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Why are there so few actual compositions done fully on an ipad?

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  • I do everything within my iPad from start to finish. Completed compositions and dabbling. iOS now has a huge selection of quality apps for making finalised tracks to my own satisfaction and humble skill level as a main hobby and interest. Probably a lot of us here have SoundCloud, Band Camp or Choon accounts where our finished work can be found and heard in more detail if desired. This is a good Forum for information sharing and learning from others, and plenty of people do also post their work here in the Creations section. The “Song of the month” threads here are a great place to check out other people’s finished work too.

  • I am not sure why it matters whether or not "pros" are releasing material done 100% on a mobile device. Mobile devices have a lot to offer.

    One can certainly create professional-quality tracks. And iPads get used a fair amount by pros even if not for the entire production.

    For large-scale production, they are not as convenient. While some people talk about mice being more optimal than touch interfaces (which isn't necessarily true), I think screen real estate is a huge reason why desktop environments are attractive for mixing and projects with lots of tracks.

    Multi-monitor setups make life a lot easier. Especially when one of them is very large.

    That being said. There are some great tracks that people are making on mobile devices. And I am not sure why people feel validated or invalidated by whether people use the same gear as they do.

  • I did a few 100 tracks just on an iPhone and 2 albums.
    But now it‘s just a part of my workflow. It‘s not about a crippled OS, it‘s about the music.
    The term „iOS music“ doesn‘t say anything these days.

  • @bedheadproducer said:
    Hi, I'm new around here, so excuse any ignorance in my questions or statements...as I just not be in the Know yet about some things...I've watched hundreds if not over a 1000 videos about IOS music apps and ios music creation, but almost none of the presenters ever post any songs. It seems to me that most people dabble? Why? I suppose this could change soon as the IPAD gets more powerful and has more storage space. I think that time is almost here.

    HUMOR_FONT_ON

    You've watched 1000 videos and just showed up here on Aug 30? If ONLY you had engaged earlier you could have avoided getting anything done. Welcome to the club!

    HUMOR_FONT_OFF

    Simple truth: a finished/published work is a request for someone to judge your work. Many of us really don't need or want that hard truth. We play and create for the joy of the process. Hard to understand but often very true. I learned a long time ago that I'm not a great talent and (trust me) no one judges my efforts harder than I do myself. Most of it's not worth asking for someone to spend the time and then try to be nice about the results.

    I have a few friends here and sometimes I slip them a link to my SoundCloud and they give me advice on how to improve. In return I listen to their work and give them support to keep creating.

    Everyone has an audience that will resonate with their efforts but weeding through the millions out there to develop that audience into something eager for your next Opus is work. I quit work. I play and I'll not bother you with my little sketches in the night.

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    I checked this guy @Spidericemidas out and he has 12 albums of music on iTunes: Excellent guitar stylist.

  • Lol, I stand corrected! Which brings me to a whole other point. But first,
    I did mention that I am new and therefore ignorant as to how many people are creating music, but I'm actually thrilled that there are so many more of you than I knew about. So my other point is this: I had a discussion with a friend. It went something like this"Dude, I've been digging into the world of music creation on IOS, and not only does it seem to be the only place that a ton of innovation is going on, but it's going to get much bigger and more widespread, especially as Ipads get more space and horsepower and even the android world will eventually convert once they get a touch screen that has practically no latency like the IPAD. " And my friend was like "You mean to tell me that you can record an actual quality sounding album, dozens of audio tracks with real time plugins and have it sound any good? I can't believe it. The technology isn't there. Processors/CPUs are no longer getting that much faster very quickly. I don't think you can ever replace a desktop." To which I said "Dude, it's already happening. I've already done it and I'm sure there are plenty of others " I guess It didn't occur to me when I posted today, that there are way more people and musicians, that don't post on youtube than people that do, but I wasn't trying to say that these youtubers represented everyone. I had a feeling that this thread would reveal exactly what it did. In fact I was hoping it would so I can point to it and go : "See, I'm not crazy or full of pipe dreams."
    I'm not a naysayer. In fact quite the opposite. I'm a total convert . I find it harder and harder going back to my PC.
    I know the programmer for a huge and pretty famous VST synth. He has an Ipad and I asked him if he had checked out the scene lately and he said that he has known for a few years that there are music apps on the IPAD but just see's it as a novelty. I told him as well " well it may have been a novelty for awhile, as it was underdeveloped and in it's infancy, but it's not like that anymore. It's a growing and emerging scene of people that see it for what it is.....the way of the future.
    Thanks everyone for indulging my question and for posting links...I'll surely be checking all the links out. You rock!

