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The 10.000 $ question: AB3 or AUM?

DIsclaimer: I know, this is the Audiobus forum and maybe my question is a litte bit unfair o:)

I'm still using Audiobus 2. My question is: Audiobus 3 or AUM? As far as I understand, both apps are now very similar. Are there significant differences I should know?

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  • $10,000 question with a $29 solution: get both.

  • It’s an old video, but maybe this will help some. Read the new Audiobus updates because it’s been updated. There is I believe a very big AUM update coming at some point.

  • Both essential for different reasons, I couldn't be without either.

  • I think you have to get AB3 to support the developer for:

    1. creating the essential standard that made IOS Music work and develop a real market of choices that could inter-operate.
    2. supporting and monitoring the best IOS forum available.

    If you use Korg Module or Gadget you're going to want AB
    4.

    These APP's don't show up in AUM and I'd expect there are more older apps that are coded to use AudioBus but didn't follow Apple's IAA or AU interfaces.

    Overtime they will likely continue to add the features that the other has... like AB adding recording/playback.

    I have both and typically spin up AUM as a simple way to create multi-APP layered sounds and for hitting record to capture an improvisation. So, both are must haves but budget limited I'd start with AB3.

  • My opinion, is that if you use many apps to make music in iOS, you should have AB3, AUM and Matrix. They are all tools, but tools that you will use over and over again. Sometimes you may find you get in one workflow and ignore one of them for a while - then another app will appear and you will dust off one of these tools, because it is simply the right tool for the job!

  • Sometime back it was:

    • Audiobus for MIDI
    • AUM for Audio

    Is that still the same or did they overlap in features over time?

  • Everyone needs both. Seriously.

  • Unless all you do is GarageBand or Gadget.

  • My order of precedence is AB3 first, with AUM added in to fill in the gaps for things you can’t do with AB3 alone. But that’s just me. Others will violently disagree.

  • Besides, AUM works as a great extension to AB3

  • AB
    and
    AUM
    I have more than one synth. Each has its place.

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  • @syrupcore said:
    $10,000 question with a $29 solution: get both.

    Perfect reply.
    /thread

  • @syrupcore said:
    $10,000 question with a $29 solution: get both.

    @syrupcore said:
    $10,000 question with a $29 solution: get both.

    +10.000

  • @syrupcore said:
    $10,000 question with a $29 solution: get both.

    :)

  • What if you aren't so interested with app routing, but are mostly doing hardware modular synthesis and need a very low cpu, flexible host? I don't own either AB3 or AUM (I do own Cubasis and Beatmaker).

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    For price-performance I would get AB3 and apeMatrix instead of AUM....

    Edit : AudioShare is a must have

  • @futureaztec said:
    What if you aren't so interested with app routing, but are mostly doing hardware modular synthesis and need a very low cpu, flexible host? I don't own either AB3 or AUM (I do own Cubasis and Beatmaker).

    I wasted my money on these routing apps. If you're mostly hardware there is very little reason to use them. BM3 is far superior to both IMO.

  • Both are awesome but AUM was the app that really brought everything together in a meaningful way for me. It was like the holy grail. I honestly haven’t used AB since I got AUM and haven’t run into a situation where I needed it.

  • Not too long back I asked the same question on this forum. I got answers like, Get both!, and I thought that not an answer.
    But, I find myself using both, in fact all three if we put the excellent ApeMatrix in there.

    Yes, I think it depends on what you’re doing but more than likely you’ll end up using them all. So get the one you need this moment and budget for the others. That’s the advice I got here and it was good advice. All the best.

  • wimwim
    edited October 2018

    @futureaztec said:
    What if you aren't so interested with app routing, but are mostly doing hardware modular synthesis and need a very low cpu, flexible host? I don't own either AB3 or AUM (I do own Cubasis and Beatmaker).

    Xequence for MIDI duties.
    + AB3 if you want to use other apps in addition to hardware synthesis
    + AUM if you need more advanced FX control and routing, or to record audio from those other apps.

