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  • @Samu said:

    @AudioGus said:

    Hehe, I am getting to a point where I don’t want the fun of new app exploration anymore and just want the fun of making music. At least now I am distracted more by updates now than apps in development so...getting close...?

    Same here. Cubasis, Gadget (with IAPs and companion apps) & BM3 and a whole bunch of AUv3's cover a lot of ground and I do have Renoise & Logic Pro X to 'fall back on' when needed...

    Even with it's limitations and quirks I do like Garageband and I do hope we'll see an update to it once iOS12 is out.

    One of these days I just need to jump into Garageband cold, for Garageband sakes. Whenever I go in with a goal for a task one of the quirks just smacks me cold and says 'now why you want to do that?'

  • I just don't see Apple forcing all apps to go subscription. Most apps simply will not sell that way. If Apple thought people were so desperate and ready to cough up subscription money for everything they want and use, they'd already be renting out GarageBand instead of giving it away for free, as well as many of their other free offerings. Apps sell the devices, not the other way around.

  • Maybe Apple one day give us a flat rate for the whole app store and developers get just a tiny bit per downloaded app.....so mainly like most streaming platforms works these days.
    Would be the end of niche apps then....

  • @AudioGus said:

    One of these days I just need to jump into Garageband cold, for Garageband sakes. Whenever I go in with a goal for a task one of the quirks just smacks me cold and says 'now why you want to do that?'

    The 'sampler' how ever basic it is has import from Files.app and respects loop-points set in the *.wav file.
    It's also easy to drag any piece of audio to the Garageband sampler-track for instant instrument creation.

    Why not export an 'Apple Loop' from BM3 (save it from the BM3 sample editor) and it will sync to tempo in Garageband(How accurate it will be depends on the amount of slice markers).

    The beat-sequencer in Garageband is neat but man I wish I could import my own samples to that one too :D
    So yeah, Garageband has it's quirks and knowing what the peeps at Apple can do (Referring to Logic) it could be crazy cool!

    Way, way off-topic from Subscription. But that's almost a TM for this forum ;)

  • I would happily pay 10€ per month for an app that compares to a very expensive desktop top notch application.

  • @Samu said:

    @AudioGus said:

    One of these days I just need to jump into Garageband cold, for Garageband sakes. Whenever I go in with a goal for a task one of the quirks just smacks me cold and says 'now why you want to do that?'

    The 'sampler' how ever basic it is has import from Files.app and respects loop-points set in the *.wav file.
    It's also easy to drag any piece of audio to the Garageband sampler-track for instant instrument creation.

    Why not export an 'Apple Loop' from BM3 (save it from the BM3 sample editor) and it will sync to tempo in Garageband(How accurate it will be depends on the amount of slice markers).

    The beat-sequencer in Garageband is neat but man I wish I could import my own samples to that one too :D
    So yeah, Garageband has it's quirks and knowing what the peeps at Apple can do (Referring to Logic) it could be crazy cool!

    Way, way off-topic from Subscription. But that's almost a TM for this forum ;)

    Thats what makes this forum so addictive. You never know where nuggets of gold like this can be found. Thanks for the brain food! :)

  • @Cib said:
    Maybe Apple one day give us a flat rate for the whole app store and developers get just a tiny bit per downloaded app.....so mainly like most streaming platforms works these days.
    Would be the end of niche apps then....

    I wouldn´t be too sure about that last part. There certainly is no shortage of obscure music on all the streaming platforms. With their rather good discovery engines, I have found lots of niche artists I never would have heard of otherwise. If the AppStore recommendation engine could be of similar quality (sigh), niche apps could co-exist just fine among the top players in such a streaming model.

    It is actually the only subscription model I believe in, for hobbyists and the large consumer base. Apple just needs to figure out that they can earn more money by having a large user base pay $10 per month and set it all free.
    For professional musicians that use the tools to generate income, paying a subscription to the few tools you decide to concentrate on shouldn´t be completely off-putting. I guess that´s a niche within a niche.

  • If all iOS apps went subs, iOS to me would be an historical side note.

  • @Korakios said:
    I would happily pay 10€ per month for an app that compares to a very expensive desktop top notch application.