  • edited September 2018

    My projects are created 100% on iPad - including videos:

    youtube.com/MobileMusic

  • I have a supposedly "professional" Pro Tools setup in boxes in my closet since 2015, when I began using iOS Music Production apps exclusively in my home studio. I don't miss it and with some skill and good kit the iOS studio is extremely capable of creating great music.

    A lot of what's being posted here on the AB forum has to do with what the musician/producer aims are in their studio and what they are creating at a particular time. Many may use their setup for songwriting, some use it to record their live electronic hardware jams, some record fully produced songs, etc..Many times "bits" of compositions are posted to demonstrate an apps abilities or a recording concept.

    My lack of posts with original music is because about 30% of my studio time is experimenting and songwriting, or getting sounds together for projects and 70% is recording fully arranged original songs with a mix of guitars & other real instrumentation as well as iOS synths, drumboxes, etc.

    I have several songs going at once (not a good move but I seem to always do it) and I fully admit to being a procrastinator that can be just plain lazy. Or I'll get all jazzed up to spend time in the studio and while thinking I'll spend 15min checking email, this forum, YouTube recording videos, etc. it'll be 4 hours later in a FLASH and I'm ready to go kip out on the couch awhile.

    But there's great music here if one seeks it out: Dmitri @theconnactic , the regulars at the Song of the Month Club like @richardyot @JohnnyGoodyear @supanorton @studs1966 and many others routinely post some fantastic stuff.

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    Gee, this was heartening. Every other thread it seems has comments from people who still use desktop and iOS to flesh it out a bit. I’ve never quite seen repo she’s like this and that’s coming from someone who was previously considering getting the new upcoming iPad Air and using Logic. I’m not so sure now.. Amxious;y awaiting the new Stagelight to see what it brings.

  • I think a lot of the time people have it backwards. It’s not so much that iOS devices aren’t suited to producing finished product, it’s that they are way more suited to casual creation and sketching ideas than a desktop setup, so there’s a higher percentage of incomplete experiments. I have to find a decent block of time to commit to locking myself away and creating stuff on my desktop, so it happens less often and I tend to know what I’m aiming for. On my iPad it’s here and there on a whim. I might not end up with a finished piece, but it’s far more free and creative. More creative discipline is required to finish stuff. If however, you work 9-5 in your studio environment, I can appreciate that a desktop setup is more conducive to productivity.

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    @bedheadproducer said:
    Lol, I stand corrected! Which brings me to a whole other point. But first,
    I did mention that I am new and therefore ignorant as to how many people are creating music, but I'm actually thrilled that there are so many more of you than I knew about. So my other point is this: I had a discussion with a friend. It went something like this"Dude, I've been digging into the world of music creation on IOS, and not only does it seem to be the only place that a ton of innovation is going on, but it's going to get much bigger and more widespread, especially as Ipads get more space and horsepower and even the android world will eventually convert once they get a touch screen that has practically no latency like the IPAD. " And my friend was like "You mean to tell me that you can record an actual quality sounding album, dozens of audio tracks with real time plugins and have it sound any good? I can't believe it. The technology isn't there. Processors/CPUs are no longer getting that much faster very quickly. I don't think you can ever replace a desktop." To which I said "Dude, it's already happening. I've already done it and I'm sure there are plenty of others " I guess It didn't occur to me when I posted today, that there are way more people and musicians, that don't post on youtube than people that do, but I wasn't trying to say that these youtubers represented everyone. I had a feeling that this thread would reveal exactly what it did. In fact I was hoping it would so I can point to it and go : "See, I'm not crazy or full of pipe dreams."
    I'm not a naysayer. In fact quite the opposite. I'm a total convert . I find it harder and harder going back to my PC.
    I know the programmer for a huge and pretty famous VST synth. He has an Ipad and I asked him if he had checked out the scene lately and he said that he has known for a few years that there are music apps on the IPAD but just see's it as a novelty. I told him as well " well it may have been a novelty for awhile, as it was underdeveloped and in it's infancy, but it's not like that anymore. It's a growing and emerging scene of people that see it for what it is.....the way of the future.
    Thanks everyone for indulging my question and for posting links...I'll surely be checking all the links out. You rock!

