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Grooverider GR-16 Tips And Tricks Megathread!

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  • CME xkey here too… actually the CME and the EC4 from Faderfox is the killer combo .

  • @dav30383 said:

    @Samu said:

    @dav30383 said:
    Here the mystery is revealed, any key only plays on fucking channel 1! They should give the possibility to change the channel to s
    Now the mystery is revealed, any key only plays on fucking channel 1! They should give you the ability to change the channel as needed, assholes

    Akai midi-controllers are real sh*t when it comes to midi configurability, no quick way to change the midi-channel...
    Even the latest mk3 lineup suffers from this so for me I will never buy anything from Akai ever again (I have the LPK25 and MPK Mini Mk2).

    Currently my main controller is the CME XKey which has been with me for ages…

    I tried to reach out to Akai ages ago but they showed zero interest in adding midi channel change to the devices via firmware update…

    GR-16 does have amazing built-in support for the Novation LaunchPadPro Mk3…

    Yes yes, I agree that the GR16 is perfect and solid, it's just that it doesn't have a proper sound system (and I bought all the banks), that's why I wanted to use the GR16 as a "controller" and Korg Gadget Like synth! But would the same problem arise with AUM?

    I prefer to use one shots, much simpler.

    Also the synth engine is no joke, and with wavetables you can also get a whole new world of sounds.

  • @cokomairena said:

    @dav30383 said:

    @Samu said:

    @dav30383 said:
    Here the mystery is revealed, any key only plays on fucking channel 1! They should give the possibility to change the channel to s
    Now the mystery is revealed, any key only plays on fucking channel 1! They should give you the ability to change the channel as needed, assholes

    Akai midi-controllers are real sh*t when it comes to midi configurability, no quick way to change the midi-channel...
    Even the latest mk3 lineup suffers from this so for me I will never buy anything from Akai ever again (I have the LPK25 and MPK Mini Mk2).

    Currently my main controller is the CME XKey which has been with me for ages…

    I tried to reach out to Akai ages ago but they showed zero interest in adding midi channel change to the devices via firmware update…

    GR-16 does have amazing built-in support for the Novation LaunchPadPro Mk3…

    Yes yes, I agree that the GR16 is perfect and solid, it's just that it doesn't have a proper sound system (and I bought all the banks), that's why I wanted to use the GR16 as a "controller" and Korg Gadget Like synth! But would the same problem arise with AUM?

    I prefer to use one shots, much simpler.

    Also the synth engine is no joke, and with wavetables you can also get a whole new world of sounds.

    I'm not saying it's a joke, on the contrary, but it's still a mono-oscillator synthesis engine, it's a shame that the project was completely abandoned, it could have really made a difference

  • @dav30383 said:

    @cokomairena said:

    @dav30383 said:

    @Samu said:

    @dav30383 said:
    Here the mystery is revealed, any key only plays on fucking channel 1! They should give the possibility to change the channel to s
    Now the mystery is revealed, any key only plays on fucking channel 1! They should give you the ability to change the channel as needed, assholes

    Akai midi-controllers are real sh*t when it comes to midi configurability, no quick way to change the midi-channel...
    Even the latest mk3 lineup suffers from this so for me I will never buy anything from Akai ever again (I have the LPK25 and MPK Mini Mk2).

    Currently my main controller is the CME XKey which has been with me for ages…

    I tried to reach out to Akai ages ago but they showed zero interest in adding midi channel change to the devices via firmware update…

    GR-16 does have amazing built-in support for the Novation LaunchPadPro Mk3…

    Yes yes, I agree that the GR16 is perfect and solid, it's just that it doesn't have a proper sound system (and I bought all the banks), that's why I wanted to use the GR16 as a "controller" and Korg Gadget Like synth! But would the same problem arise with AUM?

    I prefer to use one shots, much simpler.

    Also the synth engine is no joke, and with wavetables you can also get a whole new world of sounds.

    I'm not saying it's a joke, on the contrary, but it's still a mono-oscillator synthesis engine, it's a shame that the project was completely abandoned, it could have really made a difference

    It wasn’t abandoned in the sense you imply. It was completed. The developer implemented what he set out to implement. It is an impressively performant piece of software that recreates the electribe like workflow it was meant to capture. It arrived at what the developer felt was a completed state and he moved on to other projects.