    This is the problem I have too.... they’re are not even close to being as full featured and powerful as desktop apps yet. The individual instruments... maybe. The “DAWs”... no way. Big part of this is ipads are not that powerful enough yet. Apple is slow rolling the development. I still have to do alot of things back-in-the-box.
    Not to mention, I use mostly hardware to produce. They require zero subscriptions and actually have resale value. I love iOS apps. There’s really some amazing stuff now, but it’s gonna have to be way more of a powerful and comprehensive system before I do monthly payments.

    @knewspeak said:
    If all iOS apps went subs, iOS to me would be an historical side note.

    Most definitely

  • edited August 2018

    So far the deals I've been sucked into are the rent-to-own model on splice, where I'm currently paying off Serum and thinking about opting in for iZotope VocalSynth 2 and the D16 effects plugin bundle, Paying for Sylenth that way as well, through their own site. I'd love it if more plugin devs signed on. -- Would immediately sign up for Omnisphere 2 and perhaps Fabfilter suite.

    I'm not too big on pure subscription models unless it offers a lot of value for a reasonable fee. The East-West cloud service for $15 mo. is incredibly tempting though. If I didn't own Komplete 11 Ult, I would have probably already jumped on it ..I'll probably try it out eventually.

    The only pure-sub model I'm currently paying into are the educational services - Melodics has been incredibly helpful at getting me proficient at finger drumming , and yousician with guitar / keyboard.

  • @GospelMusicians said:
    A preset a day for life.

    Hey Jamal!

    This seems like a fabulous idea.

    Chiming in here with some anecdotal data. Talked to a popular maker of iOS Synths last week who is planning on adding a "preset-a-day" subscription this winter to a new app. If more devs do it, it will probably be more accepted. We were thinking of doing it as well as an added bonus if we started a Patreon. So, that would be at least 3 developers. Then, every day would be like Christmas for iOS musicians. ;)

    Another data point: Jam Looper, an app built with AudioKit with 250K users, lets users choose from IAP or subscriptions for EFX and sound packs. They didn't think subscriptions would catch on. However, it's so popular that the two developers were able to quit their day jobs.

    It appears that the key to keep people happy is to give users the option to choose between IAP or subscriptions. For at least one music app developer this year, offering both was the golden ticket.

  • @analog_matt said:

    @GospelMusicians said:
    A preset a day for life.

    Hey Jamal!

    This seems like a fabulous idea.

    Chiming in here with some anecdotal data. Talked to a popular maker of iOS Synths last week who is planning on adding a "preset-a-day" subscription this winter to a new app. If more devs do it, it will probably be more accepted. We were thinking of doing it as well as an added bonus if we started a Patreon. So, that would be at least 3 developers. Then, every day would be like Christmas for iOS musicians. ;)

    Another data point: Jam Looper, an app built with AudioKit with 250K users, lets users choose from IAP or subscriptions for EFX and sound packs. They didn't think subscriptions would catch on. However, it's so popular that the two developers were able to quit their day jobs.

    It appears that the key to keep people happy is to give users the option to choose between IAP or subscriptions. For at least one music app developer this year, offering both was the golden ticket.

    Very good info here @analog_matt

  • I’ve changed my mind, I’d subscribe to all and every app I’ve ever bought or thought of buying, every month I’d pay a small fee, for the rest of my life, and if I could pass it on to next of kin, they would too. It’s only fair.

  • edited August 2018

    @db909 said:
    Well I finally caved and got the Auxy subscription and I have to say it’s been worth it. Since subscription, Auxy has gained a selection of acoustic guitars, orchestral strings, brass, some choir sounds, more percussion than I’ll ever have time to go through, etc, making it less of an electronic music machine and more of a solid workstation period. All that in that great audio engine has been a lot of fun. And of course I just cancel and renew as necessary. That’s the only subscription app I use though. I’d imagine I would feel differently if all of my apps required a subscription

    Auxy's about the only one currently worth the monthly expense. Henrik Lenberg's also a super nice person. I actually told him in January "I normally hate subscriptions, but if you wanna go subscription and release a pack per month, I'd like orchestral stuff, guitars, world instruments, etc, not just EDM stuff. That's what will keep me on." Henrik listened. The Auxy chaps are as down to earth as they get.