    Both things are true. IOS can do a lot but it‘s not the holy grail and won‘t be. There will always be pro and contra.
    I think all these things will get to a convergence more and more.
    Sadly i have to disagree that there are more innovations on iOS. It‘s more the opposite.
    People anyway should not try to replace something.
    So different workflows. A lot things are great on a touch screen while many other things works 10 times faster with a mouse/trackpad and short cuts.
    F.e. a big DAW like Logic would be terrible on an iPad.
    But you can do great things with all music tools these day and no one should really cares which device, OS or music tools you used.
    I was a hardcore mobile music some years ago but iOS as great as it is doesn‘t evolved where i wanted it and it‘s still way to closed. There was the time when it was more about „it‘s all done on a smartphone only“ instead of the music itself. There is no such thing like „iOS music“.
    Use whatever make you happy and tell people sbout it but don‘t start to try to convert folks with „this is the future“.....sorry, it‘s not.....yet.

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    @bedheadproducer , I was hoping you would respond to all this and you did. It seems you are now a true blue iOS devotee and as such will have to absorb some slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, like your friend and the music maker. Like most of us your dreams for iOS are a bit grandiose. Hopefully they will be realized in the near future, but it is a question mark after all.

    Your enthusiasm and goodwill are noted and I hope you realize that the evenhanded and, for the most part, fair minded , thoughtful and enlightening responses you have gotten to your slightly controversial post, are representative of the quality characters who haunt this community. It is a beautiful port in a sometimes stormy sea, and shipwrecked sailors are always welcomed and cared for. Welcome aboard! Why don't you post an iOS creation here. It would round things up quite nicely. And don't be concerned about stirring the pot. All part of the fun!

  • @Spidericemidas said:
    I do everything within my iPad from start to finish

    What App's are you using for Producing:

    DAW?
    FX?
    Synths?
    Drums?

    For many here I can fill out their answers.
    @LinearLineman

    DAW - Cubasis A big proponent
    FX - Waves IAP's in Cubasis
    Synths - Thor and a lot of Acoustic Sampled (iSymphonic, BeatHawk, iFretLess, ThumbJam)
    Drums - Soft Drummer

    Given your iTunes Music discography I think you'd have very similar tastes. Like an updated IOS version of Tascam Port-a-studio.

    I really enjoy your guitar instrumentals from iTunes Music. I like the singing electric tone quality you get.

    We acoustic instrument types are the minority here compared to those that favor Electronica style performance and composition.
    We need give each other a lot of encouragement to actually produce projects. I guess your looking for like minds so I'd recommend you start with a @thesoundtestroom collaboration with 2 other Forum Members:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=nLeDVmxjLTc

    It doesn't get much better than that for making "finished products". They collaborate sending project files back and forth using cloud file sharing. So, you might find a collaborator here if that appeals to you.

  • edited September 2018

    @McDtracy said:

    @bedheadproducer said:
    Hi, I'm new around here, so excuse any ignorance in my questions or statements...as I just not be in the Know yet about some things...I've watched hundreds if not over a 1000 videos about IOS music apps and ios music creation, but almost none of the presenters ever post any songs. It seems to me that most people dabble? Why? I suppose this could change soon as the IPAD gets more powerful and has more storage space. I think that time is almost here.

    HUMOR_FONT_ON

    You've watched 1000 videos and just showed up here on Aug 30? If ONLY you had engaged earlier you could have avoided getting anything done. Welcome to the club!

    HUMOR_FONT_OFF

    Simple truth: a finished/published work is a request for someone to judge your work. Many of us really don't need or want that hard truth. We play and create for the joy of the process. Hard to understand but often very true. I learned a long time ago that I'm not a great talent and (trust me) no one judges my efforts harder than I do myself. Most of it's not worth asking for someone to spend the time and then try to be nice about the results.

    I have a few friends here and sometimes I slip them a link to my SoundCloud and they give me advice on how to improve. In return I listen to their work and give them support to keep creating.

    Everyone has an audience that will resonate with their efforts but weeding through the millions out there to develop that audience into something eager for your next Opus is work. I quit work. I play and I'll not bother you with my little sketches in the night.

    You're pretty eloquent when your humor font is off. I have to wonder what you're like with your humor font on. :)
    You make me feel blessed. I apparently was born with strengths you weren't but that's ok because, were it not for music I would have been"completely good for nothing" like the rest of the men in my family.....which is an ode to what I was told repeatedly as a child. For the longest time I had nothing I could say I did well. I sucked so bad at sports that I was always the last one picked and had to watch the captain's argue over who had to take me at the very end, in front of everyone.

