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Xequence updated with AudioBus!!!

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  • Great update, tx!

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    @SlowwFloww said:
    @SevenSystems

    Thank you for the update..

    I just got Xequence some days ago, but haven't tried it yet.. It will take me some time to read the manual and find my way in the app...

    But just a quick question: I also bought Gadget recently. When I export my Gadget project as a midi file will I be able to load that file into Xequence and play my song right away? I assume I only have to set the midi out ports in Xequence right?

    That would be great.. start a project in Gadget and after exporting, finetune & finish it in Xequence..

    I'm so happy that I finally found a killer combo for making music on iOS.. it only took me 8 months :smile:

    :) I don't think I've actually ever tried importing a MIDI file from Gadget into Xequence, maybe someone else here has some experience to share? In theory it should work fine of course.

    In any case, it would probably be better if you started and finished the entire composition and arrangement in Xequence, as lots of information (part boundaries, part looping, cloned parts, colors, etc. etc.) cannot be transfered via a MIDI file.

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  • edited August 2018

    @tja must be a bug in iOS and/or DEVONthink, or a quirk in the logic that those apps use to decide if a page is "available offline", whatever that's supposed to mean.

  • very very cool. any chance of this being able to set in a input or fix track in AUM or Apematrix?

  • wimwim
    edited August 2018

    @SevenSystems - Thanks so much for this amazing update! Working with Xequence in AudioBus is just ideal! I feel like this is the smoothest and most iOS workflow I’ve ever come across. B)

    I ran into one small thing that could maybe be improved. When working in Audiobus, when I start Xequence recording, Xequence starts as it should after the count-in. So far so good. But, as soon as I press play in Audiobus, recording stops. It would be better if recording continued. Or even better if AudioBus started as well after the count-in via Link Start/Stop.

    Either way would work as I can either press play in Audiobus during the last measure of the count-in and Link will start it in sync, or have it automated.

    This is in order to capture midi output from Audiobus with Xequence in the midi out position.

    Thanks for listening and for your hard work!!

    [edit] Oh - and FYI Midi 2 shows at the top of the output selection list in Audiobus rather than in order like the rest of the channels. No biggie. ;)

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  • Awesome! Thanks!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

  • This is gonna DESTROY with Sampletank !!!!

  • edited August 2018

    @wim said:
    @SevenSystems - Thanks so much for this amazing update! Working with Xequence in AudioBus is just ideal! I feel like this is the smoothest and most iOS workflow I’ve ever come across. B)

    That's very good to hear, also happy to finally be a proper citizen of this forum! :)

    I ran into one small thing that could maybe be improved. When working in Audiobus, when I start Xequence recording, Xequence starts as it should after the count-in. So far so good. But, as soon as I press play in Audiobus, recording stops. It would be better if recording continued.

    Oh definitely, that's unintentional behaviour and must have slipped through testing. Will be fixed in the next update! Good catch.

    [edit] Oh - and FYI Midi 2 shows at the top of the output selection list in Audiobus rather than in order like the rest of the channels. No biggie. ;)

    That's an issue in the Audiobus app itself, reported to @Michael already and he's probably right on it! :)

  • @tja said:
    The workfkow of Gadget is quite special and may just be the right thing to get things started.
    But for arranging parts etc. Xequence would be much better.

    If a Gadget "nut" could give me a few hints on what's better in Gadget's workflow for initial idea collection, I'll be sure to pull out some heavy guns to correct that! ;)

    Meanwhile, I will download your manual page to desktop for further inspection ;)

    Don't waste your energy... why not just use the PDF? :) I mean, the online version is... an online version! Even Tim Berners-Lee would agree! (deedee!)

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  • Ta for the update, one of my faves.

  • edited August 2018

    @tja said:
    About the manual, I just archive lots of stuff was webarchives in DEVONthink To Go or in Apps like Glady, and I disturbs me to a great extend, when that does not work.
    You manual is the first webpage that I notice that from.

    I opened a Feedback at Apple about this, even using your website as example ;-)

    Well it's for sure interesting. I have just checked again and there's exactly one absolute URL in the whole manual, and that's the download link for the Korg Gadget demo project. That has to stay absolute though, because that same web page gets converted to the downloadable PDF and I would like the link to work in the PDF as well (which it wouldn't were it relative). But maybe that's what your downloader is choking on. There's also a piece of JS which automatically generates the FAQ TOC, maybe JS is "verboten" for "offline" consumption. IDK :smirk:

    Anyway, if you like we can continue to investigate via PM ;) And I stubbornly maintain: web is for web browsers with an internet connection, PDF is for offline consumption! [conservative-grumpy-old-man-voice] ;)

  • Well done sevensystem, a great update. Im sure it was not small thing to get it working with AB3. I agree, this makes one of the nicest sequencing experiences on ios when linked with AB3. Excellent! I havent worked out how to trigger play from AB3 yet but everything else works real well. Anyone?
    BTW
    I never noticed before but your implementation of program change is pretty clever. Just one of a host of cool features but that caught my eye. Ive never used program change before and might consider it now that it is so well implemented here.

