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Korg Electribe Wave

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  • @robosardine said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Rich303 said:
    My main concern is being stuck with a limited sound palette that ends up sounding like everyone else’s stuff.

    That’s the thing that’s keeping me on the fence, so I’m keeping an ear on the stuff being posted to try and gauge the range of sounds on offer.

    If I had to choose between Wave and Gadget- I would choose this. For me there is more of a chance of Gadget sounding like everyone else’s stuff. Wave is much more harmonically succulent and generative. I find most of the Gadgets fairly one dimensional in comparison-(though there are a few I really like). It’s far easier and quicker for me to get an interesting and engaging groove going with Wave..... especially if you ignore the drums and invite Patterning 2 to the party...... they go really well together.
    Btw for anyone struggling trying to get the lovely whacky sounds- it’s far easier I think on the lower end/ bass notes to do this.

    Agree with the above. KEW + Patterning 2 are a match made. I’ve added GR16 onto that. These three apps in AB3 really work well together :)

  • Day 3.....still don’t like it. And I really don’t get the praise it’s receiving here.
    It clicks like a traffic light for blind pedestrians.....and it sounds all palstic to my ears.
    Also I don’t get the workflow praise....I think it’s convulted.

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  • edited September 2018

    @JenaMu6 said:
    Day 3.....still don’t like it. And I really don’t get the praise it’s receiving here.
    It clicks like a traffic light for blind pedestrians.....and it sounds all palstic to my ears.
    Also I don’t get the workflow praise....I think it’s convulted.

    Workflow is fun for me and I sort of like the plasticky sound, reminds me of the microkorg. I seem to remember you have Korg gadget right? Do you get the clicks on any of those synths? I don’t have the issue on my arp odyssei which is the only other iOS Korg synth I have, odyssei works like a treat but I experience EW clicking on all synth modes.

  • edited September 2018

    @JenaMu6 said:
    Day 3.....still don’t like it. And I really don’t get the praise it’s receiving here.
    It clicks like a traffic light for blind pedestrians.....and it sounds all palstic to my ears.
    Also I don’t get the workflow praise....I think it’s convulted.

    Its a performance tool not a DAW so the workflow is geared towards livesets, think DJ not songwriter.

    Regarding the clicks it was released this week. Gadget 3.5 had problems for nearly a year before the got fixed but they did get fixed and you could still use Gadget and you can still use Wave but use it delicately. Clicks can get filtered out, lower the amplitude and use a compressor or the drive to increase the loudness.

    NB some things like mixer levels can be problematic if you save a song across multiple patterns. The app isn’t perfect but it lives up to initial expectations as far as I’m concerned.

  • over 50 free presets:

    zip file containing Electribe preset backup file:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/mmj8u0l3ytxjsc1/Free PATTISON electribe presets.zip?dl=0

    or
    Korg Electribe file:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/b84zvi0b1njxyj2/Free PATTISON electribe presets.ewproj?dl=0

    use file browser to place in electribe wave folder then restore from preferences.

    You can also put it in the korg folder using itunes

    If you like them, please consider subscribing and I'll be giving away more free presets to subscribers as well as many more tutorials and help with other Ipad apps, both old and new.

  • edited September 2018

    The clicks are there and to me unacceptable.....Korg knows they there and still put this on the market with clicks. So please don’t tell me they might perhaps fix it.......it should have been fixed before release.
    And maybe it’s because i don’t like EDM that I don’t like the sound of it.

  • @echoopera said:
    Trying something a little left of field...and am pretty happy with the results:

    Enjoying your output, very similar to what I'd want to do, and you're obviously having a ball with this.

    Just a quick question - are you getting the clicking sounds that some others are complaining about? I can hear some gravelly/grainy noises in the background of a couple of your tracks, but I think they maybe deliberate effect driven. Any issues with clicking?

    Cheers.

  • @Rich303 said:

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    No problem with draining the battery just the clicky envelopes on all voice modes.

    Thanks for confirming that. As for the envelopes clicking, I guess it’s safe to assume it’ll get fixed.

    I hope so because everything else is really good. The problem how the app uses DSP so I don’t know how easy it is to fix...

    Which model iPad are you using? I have a Mini 2 and it’s compatible according to Korg. But I don’t know if I’m really gonna run into any issues or not.