    Once, we played flag football and I actually caught the ball. My tiny victory was ruined by the fact that everyone on both teams simply let me pass by them untouched because,frankly, everyone on both teams fell to the ground with laughter and disbelief. I got picked on mercilessly. No one would be my friend.

    Then one day, I heard AC/DC and Led Zeppelin and decided I wanted to play guitar. I wasn't a good technician, but I had a creative spark like most people never do. I could make riffs on one or two strings, having no clue what I was doing, endlessly. I soon discovered that when I played, people paid attention.

    Within a year or two, my whole life changed. As long as I didn't talk, but rather just played guitar, I started getting mass respect from everyone who heard me. Again, it was my spontaneous improvisation that wowed them, not my technical ability, but my timing was always solid. I didn't play a single lead lick for the first 5 years. I learned slower than everyone I knew, but I never stopped. I played guitar obsessively. It was a priority higher than eating or sleeping.

    At 16 I was sent to military school. I had two left feet and couldn't march. My platoon had to stop regularly while I was made to do pushups in front of them because I messed up right or left face turn on command. Again I was picked on mercilessly until I begged my mom to send me my guitar.

    The day it arrived all that stopped. I was adopted into the secret underground of "cool kids" who secretly smoked pot at school. This ended up getting me expelled. My mom was furious as she had to forfeit half of a hefty tuition for my screw up. I was sent from California to life with grandmother in Michigan. I arrived at a small town high school, looking awkward and skinny with a buzz cut.

    At first they were poised to torture me again, but as it turned out, the toughest kid in school, one who was bigger than everyone else because he was a year older, happened to be a guitar fanatic. I turned out I was better than him, so he took me under his wing and I never got messed with in the five years I was there. My friends used to play a game, called "blow their mind" , where they would talk me up to someone who had not heard me play. The bragging was on such a level that the prospective listener could not believe I could possibly be that good and they were marched over to my grandmother's house and it was demanded I play, on the spot, no preparation. To my absolute joy, after all of my spontaneous performances, my audience would leave the house and I could hear my friends trailing off " see...I told you so."

    Now mind you, no matter what anyone side, like you, I was super critical of myself. One day I met a kid that was from out of town. My best friend brought him over. He blew me away. It was the first time on guitar I felt utterly defeated. This only doubled my resolve. By the time I was 18 I was more obsessed with music than ever. That year, Joe Satriani's "Surfing with the Alien" and Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force were both released. It was also the year I got in a head on collision on a motor cycle , resulting in the amputation of my left foot. (Don't worry, that did not stop me in the least bit..in fact it's the reason I can play the way I play today) I moved back to California, still on crutches, with a new prosthetic limb. I remember going to a music store in the east bay of San Francisco, where I still live to this day and the very first day seeing 4 guitarists at
    the music store, that could shred circles around me.

    I was now a small fish in a big pond. It was very humbling, but also motivating and eye opening. I benefited greatly from seeing the mechanics of shredding in front of my eyes, close up, because I'd never been exposed to that before. I had only ever heard great playing...not actually seen it.

    It wasn't until I was 24 that I was able to walk again normally, but I practiced 12 hours a day, consistently until I was 30. My trick and probably the greatest reason I improved, was every single time I found someone better than me, I invited them over to jam and watched them intently, secretly stealing every technique they would show me. Had any of them known what I was doing, none of them would have come over....lol. By the time I was 30, I had performed all over Northern California and had a reputation as a hotshot in my area, but for the amount of years I'd been playing I was still behind the curve.

    I was not a natural at all, except creatively, but I was smart enough I join forces with a technical player in my band, who could play as fast and clean as al dimiola and Yngwie. He taught me to use my wrist when playing fast and not my whole arm. After that, two things changed my life permanently....One was meeting the best guitarist I've ever met in my life, name Mark Abrahamian. I performed Joe Satriani's "Always with You, Always with me" at his funeral. He was the guitarist for Mickey Thomas's version of Starship (remember the dude who sang "fool around and fell in love " and "we built this city on rock and roll" ?) for many years and tragically died of a heart attack in the dressing room after a concert. Mark was a GIT grad who went to GIT at the same time as Paul Gilbert and Marc saw something in me and took me under his wing and taught me more than any single guitarist ever has....all for free. The second life changing thing that happened, and ultimately the reason I'm ere on this forum...Is a young woman, 20 something dragged me to a rave and gave me a hit of exstacy.

