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Cubasis 2 on sale right now, 25usd. Would you recommend me this app if i use garageband and logic?

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  • I know I’ll never see it but in my dreams I wish Cubasis could export to Apple Loops a la Bm3 so I could export straight to Logic , Auv3 and all. I know, I know.. It would defeat the purpose but the fact is that many of us will just never own Cubase..

  • Hi @LFS ! I had to laugh. Someone finally got under your skin! It must be tough to always be unuffled when people criticize your much loved product. You do it extremely well, but nice to see the unrestrained human side as well. @kv331audio_bulent is also a cool customer when it comes to handling negative remarks. I admire the forbearance you both have as I am much more reactive to criticism. Hey, and speaking of complaints... Please get some great acoustics as an in app so I never have to leave Cubasis!

  • edited September 2018

    @LFS said:

    @dermichl said:
    If you rely on Ableton Link, NO. If you rely on tight sync while looping a song section, NO. If you want a clear roadmap, NO. If you want user requests to be implemented in a timely fashion, NO. If you need your DAW to slave to an external source, NO.

    Glad to see you're up and well, with the same complaints year after year...
    Not to offend you, but why didn't you ask Apple for a refund if you're that unsatisfied with the app for so long?

    Best,
    Lars

    Yeah, all‘s well over here. If it was possible to get a refund i certainly would have asked for it. But i bought it looong ago. So no joy - neither a properly working app with crucial features added ( it was 2 years ago that Ableton Link was asked for over at your own forum, wasn‘t it ) - nor a refund.

  • While you may find that Cubasis doesn't serve YOUR needs. It is clearly is not accurate or fair to say that it is not a properly working app. Many many many people love it and think it is great. That doesn't mean that you have to love it.

    For some people, it is the right app. For some people, it isn't the right app.

    Refunds are possible if asked for in a timely fashion.

    @dermichl said:

    @LFS said:

    @dermichl said:
    If you rely on Ableton Link, NO. If you rely on tight sync while looping a song section, NO. If you want a clear roadmap, NO. If you want user requests to be implemented in a timely fashion, NO. If you need your DAW to slave to an external source, NO.

    Glad to see you're up and well, with the same complaints year after year...
    Not to offend you, but why didn't you ask Apple for a refund if you're that unsatisfied with the app for so long?

    Best,
    Lars

    Yeah, all‘s well over here. If it was possible to get a refund i certainly would have asked for it. But i bought it looong ago. So no joy - neither a properly working app with crucial features added ( it was 2 years ago that Ableton Link was asked for over at your own forum, wasn‘t it ) - nor a refund.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    Refunds are possible if asked for in a timely fashion.

    @dermichl said:

    @LFS said:

    @dermichl said:
    If you rely on Ableton Link, NO. If you rely on tight sync while looping a song section, NO. If you want a clear roadmap, NO. If you want user requests to be implemented in a timely fashion, NO. If you need your DAW to slave to an external source, NO.

    Glad to see you're up and well, with the same complaints year after year...
    Not to offend you, but why didn't you ask Apple for a refund if you're that unsatisfied with the app for so long?

    Best,
    Lars

    Yeah, all‘s well over here. If it was possible to get a refund i certainly would have asked for it. But i bought it looong ago. So no joy - neither a properly working app with crucial features added ( it was 2 years ago that Ableton Link was asked for over at your own forum, wasn‘t it ) - nor a refund.

    Not adding to the Cubasis discussion (I don’t own it) but a small point of clarification: refunds are at Apple’s discretion and they sometimes say no. I tried to refund an iPhone app called Pulse because my fingers were too fat to use the controls (lol) but Apple were having none of it. I also tried to refund Gestrument v1 because I found out about the new Pro version literally a day after buying it but again, they refused. I’m not complaining because I have picked up so many bargains and have also been gifted apps but just so people understand that refunds are not guaranteed.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    ... It is clearly is not accurate or fair to say that it is not a properly working app.

    The issue i‘m refering to (sync not properly working when in loop mode) was acknowledged by Lars!
    And i can‘t help it but Ableton Link is not there (requests started 2 years ago).

    This is NOT a matter of love and hate but a matter of not functioning as i need it...

  • @dermichl said:
    If you want user requests to be implemented in a timely fashion, NO.