    They're constantly having to defend themselves in their own forum, because there are people who hate subscriptions worse than me. :lol: I find that sad, because I want Auxy to continue succeeding. As I've said ad nauseum, Auxy does the subscription model right, and it's the company I use as the bar I set for others.

  • The subscription model fails when the developer disappears and the next month all your patches and data with it. It's happened to me too many times through the years and I refuse to participate.

  • Was JUST coming to post this....

  • @GospelMusicians said:

    @analog_matt said:

    @GospelMusicians said:
    A preset a day for life.

    Hey Jamal!

    This seems like a fabulous idea.

    Chiming in here with some anecdotal data. Talked to a popular maker of iOS Synths last week who is planning on adding a "preset-a-day" subscription this winter to a new app. If more devs do it, it will probably be more accepted. We were thinking of doing it as well as an added bonus if we started a Patreon. So, that would be at least 3 developers. Then, every day would be like Christmas for iOS musicians. ;)

    Another data point: Jam Looper, an app built with AudioKit with 250K users, lets users choose from IAP or subscriptions for EFX and sound packs. They didn't think subscriptions would catch on. However, it's so popular that the two developers were able to quit their day jobs.

    It appears that the key to keep people happy is to give users the option to choose between IAP or subscriptions. For at least one music app developer this year, offering both was the golden ticket.

    Very good info here @analog_matt

    All I can say is this in all REALITY I sincerely believe that this subscription trend
    will force non- jail broken IPAD owners to Jail break their devices and pirate the crap out of your software.
    Do you NOT think that the ADOBE suite of apps is NOT being pirated probably even more than before.
    Their apps are probably being used by corporations, businesses and schools who can afford to pay for it forever.
    There are some apps that I REALLY wanted that went subscription and I emailed the company in protest i will NOT subscribe....EVER......IF it all went subscription I would definitely Jail break my IPAD and fill my IPAD up with apps and get a few rock solid hardware pieces. "Buy and use is better" than "pay forever"

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    I'm too old for subsciptions. I rather pay a litlle more and own the software then pay a monthly fee and own nothing. I quite adobe for that reason, wil quite IOS just as easy and go back to my hardware......especially when I already paid 50 euro for cubasis and even more for Korg Gadget for instance.

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  • @Dawdles said:

    Whole thing stinks.... Always seemed like initially things like newspapers began to look at online subscription because they were being forced to. And that was fair enough. Used to buy a newspaper? Now buy it online. Used to rent movies? Now use Netflix. Used to buy music regularly? Now use Spotify. All fine.....But now it’s being used as a new tool to max out whatever the machine can suck from people for the longest time in the highest numbers. The examples in that article seem to be dumb people paying subscription for dumb apps. I think artists are a very different target, with lots of options, and won’t be quite as keen to tag along... maybe they’ll do subscription on one or two apps, but no way they’ll sign up for a ton of them. I f**king hate Apple more and more every day...

    Blame it on the stock-holders that expect their investment to multiply every year.
    Apple has the funds to exit the stock market and still grow. Look at IKEA they are not ’held hostage’ by stock market and grow loke crazy :D


  • Subscriptions are an awful idea, and if anyone disagrees, I will fight you.

  • Ebenezer Apple says, it's Humbug all round.

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  • edited August 2018

    How many of you have Apple Music Subscription? Remember when CDs were in and we would say. I want to own my CD or tape, or record. I would never pay a subscription. Now look...

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  • @Dawdles said:

    @GospelMusicians said:
    How many of you have Apple Music Subscription? Remember when CDs were in and we would say. I want to own my CD or tape, or record. I would never pay a subscription. Now look...

    I use Spotify but still buy the same amount of records that I always did ;)

    Same here, but if developers wanted to change things, hold a secret meeting invite Apple and tell them to stop F***ing Up their software with stupid updates that wreck things, also come up with a decent roadmap as to where iOS and the hardware is heading.

  • @GospelMusicians said:
    How many of you have Apple Music Subscription? Remember when CDs were in and we would say. I want to own my CD or tape, or record. I would never pay a subscription. Now look...

    The equivalent would be having to subscribe to each artist you are interested in. See that happening?

    The equivalent in the other direction would be to make AppStore like Spotify and Netflix, where all content is available for free once you have paid the monthly subscription fee. Don't see why it can't happen.

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