    I have a iPad Pro 9’7 2017 model

    I’m wondering if it’s got anything to do with that particular processor. I’ve read many complaints about it in the past with other apps. Is anyone else here experiencing the same envelope problem?

    Yes, it is a lot worse when using mono mode on the synth as it seems that in mono both ends of the envelope causes click, in poly mode it sounds like it is the tail, if you adjust the decay to make sure the envelope has ended before a new note then there is no click. I’m on Air 2

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    No problem with draining the battery just the clicky envelopes on all voice modes.

    Thanks for confirming that. As for the envelopes clicking, I guess it’s safe to assume it’ll get fixed.

    I hope so because everything else is really good. The problem how the app uses DSP so I don’t know how easy it is to fix...

    Which model iPad are you using? I have a Mini 2 and it’s compatible according to Korg. But I don’t know if I’m really gonna run into any issues or not.

    I have a iPad Pro 9’7 2017 model

    I’m wondering if it’s got anything to do with that particular processor. I’ve read many complaints about it in the past with other apps. Is anyone else here experiencing the same envelope problem?

    Only a few people have posted this issue on this forum, some people don’t seem to be bothered by it I guess. For me I can’t use it in a track with clicking that doesn’t make any sense. You are right in mentioning the iOS issue on some iPad’s as I have also heard about this but I don’t believe it is related to this issue.

    I’ll have to find out more. Is this only happening with bass sounds?

    Clicking is loudest on mono 2 mode but it is noticeable on mono 1 and poly mode. Usually this type of issue occurs when you have low polyphony which is 4 voices per part on EW so I was surprised to experience it on mono modes also. Like you said not many have mentioned it so I’m also a bit confused. Anyway I will wait a while longer hoping for an update as I love everything else about this app.

    Thanks for the info. I’m gonna pay more attention to the issue and see what others are experiencing too.

    Cool, keep me posted if you find any new info.

    I’m guessing a lot of folks are using the click free presets or are mainly using gate mode rather than envelope.

  • Yeah the clicking is definitely there (on drums too, 808 kick, etc).
    It’s the waveform restarting while the cycle is not at zero. Surprised this want fixed before 1.0.

  • Can you post a video of this 'clicking'? So we can hear how bad it is?

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    No problem with draining the battery just the clicky envelopes on all voice modes.

    Thanks for confirming that. As for the envelopes clicking, I guess it’s safe to assume it’ll get fixed.

    I hope so because everything else is really good. The problem how the app uses DSP so I don’t know how easy it is to fix...

    Which model iPad are you using? I have a Mini 2 and it’s compatible according to Korg. But I don’t know if I’m really gonna run into any issues or not.

    I have a iPad Pro 9’7 2017 model

    I’m wondering if it’s got anything to do with that particular processor. I’ve read many complaints about it in the past with other apps. Is anyone else here experiencing the same envelope problem?

    Only a few people have posted this issue on this forum, some people don’t seem to be bothered by it I guess. For me I can’t use it in a track with clicking that doesn’t make any sense. You are right in mentioning the iOS issue on some iPad’s as I have also heard about this but I don’t believe it is related to this issue.

    I’ll have to find out more. Is this only happening with bass sounds?

    Clicking is loudest on mono 2 mode but it is noticeable on mono 1 and poly mode. Usually this type of issue occurs when you have low polyphony which is 4 voices per part on EW so I was surprised to experience it on mono modes also. Like you said not many have mentioned it so I’m also a bit confused. Anyway I will wait a while longer hoping for an update as I love everything else about this app.

    Thanks for the info. I’m gonna pay more attention to the issue and see what others are experiencing too.

    Cool, keep me posted if you find any new info.

    I’m guessing a lot of folks are using the click free presets or are mainly using gate mode rather than envelope.

    Yeah I guess so. You are right about poly mode, it not ideal but you can manage it with ENV attack/release times plus/or playing only a few notes at the same time but with mono modes the clicks cannot be removed unless Korg can figure it out with an update.

  • edited September 2018

    @JenaMu6 said:
    The clicks are there and to me unacceptable.....Korg nows they there and stil put this on the market with clicks. So please don’t tell me they might perhaps fix it.......it should have been fixed before relaease.
    And maybe it’s because i don’t like EDM that I don’t like the sound of it.