    I didn't know there was a subscription option to Cubasis in which all user-requests are guaranteed to be implemented free of charge "in a timely fashion"... :o

  • Two simple truths:
    1. Nothing is perfect
    2. There will always be naysayers

  • @Telstar5 said:
    I know I’ll never see it but in my dreams I wish Cubasis could export to Apple Loops a la Bm3 so I could export straight to Logic , Auv3 and all. I know, I know.. It would defeat the purpose but the fact is that many of us will just never own Cubase..

    I may be biased, by I own Cubase, Cubasis, Auria Pro, and pretty every daw they make for the IPAD. Here is a video of a track I did last night in Cubasis, 26 tracks, no horsepower hiccups at all. Cubasis is the easiest to use and comes with a ton of loops, samples, drum machines and synths. Here's the proof:

    All drums were done using internal cubasis stuff , so is the bass. All the DJ effects and filters too.

  • edited September 2018

    @bedheadproducer ...That's so interesting and fun, Marc. How do you get the tracks to display like that? Makes me wonder where is your head at?
    You don't make it easy on the rest of us 👿😈

    Wonderful display for tired old malfunctioning Cubasis.

  • edited September 2018

    @LinearLineman said:
    @bedheadproducer ...That's so interesting and fun, Marc. How do you get the tracks to display like that? Makes me wonder where is your head at?
    You don't make it easy on the rest of us 👿😈

    Wonderful display for tired old malfunctioning Cubasis.

    ok, I'l have to admit that Cubasis crashed on me 3 times during this..however, while it's big brother cubase crashes a lot less but when it does I lose whatever I did for the last 10 minutes forever and have to recreate my work. With Cubasis, because it saves automatically and I never lost a shred of work and was up and running again in seconds. Cubasis biggest problem in my opinion is that the more tracks you have, the more often it gets certain tracks out of sync, forcing you to go back a few measure to restart the song back in sync. I've never had this happen with any other DAW.
    On this video i used the built in screen record feature that al ios 11 devices now have. For my other videos I use a piece of software called reflector, where it shows up on my giant flatscreen, using my bedroom pc and it streams the video over wifi to my pc, which has way more storage space. On the ipad if you run out of space.bye bye video. I have always learned to work around the quirks in software, but of course it can be frustrating, but by your next birthday, I'l wager that bug won't exist anymore..keeping fingers crossed.
    Often I find it's quicker to screen record to my pc and separate the audio, than it is to export, share and then move the audio through 3 programs just to get it on my pc for video editing. Also, I have a screen recording program on my pc as well, so when I do covers, I find a youtube video of it with no vocals and record it , a video with just the vocals, no music, rip the audio(so I can analyze them separately and use them as a starting point.and I transfer all large files between my ios devices and my pc, via wifi and a software that's free called "Send Anywhere" since I don't own a mac desktop and itunes is to cumbersome. So is plugging in a cable. I don't master my songs on an IPAD. Wavelab is just too easy compared to anything yet on IOS. But just because i think this is the way of the future..mobile recording..doesn't mean I won't use my pc as a tool for storing large files and doing things the IPAD can't yet. As long as I"m at home I don't need to carry my PCs anywhere.lol. So they are there and handy when I need them. most of my surfing is done on a desktop..when I'm home.I like the bigger screen.
    Lastly, I generally push software as hard as I can until it becomes unreasonable to use much longer. Then I figure out ways to lighten the cpu load and start to wrap up my project. These limitations generally serve to keep me in check and start to go back to "less is more". Worse comes to worse, I'll bounce everything down to less tracks and start a new song and finish that way. I stil can go back and raise or lower tracks with my original song files.so it's not all that bad, especially when you get to the point where you don't ever have to go back and remix anything. That just takes practice.

  • edited September 2018

    @dermichl said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    ... It is clearly is not accurate or fair to say that it is not a properly working app.

    The issue i‘m refering to (sync not properly working when in loop mode) was acknowledged by Lars!
    And i can‘t help it but Ableton Link is not there (requests started 2 years ago).

    This is NOT a matter of love and hate but a matter of not functioning as i need it...

    In IT, everything goes by priority and severity. When there are a lot of pending features, everything cannot be implemented simultaneously - that's humanly impossible. I don't use Ableton or Link and not sure how many users do (majority?) but I'm sure it is on their roadmap. Steinberg knows how to prioritize tasks well with their decades of managing successful commercial projects - which is why their apps are stable, robust and reliable. They may be secretive like Apple and lag behind a bit (like Apple) but when they introduce something, they nail it right (like Apple). They are cautious not to push the boundaries of iOS' limitations that would make Cubasis to crap out and become unusable - like some apps did.

    They did not force us to buy Cubasis 2 or 2.5 as new versions of the app like other devs did? Those versions were all free to existing users!