    If it doesn’t do what you want, you might want to look at apps more in line with what you want.

  • UPDATE: I FUCKING DONE IT!!! You need to create 8 programs on the Akai Mini MK3 with your PC (1 for each pad of the keyboard), where you can specify the midi channel to play!

  • @dav30383 said:

    @cokomairena said:

    @dav30383 said:

    @Samu said:

    @dav30383 said:
    Here the mystery is revealed, any key only plays on fucking channel 1! They should give the possibility to change the channel to s
    Now the mystery is revealed, any key only plays on fucking channel 1! They should give you the ability to change the channel as needed, assholes

    Akai midi-controllers are real sh*t when it comes to midi configurability, no quick way to change the midi-channel...
    Even the latest mk3 lineup suffers from this so for me I will never buy anything from Akai ever again (I have the LPK25 and MPK Mini Mk2).

    Currently my main controller is the CME XKey which has been with me for ages…

    I tried to reach out to Akai ages ago but they showed zero interest in adding midi channel change to the devices via firmware update…

    GR-16 does have amazing built-in support for the Novation LaunchPadPro Mk3…

    Yes yes, I agree that the GR16 is perfect and solid, it's just that it doesn't have a proper sound system (and I bought all the banks), that's why I wanted to use the GR16 as a "controller" and Korg Gadget Like synth! But would the same problem arise with AUM?

    I prefer to use one shots, much simpler.

    Also the synth engine is no joke, and with wavetables you can also get a whole new world of sounds.

    I'm not saying it's a joke, on the contrary, but it's still a mono-oscillator synthesis engine, it's a shame that the project was completely abandoned, it could have really made a difference

    It’s not abandoned, it’s completed 😅

  • it's complete, and I actually really like it, and now that I've solved my problem I'm even happier!

  • Good evening! But a question: I haven't yet fully understood how to time-stretch audio loops, or is it not possible on the GR16? Thank you!

  • @dav30383 said:
    Good evening! But a question: I haven't yet fully understood how to time-stretch audio loops, or is it not possible on the GR16? Thank you!

    If you load and exact loop you can use the slice mode

  • @cokomairena said:

    @dav30383 said:
    Good evening! But a question: I haven't yet fully understood how to time-stretch audio loops, or is it not possible on the GR16? Thank you!

    If you load and exact loop you can use the slice mode

    Ah, beautiful! I didn't really understand this function, so I messed around with it a bit! Ah, one more thing, but does "Jump" work instead? What exactly is it for?

  • in fact the "slice" function works well, but I noticed that on some samples the tempo of the sample goes very fast, even though the "root" note is used, why?

  • edited February 2024

    @cokomairena said:

    @dav30383 said:
    Good evening! But a question: I haven't yet fully understood how to time-stretch audio loops, or is it not possible on the GR16? Thank you!

    If you load and exact loop you can use the slice mode

    Nice.. now if only we can get the Jump button ‘to off’, on release of the pads (resynced to tempo)… Thanks..

  • I have problems with the loops, sometimes they are perfect with the slice, but most of them sound "speeded up", I then have to put a lower note in the slide step editor (from C5 to C3)

  • @dav30383 said:
    I have problems with the loops, sometimes they are perfect with the slice, but most of them sound "speeded up", I then have to put a lower note in the slide step editor (from C5 to C3)

    That’s likely a problem with the sample size. You need to tell it how many beats it is

  • @FordTimeLord said:

    @dav30383 said:
    I have problems with the loops, sometimes they are perfect with the slice, but most of them sound "speeded up", I then have to put a lower note in the slide step editor (from C5 to C3)

    That’s likely a problem with the sample size. You need to tell it how many beats it is

    Azz! I hadn't noticed ha ha ha, I'll try it later 😆 thank you!

  • @RajahP said:

    @cokomairena said:

    @dav30383 said:
    Good evening! But a question: I haven't yet fully understood how to time-stretch audio loops, or is it not possible on the GR16? Thank you!