    I have had the electribe E2, the original grey-one, for years now and they still haven't fixed the clicking on it!!!!! They changed it to minimize the clicking, but didn't solve it.

    I found some ways to work around it, but the "feature" was still there. I hope they don't go down the same path. It is like they are using some the same code they use on the electribe E2 & E2s firmware.

    Have a look on the Korg forums to see how long ago people were complaining about the clicking. The were always pointing to the envelope as well.

    Here is an example on the E2:

    Part I am talking about starts at around 11:25

  • I haven’t noticed any clicking- but then I hadn’t noticed it either on the Korg Monotribe until someone pointed it out.

  • edited September 2018

    Pros:

    Workflow (Patterns) - I've really enjoyed the workflow when building up patterns. Fast and fun.

    Synth (Sounds) - Simple, yet powerful. I typically make deep techno, and I've had no problem making deep basses, dubby stabs or lush pads. It's much more versatile than the demos would indicate.


    Cons:

    Workflow (Song) - Putting patterns together into a track still hasn't clicked for me. I haven't touched an Electribe in some time, so I'm hoping this will get easier over time.

    Synth (Clicking) - The clicking others have mentioned is occasionally present, but I've found it pretty easy to fix with a few tweaks. I don't think this is uncommon with wavetable synths?

    Presets - Pants. Deleted.

    Drums - This is the big one for me. There aren't many and given they cover many styles, I found less than half actually useful. Creative use of pitch and FX is needed to expand your options. I've started using two synth tracks for kick and snare, which works, but obviously reduces your synth options to six.

  • edited September 2018

    I find most of the Gadgets fairly one dimensional in comparison-(though there are a few I really like). It’s far easier and quicker for me to get an interesting and engaging groove going with Wave..... especially if you ignore the drums and invite Patterning 2 to the party...... they go really well together.

    Btw for anyone struggling trying to get the lovely whacky sounds- it’s far easier I think on the lower end/ bass notes to do this.

    So is it easy to invite Patterning 2 to the party? How do you do that through AUM? AB? or APE? I really like P2 and I’m on the freakin fence for Electribe.

  • @marcuspresident said:
    I find most of the Gadgets fairly one dimensional in comparison-(though there are a few I really like). It’s far easier and quicker for me to get an interesting and engaging groove going with Wave..... especially if you ignore the drums and invite Patterning 2 to the party...... they go really well together.

    Btw for anyone struggling trying to get the lovely whacky sounds- it’s far easier I think on the lower end/ bass notes to do this.

    So is it easy to invite Patterning 2 to the party? How do you do that through AUM? AB? or APE? I really like P2 and I’m on the freakin fence for Electribe.

    Yes it’s very easy. Wave and Patterning 2 both have Ableton Link- which means that they will both play together with perfect timing.
    Just open them both in Audiobus or AUM etc- give each one a lane to itself (so they will both be functioning as ‘inputs’). Then all you need to do is make sure that Ableton Link is switched on in both apps- normally found in settings (which is usually means tapping a wheel shape with cogs on it at the top of the page to access). Press play on each and you will find that they are playing perfectly together. It gets better- very many apps have Ableton Link..... Let’s get this party started!

  • edited September 2018

    The program is well conceived. But the clicks make it very limited. Strongly do not recommend buying until it is fixed. https://youtu.be/1Wg8D_IVY3A

  • edited September 2018

    Re the clicking I think that’s what filters were invented for. What’s on your master channel?

    Anyway my first ever Electribe Livejam is up. It’s been processed in Cubasis with some magic plugins for extra nostalgia. Enjoy.

  • @robosardine said:

    @marcuspresident said:
    I find most of the Gadgets fairly one dimensional in comparison-(though there are a few I really like). It’s far easier and quicker for me to get an interesting and engaging groove going with Wave..... especially if you ignore the drums and invite Patterning 2 to the party...... they go really well together.

    Btw for anyone struggling trying to get the lovely whacky sounds- it’s far easier I think on the lower end/ bass notes to do this.

    So is it easy to invite Patterning 2 to the party? How do you do that through AUM? AB? or APE? I really like P2 and I’m on the freakin fence for Electribe.