  • @Telstar5 said:
    I know I’ll never see it but in my dreams I wish Cubasis could export to Apple Loops a la Bm3 so I could export straight to Logic , Auv3 and all. I know, I know.. It would defeat the purpose but the fact is that many of us will just never own Cubase..

    btw, none of the other DAW are complete either or do what you wish. Cubasis has the smallest learning curve. Auria tries to be more full featured at twice the cost but crashes way more and is just not nearly as intuitive. Also what' is wrong with creating audio stem files, if you must finish in logic? Not everything needs to run through plugins in real time all the time.

  • @bedheadproducer , sorry to nag, but enquiring minds want to know.... How do you get that display up on CB? I thought you just got one format till I saw yours. Thanks.

  • @MobileMusic said:

    @dermichl said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    ... It is clearly is not accurate or fair to say that it is not a properly working app.

    The issue i‘m refering to (sync not properly working when in loop mode) was acknowledged by Lars!
    And i can‘t help it but Ableton Link is not there (requests started 2 years ago).

    This is NOT a matter of love and hate but a matter of not functioning as i need it...

    In IT, everything goes by priority and severity. When there are a lot of pending features, everything cannot be implemented simultaneously - that's humanly impossible. I don't use Ableton or Link and not sure how many users do (majority?) but I'm sure it is on their roadmap. Steinberg knows how to prioritize tasks well with their decades of managing successful commercial projects - which is why their apps are stable, robust and reliable. They may be secretive like Apple and lag behind a bit (like Apple) but when they introduce something, they nail it right (like Apple). They are cautious not to push the boundaries of iOS' limitations that would make Cubasis to crap out and become unusable - like some apps did.

    They did not force us to buy Cubasis 2 or 2.5 as new versions of the app like other devs did? Those versions were all free to existing users!

    Well said.

  • I bought cubasis at full price and would do it again with no regrets.let just hope a new update comes soon with some new feature/s .love it

  • edited September 2018

    @LinearLineman said:
    @bedheadproducer , sorry to nag, but enquiring minds want to know.... How do you get that display up on CB? I thought you just got one format till I saw yours. Thanks.

    That looks like the vertical pinch zoom on the track names.

    Great track by the way! Made me want to eat Pringles, yum! :)

  • @AudioGus ... vertical, pinch, zoom... Isn't that what Ralph always yelled at Alice? How does one get that up on the screen, if I may ask?

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @AudioGus ... vertical, pinch, zoom... Isn't that what Ralph always yelled at Alice? How does one get that up on the screen, if I may ask?

    One of these days Lineman... Just squeeze with your thumb and index finger on the names of the tracks and they will all scale down.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @bedheadproducer , sorry to nag, but enquiring minds want to know.... How do you get that display up on CB? I thought you just got one format till I saw yours. Thanks.

    ok, first off, this a is a low rez video. I didn't want to wait for youtube to process a higher rez video. Secondly, to scren record on a n ios device that is capable of screen recording , Ie ios 10 and above I believe.you have to go in the settings to control center and turn on that option. Then on my ipad i access that record button in the control center by clicking the home button twice quickly. If you want also record a microphone at the same time as the internal sounds, you hold down the screen record button for 4 seconds and a new option will pop up. on and iphone you swipe diagonally from the corner to access the control center. Then when you are done, don'tforget the to stop the recording. then it wil l save to your photos after about 5 seconds and a notice will pop up that it's been saved. my default resolution is pretty high.like the highest, but that takes up a lot of files size

  • edited September 2018

    @LinearLineman said:
    @AudioGus ... vertical, pinch, zoom... Isn't that what Ralph always yelled at Alice? How does one get that up on the screen, if I may ask?

    Is that what you mean?

  • Thanks @AudioGus and @bedheadproducer, both those tips are very valuable to me!

  • Oh... yes . I didn’t see what you meant . It took me a while to discover that tracks can be pinched so you can see all tracks . I accidentally did it after seeing Doug from the soundtestroom have a very squashed group of tracks and I was wondering how he did it as well and then I stumbled across it and have since forgotten that at one time I also didn’t know how to do that . Sorry that I didn’t understand your question at first

  • @bedheadproducer ,

    On this video i used the built in screen record feature that al ios 11 devices now have. For my other videos I use a piece of software called reflector, where it shows up on my giant flatscreen, using my bedroom pc and it streams the video over wifi to my pc, which has way more storage space.

