we talk about soundart and abstract ambient electronic music. However I think that a lot of black people made electronic stuff in music more accessable. Though I think Moroder's "I feel love" was the breaktrhough of electronic music for the masses. Ironical enough we had a black singer (Donna Summer) that did the vocals of this track.
I'm out of touch with contemporary American pop music at this point. Seems like everything I listen to is fringe in some way. But some lovely melodious work I've heard recently.
Released 2017, though obviously recorded earlier than that (Alice had already been dead for a while) - a fusion of Hindi (or Sanskrit?) lyrics and Detroit gospel harmony that really appeals to me:
Released 2018, as part of a soundtrack - the stripped down arrangement of guitar and vocals w/o FX really makes it stand out:
Released 2018, same soundtrack - not as stripped down and I normally don't like country that much, but I like it:
Released 2012 I think - almost as stripped down arrangement and mix as the other track, which I guess also makes this a standout:
Maybe Americans will be someday inspired to make more songs with strong melodies via the influence of anime
We should always go back and ask father Bach about such questions. After all, he made us play in all keys, cemented major and minor harmonies (the modals came back with @LinearLineman , thank god) and thought us counterpoint.
It is not enough place for my whole proof here, I’ve just scribbled this in the margin (Fermat)
Just want to remember that there is NO such thing as "better" or "worse" music... it's all about subjective perceptions which are formed by music which we listen for our whole lives... What is pure perfection for one, is boring crap for other...
Case in point - Bach. I love his compositions and attempting to play bits of them, but I know musos who think his stuff is boring.
Most melodic are juzz, guys
Everytime I hear it, I want to take a glass of cognac, a cigar and discuss women
This song was released in 2019. It has both a nice hook - sax/accordion (I think) - and a nice vocal melody.