    That is when I fell in love with electronic dance music. Ironically there was not a single guitar in any of dance music back then, but I was amazed at the bass that came out of those speakers. I remember seeing my first rock concert...Judas Priest, Screaming for Vengeance and was floored at the power of amplified guitar, but that paled in comparison to what it felt like with 10, 000 kids dancing to amplified dance music with a bass frequency so powerful, that at times I wondered if it might stop my heart.

    I would sneak off to raves at 25, with long hair, often being the oldest audience member there. Many thought I must have been a cop. None of my metal head friends knew I was attending these raves . No one did. I was alone, but yet in that community I was far from alone. Everyone embraced everyone, no matter how goofy, no matter if they looked like a monkey while dancing. There was a unity there, in the name of music, in the spirit of dancing your ass off, for hours on end. I will never, ever, forget that time in my life. It changed me forever.

    BTW, I'm 50 now..lol.

    So to wrap up this story, in 2000-2002, there was a new site, like choon, called mp3.com. By then I had decided to mix dance music with heavy guitar, like Satriani meets prodigy and crystal method. I later became enthralled with house music too, but at the time, there were very few people doing anything like this and I rose to the top of the charts and was in the top 40 out of 30,000 bands, for a very long time. I wrote mp3.com about my gratitude for the 1000s of downloads I was getting a day and they published my email in a guitar center buyer's guide that went out to over a million homes and Guitar Centers, with a selfie I took. By then I had cut my hair and didn't look much like a rock star, but I was able to get endorsed by many companies and for a short time I had a taste of fame. I would get hundreds of emails a day from fans, telling me how great I was. I didn't believe one. Not a single compliment ever went to my head.

    I wasn't done yet. I had miles more to travel before I could play the way I can play now. I still don't think I'm good enough. I never will. That's the fuel I use to keep going. To this day, I write equally as much dance music as I do any other genre. Along the way I became a producer and an audio engineer. I can remember when dance purists said things like" VSTs will never take off because analogue is superior." but my ears new better.
    (to be continued in my next reply)

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    continued.....
    For years I horded every single VST I could get my hands on...fascinated with the sonic palette available to me. I forgot to mention I'm also a huge pink floyd fan, so I was also amazed at tones, that could morph over time (like what we use automation of modulation for these days in dance oriented music) I have watched the world change. When I started the sounds we have all become accustomed to, were only heard underground , but I saw them move into the main stream and from the beginning I knew it would happen.

    I told everyone, that dance music, was the wave of the future, that synthesis would change the musical landscape forever. I often thought of the scene in star wars in the bar, where otherworldly dance music played and the audience laughed at the idea that music would turn into this.....but that was a true prediction of the future, and somehow I knew it.

    Fast forward to today.....6 months ago, I got my first IPAD. I was already heavily into audio manipulation/mangling, glitch tricks and still am. When I realized that the coolest innovations in that technique were involving touchscreens I dived in with my usual obsession. I now predict that this mobile music platform, is the dawn of a new generation of musicians and music.

    To me it is one of the most innovative and remarkable time in history. As a child I could never have dreamed what is possible today...on a fucking IPAD...lol. So, it tickles me to death that you are making full albums and scoff at my question that started this thread. I'm going to be a grandfather of Mobile, touch based music one day. :) I'm flying your flag on every fucking mountain I can find.

    My enthusiasm is hardly matched by anyone who doesn't know what's going on here. You people are my brethren, my musical soul mates, for you have embraced the impossible and turned it into reality...something I have enjoyed now for a very long time. So I may be a newbie here, but I'm not completely fresh behind the ears.....just a late bloomer, as usual, but watch out.....I'm relentless in my obsession to make good music. I'm not important. I'm not a threat. I'm not competitive and I exalt excellence because I'm not threatened by it.

    I have a saying " Your excellence, in no way diminishes mine" and in fact it inspires me and I prefer excellence for inspiration over any desire to be "better" than anyone else, because I've come to realize that art and music are so subjective that some people even think Mozart's music sucks.

    Thank you for indulging me and welcoming me into your club, and my sincere apologies, for any toes my clumsy foot steps on inadvertently, while I'm here. It's never my intention to piss everyone off, because one thing I subscribe to with all my heart is and an acronym I once received from my sister, a fellow raver: PLUR (Peace Love Unity Respect, and another R has since been added for responsibility, IE PLURR) So....if you made it through my story, which I've left out far more than I've told, I appreciate the time you invested that you'll never get back. If I can ever be of any assistance, please let me know.