  • @Richtowns said:
    Well done sevensystem, a great update. Im sure it was not small thing to get it working with AB3. I agree, this makes one of the nicest sequencing experiences on ios when linked with AB3. Excellent! I havent worked out how to trigger play from AB3 yet but everything else works real well. Anyone?

    Enable Link in both Xequence and AB3.

  • edited August 2018

    @Richtowns thanks! To get start and stop in sync with Audiobus, please make sure that Ableton Link is enabled both in Audiobus and in Xequence. ("..." menu -> "Link").

    You should then be able to use the regular transport controls in Audiobus or the Audiobus Sidebar.

    There's a few reports about minor issues with transport sync, these will be fixed shortly in an update.

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  • wimwim
    edited August 2018

    Pretty cool. Saved an AB3 preset then shared it via text to my iPhone. All I then needed to do was get the Xequence project file from the Xequence folder on my iPad over to the Xequence folder on my iPhone to get fully up and running.

    I suppose if iCloud synced storage was an option in Xequence this could be even more streamlined, but I’m not complaining. This is great!

  • Just saying...

  • I must say, I'm still totally baffled by Xequence. I was hoping that I could drop in synths and Xequence on the AB3 midi page, as in Cubasis, channels would just be populated in Xequence. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but that's not the case.
    Could anybody grab some screenshots of, for example, of an AB3 setup featuring two or three AUs being driven by Xequence? I have a real mental block with this otherwise beautiful piece of software.

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  • edited August 2018

    Happy congrats on the update! And the manual PDF... :)

  • @ExAsperis99 I think this is the key screen, the midi config in xequencer ...

    So, the steps are.
    Open ab3
    Go to the midi tab
    Add instances of xequencer in the source. Port one in slot one etc
    Add your synths of choice in the midi destinations
    Now click on one of the xequencer iconsto go to xequencer
    Start a new project
    Click on the midi icon in the top row. How click on the settings icon of the source.
    Change the source to be Audiobus
    (Thats the hard work done now)
    If you click on the + in this source and it will automatically configure another set to the next midi port (check that audiobus is selected as destination, this happened automatically)
    If your finished adding sources click the settings cog again and your in instruent view
    Click on the first instrument view settings icon and check its linked to the first source.
    Click + and the next new instument is automatically assigned to the next midi source.

    Add some notes and your here ...

    Its a few steps but once you get it, you get it. Hope this helps :)

  • wimwim
    edited August 2018

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    I must say, I'm still totally baffled by Xequence. I was hoping that I could drop in synths and Xequence on the AB3 midi page, as in Cubasis, channels would just be populated in Xequence. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but that's not the case.
    Could anybody grab some screenshots of, for example, of an AB3 setup featuring two or three AUs being driven by Xequence? I have a real mental block with this otherwise beautiful piece of software.

    I think you got it backwards conceptually. Xequence is sending to the apps, not the other way around like on the Audio page.




  • edited August 2018

    I played around with it just to see how to get it set up, and... it's just about exactly what I found "missing" from Xequence vs. Gadget and means I think I'm ready to make that leap out of the Gadget box as I've been collecting plenty of synths and effects over the last year that collect virtual dust.

    Only 2 issues left for me to figure out (totally do-able): 1) how to do program changes to partially get around a limit of 16 midi channels, and 2) how to export each track individually -though this means solo-ing each and using AudioCopy to record each track one at a time... not as easy as Gadget which has an amazing export function.

    I also can't figure out a way to have a Bus/Master in AB3, so I'm trying AUM in addition to AB3 etc. (more CPU though) so I could apply a master bus compressor, etc.

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  • @vitocorleone123 said:
    1) how to do program changes to partially get around a limit of 16 midi channels

    Place the song position pointer where you want the program change to occur (enable the ruler and tap / drag on it), select the track where you want the program change by tapping on its title / header on the left, then tap on "+" in the bottom toolbar -> "Program Change".

    and 2) how to export each track individually

    Yes, exporting each track as a separate MIDI file is not supported currently, but it's a nice addition I'll put on the list :)

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