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Yes it is.
In case you looked from your iPhone, KeyStage is an iPad only app.
oh snap. I thought this was going to be a new entry, not an update.
My bad. But thank you for your work! Cant wait to dive in!
edit: i was ready to pay all over again
Is there a "tip jar" somewhere?
Well the new features can be unlocked via in-app purchases. Thats the "tip jar"
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Hello I’m looking to perform live with KeyStage and have a question regarding the player unit. After setting up markers can you jump between markers in time? So if I hit the next or previous marker button will it jump to the next maker at the end of the measure or immediately?
Hi Oneilkw,
Currenty there isn't an automatic snyc between player units and the global transpose functions of KeyStage, though that definitely is on my road map.
However, there is still a way to do what you asked:
In the tutorial, you saw how you can move to a spesific marker when you active a spesific section. Well there is a way to change sections rythmically. Just tap the button next to the DSP meter to open up the time signatures and metronome menu. There you'll see a switch labeled "Sections changes at the end of bars". While this switch is active, changing sections only occurs at the end of each bar. So combining this with the above automation , you can kinda achieve what you asked.
Perfect, I’ll give that a shot.
Hi everybody!
Did anyone on this team try to use Neo-Soul Keys Studio 2/PureSynth Platinium with the Keystage 2.0?
I workin' on it, but still no results. Can't recall "saved' appstate. They're great sounding apps, but still hard to use for live performance. Or, maybe, I'm doing something wrong. I can recall patches in AUM.
Wow, Keystage 2.0 looks great. Thanks @Ali_Göktürk! Cute idea about the tip jar. Tip added..with thanks!
Is there any way to copy the AUv3 presets already created in Audiobus 3 over to Keystage?
Hi Voytec,
I don't have Neo-Soul Keys Studio 2, but I just tried with PureSynth Platinium and the fullstate callback works without any problems. Did you turn on the "Full States" mode on the track?
Hi Howard,
Unfortunately each host has its own AUv3 preset system, and cannot be transfered from one onto another. The only exception is that some Audio Units supports user presets (very few). For these audio units you can save presets directly in the audio unit itself, and these presets are accesible from any host app.
The only example that I know which supports user presets is Kymatica's AU3FX apps.
Great. So I will just save it as a User Preset in the AUv3, which Ravenscroft 275 for instance has, rather than as an AUv3 state-saved preset. Got it! Thanks for that explanation, @Ali_Göktürk.
Unfortunately its not exactly the case.
Ravenscroft 275 does not support AUv3 user presets. What you probably see in Audio Bus as "User Preset" is the preset system in Audio Bus. Those presets cannot be accessed from other host apps like KeyStage or AUM. Similarly AUM and KeyStage have their own preset system: They can store any state of an app as presets inside them.
But "User Presets" is a different system on audio units. An audio unit which supports "User Presets" allows a host app to save its current states as user preset directly inside the unit itself (as opposed to inside the host app). Therefore they can be accessed from any host.
If you load and audio unit in AUM, open presets menu and then tap + sign. You'll see option "Save in Plugin". If the plugin does not support user presets, AUM will warn you with an message. But if you try this with one of the AU3FX plugins of Kymatica (be careful, not AUFX), you wont get this message.
@Ali_Göktürk I just saved a preset in Ravenscroft 275 by hitting save in the AUv3 while in Audiobus 3 and I was able to then open that preset in the standalone version of RC275. I then opened Keystage and was able to see that user preset in the list of presets inside of the AUv3 of RC275 and was able to open without any issue.
Oh ok, that is directly inside Ravenscroft. So sorry for misleading you, its just a matter of miscommunication about naming. When I say AUv3 presets, I mean a general preset system of audio units. In AUM, it is when you tap the forth icon on the top left corner of the AUv3 view. In KeyStage it is when you tap the "preset" button on the top right corner of the AUv3 view.
No problem, @Ali_Göktürk. RC275 is not AB 3 optimized so perhaps that is why you can't save it as a general preset system of audio units. I recall that rather than add that facility they added an update which allowed us to save user presets from their AUv3 to their standalone app and those presets of course show up in the AUv3 instance of RC275. I can't imagine how much work has gone into Keystage to try to manage all the different ways that these apps behave. It is really working well and I can't wait for whatever else you have planned. Come on everyone, add to the tip jar! (get the in-apps)
I’ve spent the last couple of days re-setting up all my songs in KeyStage 2, but I’m having some issues with presets. I think I must be missing a step somewhere.
When I create a new song, I create the parts down the left hand side, open the AUv3, and select the preset from the AUv3 app menu. I also create the sections as required and save the song.
When I re-load that song, quite often I find an AUv3 has forgotten the preset I’ve loaded. Some songs seem to be reliable, others seem to be reliably wrong. I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong. I’ve checked the “Full States” box, although I have to say I don’t really know what that does.