    Lastly as a musician, I'm a servant. My music is not for me or my ego. It's a gift for other daydreamer's such as myself and a testament to what one can do, if one never listens to naysayers who don't believe in you or your vision.

    www.soundcloud.com/marcpattison (guitar stuff)
    www.soundcloud.com/marcpattson2 (my diverse stuff, including any new songs I record without guitar, now all on an IPAD.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @bedheadproducer , I was hoping you would respond to all this and you did. It seems you are now a true blue iOS devotee and as such will have to absorb some slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, like your friend and the music maker. Like most of us your dreams for iOS are a bit grandiose. Hopefully they will be realized in the near future, but it is a question mark after all.

    Your enthusiasm and goodwill are noted and I hope you realize that the evenhanded and, for the most part, fair minded , thoughtful and enlightening responses you have gotten to your slightly controversial post, are representative of the quality characters who haunt this community. It is a beautiful port in a sometimes stormy sea, and shipwrecked sailors are always welcomed and cared for. Welcome aboard! Why don't you post an iOS creation here. It would round things up quite nicely. And don't be concerned about stirring the pot. All part of the fun!

    wow, such eloquence. I'm impressed. I'm about to tell a long story that is ultimately all about dance music and how I arrived here. Maybe some might indulge me and read it. If you do, you may realize I'm actually kin, and not such a stranger after all. :)

  • Howdy, @bedheadproducer, welcome into the madness.....

    For most of my life I wanted to create my own music. I did what I could but never had the means to record or the time to get serious so I never actually completed any music pieces. Once I got older and things settled down I stumbled onto iOS music making...perfect timing! I make instrumental music so with minimal setup, I was on my way to leaning what I really needed, to learn: basic recording techniques. I have some music theory background and played trumpet and keyboards so I had a good basis the, but all without any desktop music software knowledge.

    In the last 3-4 years I have 5 bandcamp releases with a total of over 50 songs and another 20 music videos on my YouTube channel (although there is some overlap of songs). Plus a collaborative experimental album with Sir Doug Woods (also on bandcamp), and a highly popular original Audiobus forum based international collaboration song/YouTube music video "(Bring Back My) SynthMaster Love" thanks to @LostBoy85 and @eustressor

    Also I have a scattering of tunes on SoundCloud. And a bunch of unreleased material too. And yeah I have a Symphonic piece that's been in the works for 4 years too; LOL. My stuff is 100% iOS produced and with mostly iOS generated sounds (though I use some some hardware keyboard sounds and sometimes pre-made loops).

    There is a lot of 100% iOS made music and a lot of hybrid. I think it'll continue to grow but who knows how much more with all of Apples shenanigans? I hope to incorporate more hardware and desktop stuff with my iOS, but man I badly need a new PC, lol.

  • @bedheadproducer said:
    You're pretty eloquent when your humor font is off.

    I like to read and write so we will be good company. I hope this thread will pull out more like minded members. I come here for inspiration and community. But mostly I get tips on what Apps to buy.

    BUY SYNTHMASTER ONE FOR $12. I was shocked to discover it has Keyboards I like better than Neo Soul Keys Studio because the FX in this Synth App are much better to my tastes. And those FX can be used as AUv3 FX in AUM and Cubasis.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @bedheadproducer , I was hoping you would respond to all this and you did. It seems you are now a true blue iOS devotee and as such will have to absorb some slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, like your friend and the music maker. Like most of us your dreams for iOS are a bit grandiose. Hopefully they will be realized in the near future, but it is a question mark after all.

    Your enthusiasm and goodwill are noted and I hope you realize that the evenhanded and, for the most part, fair minded , thoughtful and enlightening responses you have gotten to your slightly controversial post, are representative of the quality characters who haunt this community. It is a beautiful port in a sometimes stormy sea, and shipwrecked sailors are always welcomed and cared for. Welcome aboard! Why don't you post an iOS creation here. It would round things up quite nicely. And don't be concerned about stirring the pot. All part of the fun!

    ok,
    thanks for the encouragement and kind words. Here is my first ever all ipad composition and recording.
    I apologize if it sucks compared to some of my other works...I'm just getting me feet wet.
    the little shredding section in the middle is not actually guitar, it's my improvising on Geoshred, with no qunatization.