    Yes it’s very easy. Wave and Patterning 2 both have Ableton Link- which means that they will both play together with perfect timing.
    Just open them both in Audiobus or AUM etc- give each one a lane to itself (so they will both be functioning as ‘inputs’). Then all you need to do is make sure that Ableton Link is switched on in both apps- normally found in settings (which is usually means tapping a wheel shape with cogs on it at the top of the page to access). Press play on each and you will find that they are playing perfectly together. It gets better- very many apps have Ableton Link..... Let’s get this party started!

    Very good. For some reason was just using the thing on its own, it's perfect with P2. Thanks for the nudge.

  • @LucidMusicInc said:

    @JenaMu6 said:
    Day 3.....still don’t like it. And I really don’t get the praise it’s receiving here.
    It clicks like a traffic light for blind pedestrians.....and it sounds all palstic to my ears.
    Also I don’t get the workflow praise....I think it’s convulted.

    Its a performance tool not a DAW so the workflow is geared towards livesets, think DJ not songwriter.

    Regarding the clicks it was released this week. Gadget 3.5 had problems for nearly a year before the got fixed but they did get fixed and you could still use Gadget and you can still use Wave but use it delicately. Clicks can get filtered out, lower the amplitude and use a compressor or the drive to increase the loudness.

    NB some things like mixer levels can be problematic if you save a song across multiple patterns. The app isn’t perfect but it lives up to initial expectations as far as I’m concerned.

    yeah, it‘s a special workflow ... I can see it can be very attractive for a certain kind of music and especially for people who have played with the hardware electribes.

    It‘s not for every one I found, and I think I‘ll ask for a refund on this. I find Gadget much more intuitive and a much wider pallette of sounds — I‘m much more impulsed to open Gadget than electribe. AND the clicks are just annoying, and the fact that I can‘t simply pick off where I left it.
    I have to say though that I have not a lot of time and attention right now to learn a new workflow so if I had too much time I might like it a lot more. I presume once you get to a point of familiarity with it, the workflow offers an immediacy of interaction that most other apps are lacking.
    For now, however, I‘ll return it ...

  • Regarding the clicking, there is no amount of limiting or filtering that will prevent this. It is up to Korg to declick the envelopes if they decide it's a problem. They may say this is intended behaviour.

    This is what it is doing at the moment. Mono voice changing notes.

    This is a different mono synth that does not click.

  • @Mark B said:
    Regarding the clicking, there is no amount of limiting or filtering that will prevent this. It is up to Korg to declick the envelopes if they decide it's a problem. They may say this is intended behaviour.

    This is what it is doing at the moment. Mono voice changing notes.

    This is a different mono synth that does not click.

    Which of the Electribe Wave's two mono modes were you testing with?

  • Just add tons of grain and stutter.

  • @Samu said:

    @Mark B said:
    Regarding the clicking, there is no amount of limiting or filtering that will prevent this. It is up to Korg to declick the envelopes if they decide it's a problem. They may say this is intended behaviour.

    This is what it is doing at the moment. Mono voice changing notes.

    This is a different mono synth that does not click.

    Which of the Electribe Wave's two mono modes were you testing with?

    I think it was Mono 1, but they both produce similar results.

  • @Slava said:
    The program is well conceived. But the clicks make it very limited. Strongly do not recommend buying until it is fixed. https://youtu.be/1Wg8D_IVY3A

    Fascinating watching that. I’ve not had a single click so far. Well nothing I’ve noticed. Definitely nothing as extreme as those. Wonder what I’m doing different?

    All the sounds I’ve used are of my own making so far. Wonder what else is making the difference as it’s so obvious in your video

  • I was almost ready to take the leap. But after a few posts demonstrating the clicking problem, I’m gonna hold of until Korg fixes it.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @Slava said:
    The program is well conceived. But the clicks make it very limited. Strongly do not recommend buying until it is fixed. https://youtu.be/1Wg8D_IVY3A

    Fascinating watching that. I’ve not had a single click so far. Well nothing I’ve noticed. Definitely nothing as extreme as those. Wonder what I’m doing different?

    All the sounds I’ve used are of my own making so far. Wonder what else is making the difference as it’s so obvious in your video

    The issue in the video has nada to do with the envelopes since 'gate mode' is used for the amp...

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