  • I use AB3 anytime I need an IAA connection. It’s 1000 times more reliable and convenient, for reasons.

    I also use AUM but only for experimental setups for example bussing two tracks together to give it some effect. AUM is a good looping tool as well but Cubasis is more my DAW of choice for working with audio and Midi TBH.

  • @BroCoast said:

    @futureaztec said:
    What if you aren't so interested with app routing, but are mostly doing hardware modular synthesis and need a very low cpu, flexible host? I don't own either AB3 or AUM (I do own Cubasis and Beatmaker).

    I wasted my money on these routing apps. If you're mostly hardware there is very little reason to use them. BM3 is far superior to both IMO.

    Care to share your BM3 settings and how do you use it to sequence external gear?

  • edited October 2018

    @recccp said:

    @BroCoast said:

    @futureaztec said:
    What if you aren't so interested with app routing, but are mostly doing hardware modular synthesis and need a very low cpu, flexible host? I don't own either AB3 or AUM (I do own Cubasis and Beatmaker).

    I wasted my money on these routing apps. If you're mostly hardware there is very little reason to use them. BM3 is far superior to both IMO.

    Care to share your BM3 settings and how do you use it to sequence external gear?

    If you're using MIDI devices that don't sync to analog it won't work.

    But I am converting MIDI automation into analog clock signals. This is far superior timing to anything except innerclock or expert sleepers.

    The automation looks like this:

  • @BroCoast said:

    @recccp said:

    @BroCoast said:

    @futureaztec said:
    What if you aren't so interested with app routing, but are mostly doing hardware modular synthesis and need a very low cpu, flexible host? I don't own either AB3 or AUM (I do own Cubasis and Beatmaker).

    I wasted my money on these routing apps. If you're mostly hardware there is very little reason to use them. BM3 is far superior to both IMO.

    Care to share your BM3 settings and how do you use it to sequence external gear?

    If you're using MIDI devices that don't sync to analog it won't work.

    But I am converting MIDI automation into analog clock signals. This is far superior timing to anything except innerclock or expert sleepers.

    The automation looks like this:

    What do you use as converter?

  • @recccp said:

    @BroCoast said:

    @recccp said:

    @BroCoast said:

    @futureaztec said:
    What if you aren't so interested with app routing, but are mostly doing hardware modular synthesis and need a very low cpu, flexible host? I don't own either AB3 or AUM (I do own Cubasis and Beatmaker).

    I wasted my money on these routing apps. If you're mostly hardware there is very little reason to use them. BM3 is far superior to both IMO.

    Care to share your BM3 settings and how do you use it to sequence external gear?

    If you're using MIDI devices that don't sync to analog it won't work.

    But I am converting MIDI automation into analog clock signals. This is far superior timing to anything except innerclock or expert sleepers.

    The automation looks like this:

    What do you use as converter?

    MIDI channel B on my Make Noise O Coast.

  • @BroCoast said:

    @recccp said:

    @BroCoast said:

    @recccp said:

    @BroCoast said:

    @futureaztec said:
    What if you aren't so interested with app routing, but are mostly doing hardware modular synthesis and need a very low cpu, flexible host? I don't own either AB3 or AUM (I do own Cubasis and Beatmaker).

    I wasted my money on these routing apps. If you're mostly hardware there is very little reason to use them. BM3 is far superior to both IMO.

    Care to share your BM3 settings and how do you use it to sequence external gear?

    If you're using MIDI devices that don't sync to analog it won't work.

    But I am converting MIDI automation into analog clock signals. This is far superior timing to anything except innerclock or expert sleepers.

    The automation looks like this:

    What do you use as converter?

    MIDI channel B on my Make Noise O Coast.

    Nice one. Will try it after the update. Also cool that you can alter the pattern to your liking for 0C random generator. Just need to find something to convert it back to midi clock for the rest of my synths. Hopefully Korg SQ-1 can do that, if not than MIDI Link Sync remains the midi clock.
    Thanks!

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