There was some discussion higher up the thread of about three different types of preset, but I’m not sure I understand fully. I found this easier in the old version, where I just sent a program change message to the app and it changed preset automatically (at least, in apps where PC messages were supported). I think some explanation of presets in the next tutorial video would be good. (Actually I’m of an age where I prefer a written manual to a video, but I think that’s a generation thing - my daughter’s entirely the opposite).
Also, has anyone else had issues with Pure Synth Platinum crashing a lot? It seems to crash when I audition different presets through KeyStage, but also sometimes when I change songs it doesn’t load properly. I’m getting to the point where I’m just going to write it off and not use it, which is a shame because I love the sounds. Can’t have it randomly failing on a live gig though.
@timbo, I don't have Pure Synth Platinum but I will still try and help. Keystage remembers my changes in my AUv3 apps if I edit it in the Part in a Section column. It doesn't remember it if I edit it in the first column which is where you set up the inputs and outputs. Are you editing it in the Track column on under the section column?
Thanks @Howard, that might be where I’m going wrong. I’ve probably done both thinking it is the same, which explains why some presets are saved and some weren’t. It’s not just Pure Synth I had this problem with, it happened with SynthMaster and iSymphonic too.
That could explain it @timbo. I also noticed something odd about it but your question pushed me to figure it out. I really think Keystage 2.0 has huge potential as an interface for live playing so I am also starting to rework my setlists. We're not out playing live now so it's a good time to take care of these things.
I have so many charts though in Onsong and some are chordie style so I can't yet move all my charts over. Hopefully Keystage will add chordie chart functionality too!
That would be great. I have all my chord charts in PDF to load into KeyStage, but it’s a pain when the singer decides she wants to drop the pitch. Do I drop it in KeyStage, or do I rewrite the chord charts?
Well whenever your singer wants to change the pitch, you can use global transpose to change the pitch of the whole song (from the song properties, or the info unit in the live console) and simply play from the original charts.
Sorry, no way. With the singers you have to be ready for unexpected movements. Only things like iReal can do it on the flight.
But there's my advice. I spend over 40, or 45 years on the stage. Remember; never react, if the vocalist wants to raise or lower the key one half step. Then show a good small third in any direction. That's bad for him/her. Then go back to previous key, and everything's is Okay!
I didn't want to do that @Ali_Göktürk as I always worried that if I transposed the song that I could potentially forget to put it back when I go to the next song. I just tested it and see that if you transpose one song in a set in Keystage the app it only transposes that song while the other songs in the set remain in their original keys. Great feature!
Yes I saw that @Ali_Göktürk and that’s a great feature, I should use that. As Howard points out it’s only for that song so no risk of forgetting for the next song, which has always been a fear about using the buttons on the keyboard to do it.
I sometimes think that’s cheating and I should just play it in the new key, but I’m not good enough to do that. I’m certainly not brave enough to write the chords out in number notation (I, ii, iii, IV, V etc.) just yet!
I always feel it's cheating too, @timbo, but many people do it. Guitarists use capos at times to do the same thing.
It is good exercise to transpose things in your head when practising though and and of course being able to use the number notation (Nashville Number System) is also a good skill.
Anyhow, I still think having the ability to import more formats such as chordie would be a plus, @Ali_Göktürk, though perhaps it's a question of where it should appear on the wish list given that we can use the transpose button.
Hello Crew!
I checked out some multi-effects within KeyStage 2, and I've found a very good compatibility with Turnado plugin.
What I don't like? Just the name. Turando sounds much better to me. But's IMHO.
Stay safe, stay sane!
Bought the Key Stage app and the in-app purchases to be able to combine AUv3 rompers, synths and effects with my Korg Kronos for live usage. Works great and also the integration with my Kronos works when it comes to program changes with MSB and LSB for bank select messages. However when I want to switch from combi mode to program mode (or vice versa) I would need to send the corresponding sysex messages to my Kronos. I have been trying to accomplish this by utilizing a custom translator in Key Stage which uses the “switching to a section” as the trigger and then use sysex as output. With this setup Key Stage crashes. @Ali_Göktürk do you have any advice on this topic? Is this something that can be achieved with Key Stage?
Hi @Jaykay81
I started working on a new small update for all the bugs that the users reported so far. Is it possible if you can send me the song file which includes this custom translator that causes this crash, so that I can debug the problem?
In the files menü, all the songs have a share button next to their names. I'd really appreciate if you can send it to my e-mail address: [email protected]
Best,
Ali
Thank you @Ali_Göktürk
The email with the exported song is on its way!
Please could somebody help me. I have just purchased KeyStage to hopefully replace AUM. But I use AUM as well as Audiobus 3 and Ableton Link to sync to an external midi clock for apps such as SynthMaster one. Can KeyStage sync to an external midi clock so that all apps are in sync , or is there a way to do it as I can see no support for Ableton Link. If KeyStage cannot sync to external hardware then it is useless for me as I play live with Beat Buddy for example. Thanks