    If you load and exact loop you can use the slice mode


    Nice.. now if only we can get the Jump button ‘to off’, on release of the pads (resynced to tempo)… Thanks..

    I wonder if this can be achieved via midi somehow…

  • @cokomairena said:

    @RajahP said:

    @cokomairena said:

    @dav30383 said:
    Good evening! But a question: I haven't yet fully understood how to time-stretch audio loops, or is it not possible on the GR16? Thank you!

    If you load and exact loop you can use the slice mode


    Nice.. now if only we can get the Jump button ‘to off’, on release of the pads (resynced to tempo)… Thanks..

    I wonder if this can be achieved via midi somehow…

    Don’t have a clue… maybe some of the experts can chime in here..

  • @FordTimeLord said:

    @dav30383 said:
    I have problems with the loops, sometimes they are perfect with the slice, but most of them sound "speeded up", I then have to put a lower note in the slide step editor (from C5 to C3)

    That’s likely a problem with the sample size. You need to tell it how many beats it is

    It wasn't a problem of bars, but of step lengths, sometimes they have to be 1 long and other times 2, it depends on the loop

  • here the GR16 "shoots" the sequences but plays PreSonus StudioONE 6 on Windows :-D :-D First steps, but I think it's the right path to success haha ​​ha

  • I was sure GR16 had a feature where it would match the mute states of each channel when you switched between patterns, did i imagine this? Cant seem to find it in the settings…..

    I mean that if your current pattern has channels 1, 3 and 5 active and the rest muted, these would remain active and the rest muted when you switch to the next pattern….despite what active/mute channels you had originally saved in the next pattern

    Maybe i am misremembering….🤔

  • @drewinnit said:
    I was sure GR16 had a feature where it would match the mute states of each channel when you switched between patterns, did i imagine this? Cant seem to find it in the settings…..

    I mean that if your current pattern has channels 1, 3 and 5 active and the rest muted, these would remain active and the rest muted when you switch to the next pattern….despite what active/mute channels you had originally saved in the next pattern

    Maybe i am misremembering….🤔

    It has a song mode where you can select different mute states

    But what you say doesn’t exists afaik

  • @cokomairena thanks, I think I must have got confused with a hardware groovebox…was thinking if i held shift and switched patterns the mute states would hold….probably my old Digitakt or Machinedrum

  • Hi everyone,

    TL, DR: I want to use the arpeggiator with a note set (or chord) sent from another AUv3 through midi. I doesn't work and I'm wondering if someone knows how to achieve something similar.

    More detail:

    I use the arpeggiator in Groove Rider to generate a rhythmic patterns on which I can then build a melody. My workflow in the standalone app looks like this:

    • First I look for an arpeggiator pattern I like (among the 50 available in GR, which correspond to different rhythmic patterns), usually with just a single note that repeats according to the pattern.
    • Then I look for a set of note to be played on this pattern. For this I press the notes on the pads and play with the touch pad in ARPEG mode until I find something I Iike.

    What I'd like to do is to reuse a rhythmic pattern from the arpeggiator and apply it to different note sets I have predefined, in order to create different melodies following the same rhythmic pattern.

    To do this, the ideal would be to use an AUv3 sequencer (different from the GR one, e.g. I use Helium) in order to specify and store my note sets in the form of long chords. Then I could define different ones in this sequencer, send the midi notes to the GR AUv3 through a DAW (I use Loopy Pro as a DAW) and play with the GR arpeggiator to find the right pattern.

    The problem is that the arpeggiator seems to only work with note sets played on the pads inside GR. Notes coming from an external midi do not play as expected in the arpeggiator. Actually, even a chord in the GR step sequencer doesn't work with the arpeggiator, only notes or chords manually triggered from the pads.

    This makes the workflow much less flexible because I can only play the note sets manually, with no way to store the main ones I like.

    Any idea on how to solve this?

    Thanks :)

  • You are correct. That is not possible. For this problem you have to take a different approach. Basically use a sequencer like LK which does chords and put an arpeggiator AU, like Rozeta arpagiator between it and GR-16. You can choose which MIDI channel(s) in LK goes to the arpeggiator or you can send all MIDI channels through the arpeggiator. Hope this helps.

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