  • That's some cool Joe Satriani style shredding. Very catchy instrumental groove.

    It interesting to see the diversity in the work I've heard so far from Beethoven to Joe Satriani influences. Good music is timeless.

  • @bedheadproducer said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    @bedheadproducer , I was hoping you would respond to all this and you did. It seems you are now a true blue iOS devotee and as such will have to absorb some slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, like your friend and the music maker. Like most of us your dreams for iOS are a bit grandiose. Hopefully they will be realized in the near future, but it is a question mark after all.

    Your enthusiasm and goodwill are noted and I hope you realize that the evenhanded and, for the most part, fair minded , thoughtful and enlightening responses you have gotten to your slightly controversial post, are representative of the quality characters who haunt this community. It is a beautiful port in a sometimes stormy sea, and shipwrecked sailors are always welcomed and cared for. Welcome aboard! Why don't you post an iOS creation here. It would round things up quite nicely. And don't be concerned about stirring the pot. All part of the fun!

    ok,
    thanks for the encouragement and kind words. Here is my first ever all ipad composition and recording.
    I apologize if it sucks compared to some of my other works...I'm just getting me feet wet.
    the little shredding section in the middle is not actually guitar, it's my improvising on Geoshred, with no qunatization.

    Nice guitar playing!!

  • FYI: There's a woman who joins in occasionally here called @Lady_App_titude (clever huh?) that does amazing IOS Production work and is also a really great guitar player. Not so much in the sustained tone style but able to pull off Wes Montgomery/George Benson (Orion's Belt) and some really clever EDM/Tekno tracks. I hope she sees this because she has a backlog of "songs" that would really inspire you.

    She's on SoundCloud using the Lady_App-titude handle and has another for her pre-IOS efforts. You might consider PM'ing her since your on similar levels with respect to doing projects and self-publishing.

    Check out "The Vibe". I think that's her rhythm guitar chops.

  • edited September 2018

    @McDtracy said:
    BUY SYNTHMASTER ONE FOR $12. I was shocked to discover it has Keyboards I like better than Neo Soul Keys Studio because the FX in this Synth App are much better to my tastes. And those FX can be used as AUv3 FX in AUM and Cubasis.

    SM1's layout (3 divisions of Keyboards, Settings and Synth parts horizontally across the screen) is ready for porting to a mobile app. Well-designed from ground up compared to Animoog, Sunrizer, Tornado and a bunch of other apps (because there was no AU concept at the time these apps were designed but still, some apps have iPad and iPhone versions separately :neutral:). Yes, SM1 also installs an FX version alongside the synth just like its desktop app - because it is the same desktop app ported into iOS except for 16 Polyphony as opposed 32 on desktop!

  • edited September 2018

    @bedheadproducer, I was a fan of Pink Flyod, Sting, Dire Straits, Chris Rea, Madonna, Pet Shop Boys, MJ, etc. and Trance/Vocal Trance growing up.

    Kudos to you for some nice melodies here :smile:

    https://soundcloud.com/marcpattison
    https://soundcloud.com/marcpattison2

  • Great music and a good voice. A welcome addition here and in good company. Check out @theconnactic for more sterling guitarism on Creations (btw, I know I encouraged you to post here but we mostly post stuff in the Creations category. But this was totally appropriate IMO). I am a piano improviser, primarily. I just play stuff out and then develop it with a few apps and Cubasis. We seem to share a love of spontaneous creation.

    Your story is a deep one and wonderful to hear about. You are definitely amongst friends. And you have gotten over a thousand views on your first thread. Very propitious!

  • @McDtracy said:

    @Spidericemidas said:
    I do everything within my iPad from start to finish

    What App's are you using for Producing:

    DAW?
    FX?
    Synths?
    Drums?

    For many here I can fill out their answers.
    @LinearLineman

    DAW - Cubasis A big proponent
    FX - Waves IAP's in Cubasis
    Synths - Thor and a lot of Acoustic Sampled (iSymphonic, BeatHawk, iFretLess, ThumbJam)
    Drums - Soft Drummer

    Given your iTunes Music discography I think you'd have very similar tastes. Like an updated IOS version of Tascam Port-a-studio.

    I really enjoy your guitar instrumentals from iTunes Music. I like the singing electric tone quality you get.

