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Beatmaker - exporting to separate tracks for mixing in auria
Hi all, does anybody else here do this? What's the easiest way to so this?
Please tell me there's an easier way to do this within beatmaker. First I make a simple beat on one track that has maybe two kicks, snare, hi hat and a sample. But in order to export to separate tracks, I have to create 4 new tracks, copy and paste the first track and then manually delete all the midi notes for everything else except for the main element. Example: for the snare track, I'll go in and delete the two kicks, hihat and sample. For the hihat track, I have to go in and manually delete the snare, two kicks and sample and so forth. Just so I can separate the tracks for mixing later in auria.
Anybody have any solutions/easier workarounds? Do I just have to get used to creating new tracks when composing beats?
Thanks in advance!
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I'm begging, anybody else do this? It's taken me 30 min just to transfer one simple beat, exported to separate tracks, into Auria. I have absolutely no more energy and mood to actually create after this process.
I haven't used BM2 enough to answer...but If the drums don't have to be BM2 then I believe DM-1 exports seperate tracks. Just thought I'd throw that in.
thnx spookyzoo!
yeah dm1 does do that. Only problem is you cant use your own samples (even though they say you can. some glitch)
Can't you do that and then drumagog it (he says in ignorance, to be fair). Probably more work though!
Thnx Ian, very good point but in addition to Drumagoh, I was hoping to make use of these kick samples i had gotten from imaschine, impc as well as some of the newer kicks that beatmaker released a month ago that sound decent.
I guess I could also try to import those specific samples into drumagog (just remembered synthandsom had asked me if this was possible) but ive never used that process before so am unsure how feasible that is. More importantly though, the way the specific samples sound directly influence the way i play/compose a drumbeat. For example, if ive got a loud boomy 808 kick with tons of reverb, i might need to only play it once in a measure to feel it's presence but replace that sample with a regular kick, will sound thin in comparison. Not against the idea, but just trying to streamline this workflow that is fairly common in professional mixes.
Thnx for input though
no problem. PS are congratulations in order (just seen your avatar)?
Haha no, that is not me. That's Robert smith, lead singer of the cure. Although thnx.
no, I meant the one in white!
Can you use midibridge to filter the midi notes to drive whatever sound source you want, then create the four separate tracks that way?
Hi. You can export separate bm2 drum tracks like you want to without all that hassle. All you gotta do is when your creating a drum track you select the drum machine. Switch to sequencer view and in the top left-ish corner there is a + sign. Press this button and you will have a choice of adding a new track for any instruments that have already been chosen. So..... If you select the drum machine it will add a new track under that which will route to the drum machine and it will have all the pad names down the side in the piano roll. You can do as many of these as you like I think. At least 16 anyway for all the pads. Now all you gotta do is say put your kicks in one track, snare in another, hats in another. When you export you will get separate tracks. Hope this helps
+1 for Oldman's suggestion. This is how I do it. Then I export and import using Dropbox usually, but then I have a pretty fast intwebs.
+1 for Oldman too.
Easy and effective!
Use Nanostudio.
exporting stems is default part of the app. Sorry, unhelpful.
When I record my guitar into nanostudio and try to....oh...wait...nevermind.
Touché though he's making beats with samples so...
Exporting stems should absolutely be in BM2 though, now that I think about it, so fair point imo.
Another thing you can do is mute all the pads, except for the drum part you wish to export, then mixdown. Works great except if you using your midi to control an external source..
@oldman - many thanks for the alternative solution. Much appreciated.
If this is the only other way, I'll just have to accept it but it really isn't ideal. I'm counting 7different steps before I can get to next drum part which when you're feeling the groove and in a creative vibe, is annoying and takes away from the most important part of music, the feeling.
From the drum pads:
1) Tap home screen icon in upper left hand corner
2) Tap sequencer button
3) Tap + sign
4) Choose track type
5) Enable record button on new track (which automatically disables recording on previous track)
6) Tap home screen
7) Go back to drum pads
Now multiply this by 10 on an iphone and you can see it's not the smoothest. Anyways it is what it is.
Thanks again guys
@checkrath - i'll try your idea out as well. seems time consuming as well to export one track at a time when it would be nice to export them all at once
oh sorry, make that 5 steps, not 7. You can add all the tracks in beginning. That does help a little
I wonder if there is there a way to setup the tracks upfront so that only kicks are routed to say track 1, snares to track 2, etc so that there is no need to keep switching back and forth to sequencer area? I really dont want to have to leave drum pad section when i'm jamming out a beat as it removes me from my flow. thnx in advance
If you're beat isn't that long you could copy it for times, solo the part you want as it happens, record/paste into auria, make 4 slices, realign the tracks. If the beat is 4 minutes long, that'd blow but if you have a one minute beat, might not be that bad.
Hey, + for @syrupcore that's brilliant
For me, the easiest way to do this is:
1.record the original drum track on one track (bass drum, snare, and hi-hat, for example) on the drum machine
2. go to the sequencer screen, click the plus sign on the drum track that I just made and duplicate the track a few times.
3. rename each of these drum tracks (bass drum, snare, hi-hat)
4. double-click into the bass drum track. Select the snare and hi-hat from the far left on the piano roll. When you select from the far left, it automatically selects all of the midi notes that were played on that note. That makes it easy to quickly erase the other drum parts. (For me, the left margin selection is the big time saver.)
5. Erase the selected notes.
6. Repeat the process for the other created drum tracks (the ones that were duplicated from the original.) For those tracks, erase the all but the snare drum or the hi-hat, respectively.
7. You now have three separate midi tracks from the original content.
If you really want to be safe, leave the original copy and make the editing copies below it. I usually do this, to avoid wiping out my million $ drum parts :-)
I find that this method usually takes less than a 1-2 minutes, even w/ complex, multi drum parts, after some practice, due to the left side selection method.
Hope this is helpful...
EDITED FOR # FORMAT
tried to edit previous post for better # formatting, but... How do I do that?
http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_lists.asp
There are probably easier ways, but it's what I know. So...
The Stream Byter module in MidiBridge works great for this...
N9 24 = X0
N9 25 = X1
N9 26 = X2
N9 27 = X3
N9 28 = X4
N9 29 = X5
This splits midi notes 24-29 (hexidecimal) coming in on midi channel 10 to midi channels 1-6.
@boone51, thanks.
I should have used the Preview button...
@funjunkie27, this thread is inspiring me to get my MidiBridge chops together. I've been putting it off for too long... Thanks for the info!
Stupid question...........
How do you direct your post at somebody with the use of @?
Eg @gjcyrus.
Do you just type it and it comes out green, or is there a method?
Stupid answer. Seen my post.
@gjcyrus
You are right mate, it's a bit of a drag. Pretty long winded. Theoretically should be easy. Does kinda ruin your flow. I tried recording the tracks straight into auria, muting each one, mind numbing. Wanna right tunes with crazy chopped up beats, all the tools are there it just don't work very well.
If you're worried about losing your flow, why not do all the creative stuff first using the composite drum track and only do all the tedious splitting and exporting of individual drum parts at the end of the session? That way you can come back to it the next day with fresh ears to do your final mixing session.