    Streaming video with apps like Reflector, WiFi, Bluetooth results with lag and sync issues.

  • @MobileMusic said:
    @bedheadproducer ,

    On this video i used the built in screen record feature that al ios 11 devices now have. For my other videos I use a piece of software called reflector, where it shows up on my giant flatscreen, using my bedroom pc and it streams the video over wifi to my pc, which has way more storage space.

    Streaming video with apps like Reflector, WiFi, Bluetooth results with lag and sync issues.

    yes, so it's not good for anything that needs to by controlled in real time with no latency. So if I'm playing synth sounds and trying to make a video of that, I use the internal screen record....or film it with a camera, which I've done briefly but not often because it requires stands and the hands can obscure the view of the screen....But if there is something that just requires me to hit play....or when the lag doesn't matter, like playing an audio file in audio share....then I use reflector. The latency only matters when skill is needed that requires instant feedback to be done correctly ...like playing a touch synth or geoshred or Ifrettless....or DJ apps like the novation loop playing stuff like keystation and bloks wave. Unfortunately there is not a way to split audio on the Ipad, so it can run on bluetooth and hardware at the same time that I know of, otherwise I could broadcast and capture and also listen on headphones with no latency. If there is a work around for this....please tell me!!!!

  • @bedheadproducer said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    I know I’ll never see it but in my dreams I wish Cubasis could export to Apple Loops a la Bm3 so I could export straight to Logic , Auv3 and all. I know, I know.. It would defeat the purpose but the fact is that many of us will just never own Cubase..

    I may be biased, by I own Cubase, Cubasis, Auria Pro, and pretty every daw they make for the IPAD. Here is a video of a track I did last night in Cubasis, 26 tracks, no horsepower hiccups at all. Cubasis is the easiest to use and comes with a ton of loops, samples, drum machines and synths. Here's the proof:

    All drums were done using internal cubasis stuff , so is the bass. All the DJ effects and filters too.

    I've just uploaded a new song video created on Cubasis & SynthMaster One to YouTube :smile:

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/28599/tollywoods-hit-song-of-august-on-cubasis-and-synthmaster-one

  • @Samu said:

    @LFS said:
    Hi all,

    Here is the information about the current flash sale, more news to follow soon...
    We are very glad to read so much nice comments about Cubasis here!

    Happy weekend everyone...
    Lars

    Cubasis 2 $24.99/27.99€ (Reg. $49.99/54.99€)

    Cubasis In-App Purchases
    Waves Plug-in Bundle IAP $9.99/10.99€ (Reg. $19.99/21.99€)
    Classic Machines IAP $3.99/4.49€ (Reg. $6.99/7.99€)
    FX Pack 1 IAP $3.99/4.49€ (Reg. $6.99/7.99€)
    FX Pack 2 IAP $3.99/4.49€ (Reg. $6.99/7.99€)

    Nice, I do understand that you can not comment on the status or features of an unreleased update but at least a hint if there will be new IAPs when it drops would be nice so I can go out and get some gift-cards and be ready for them ;) (As a recovering app-o-holic I do try to keep my app spendings at the minimum and with no registered visa-card and limited store-credits I'm starting to be able to keep it all under control).

    Hi Samu,

    The 2.6 update went online just recently.
    Hope you like it... :)

    Best,
    Lars

  • Has any iOS DAW implemented Link? I would imagine it's a non-trivial request.

  • @LFS said:

    Hi Samu,

    The 2.6 update went online just recently.
    Hope you like it... :)

    I'll be downloading it the moment it shows up in the Swedish AppStore(it's not there yet).
    Will also be going full on iOS12 later this evening on my Air 2...

    Fullscreen AUv3 looks nice in the demo video!

    Will check out how the keyboard on/off toggling works when in fullscreen view since not all fullscreen AUv3's provide their own keyboard.(Yamaha FM Essentials being one of them).

    One idea here would be to miniaturise the Cubasis keyboard and have it at the bottom of the screen (Similar to what Model 15 does when minimising it's keyboard) and still give those plug-ins that support arbitrary scaling all the sapce that's left on the screen :)

    Also being able to have the keyboard present (and routed to the 'main' AUv3 Instrument of a track) when editing the AUv3 effects of a track are could be one thing to consider.

    I'm quite used to both AUM and ApeMatrix and their multi-window approach to AUv3's including the midi-routing options they provide.

    I'll mostly be looking for stuff that is not mentioned in the release notes ;)

    Cheers & Thanks for the update (When it finally drops).
    /Samuel

  • Update in UK store now.

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