    We acoustic instrument types are the minority here compared to those that favor Electronica style performance and composition.
    We need give each other a lot of encouragement to actually produce projects. I guess your looking for like minds so I'd recommend you start with a @thesoundtestroom collaboration with 2 other Forum Members:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=nLeDVmxjLTc

    It doesn't get much better than that for making "finished products". They collaborate sending project files back and forth using cloud file sharing. So, you might find a collaborator here if that appeals to you.

    Hey hey. Sorry! After reading your comments further, I think I've just realised there must be some crossed wires or maybe someone else very coincidentally just happens to be using the same "Spidericemidas" monicker as me for their music.

    I don't have any guitar instrumentals, and I don't have anything on iTunes (not to my knowledge anyway!) My very humble music creations are only on SoundCloud, and are styled mostly around electronic chilled ambient type stuff. Very little guitar. In fact just some very minor acoustic guitar played and sampled from Sample Tank sometimes, and one track where I recorded an electric guitar solo played in Geoshred and imported into Zurich.

    But seeing as you ask. All my stuff is organised, mixed, compressed, EQd and effected inside Korg Gadget, and uploaded straight to SoundCloud. No mastering. Typically Recife, London, Miami, Wolfsburg, Montpellier, Montreal, Chiang Mai, and a LOT of my own loops and sounds made first in other apps such as Sunrizer, Nave, LayR, Spacecraft, Zeeon, Fieldscaper, and my own stems exported from creations in GR-16, Groovebox, Blocs Wave and anything else I can get my hands on, which I chop and import into Korg Gadget via Zurich, Bilbao and Vancouver units. Sometimes I allow imported stuff to carry the delay or reverb over from the app or AU effects chain that it originated from, which adds an alternative ambience to the ones included with Gadget.

    Yes, I am a faithful Patron of Doug Woods (top bloke) @thesoundtestroom. He was kind enough to master one of my Gadget tracks for me a while ago, and to promote a couple of my Sunrizer sound banks which he made available here and on his sites. A little collaboration with Dean Daughters from Electronisounds was great too.

    Sounds like I will have to go check out this other "Spidericemidas" on iTunes then! Hehe.

  • @Spidericemidas said:
    Sounds like I will have to go check out this other "Spidericemidas" on iTunes then! Hehe.

    My mistake! I scrolled to the top of the page to get the handle of the OP and did not realize I was on Page 2.

    The OP is @bedheadproducer and page #2 shows @Spidericemidas.

    Sorry for the confusion. I generally have 1 defect per 2-3 comments so consider the source. For example:

    "Today's Labor Day... get SynthMaster One for $25".

    ERRATA: Labor in the US is tomorrow and SMO is on sale for $11.99 US. @ERRATA would make a nice handle or maybe @Eff-Up

  • wimwim
    edited September 2018

    Same here with the rave thing. My daughter got obsessed and is the type I knew that would figure out ways to sneak off. Rather than fearing to get a call from an emergency room some Saturday night I agreed to take her to shows at the local club and lurk in the back making sure she got home safe.

    I was that old dude in the back everyone assumed was a cop, quietly having mind blown by the music. One can only stand so much classic / prog rock after 30 years. It was just what I needed to blow up that box I couldn’t stand any more.

    I have yet to very successfully meld the new and the old. A few things along the lines of the Floozies have worked out OK. Guitar chops + glitch + funk. But admittedly it’s tough workin’ guitars into rave worthy stuff. :D

  • edited September 2018

    @bedheadproducer said:
    thanks for the encouragement and kind words. Here is my first ever all ipad composition and recording.
    I apologize if it sucks compared to some of my other works...I'm just getting me feet wet.
    the little shredding section in the middle is not actually guitar, it's my improvising on Geoshred, with no qunatization.

    Wow! Absolutely brilliant work! Love it! Especially the Guitars! 🎶👍
    That an outstanding iPad track!

    Im very happy you joined this exceptional forum. Feel very welcome @bedheadproducer !

    Thanks a lot for giving us an insight of your musical way up to know. Hope you will feel very fine here. I think that’s an amazing community here! 😊

    Many greetings from Berlin / Germany!

  • @bedheadproducer – I read it all, every word.

    You’re about our age, more or less, and it’s always interesting how we find ourselves here via an iPad or iPhone and some synth apps at this time of our lives.

    In photography there’s a similar thing, the youngsters have all the big impressive gear, loads of it, but people our age don’t want to be carrying such a big and heavy bag up a hill, we home in on little rangefinder film cameras and one lens, maybe two (neither of which are zooms). It’s just sensible, really.

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