BM3 Update is out

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@intua_vincent said:
@Fruitbat1919 @recccp Recording the MIDI Effect chain output will most definitely happen

Great! Thank you!

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hansjbs

@WillieNegus said: I will be returning to my normal sarcastic self now.

About time 😂😂😂

LucidMusicInc

@Dawdles said:

@WillieNegus said:
Thanks for the explanation @intua_vincent

I’m among those that am confident in Intua’s ability to make this app as close to perfection for my type of Beatmaking so I won’t question how they prioritize B3. It’s a complicated mess of brilliance.

I also empathize and understand those greatly disappointed and disenfranchised about this update rollout.

I will again mention that COMMUNICATION...even if it’s just an occasional post on their blog, newsle or forum...will do much to avoid toxic discussions. Why create a blog, newsletter AND forum if you don’t use it well?

It’s when uninformed loyal users who’ve invested a lot of time and passion into projects are left to their own assumptions, humor, outrage, emo, etc that things can get wacky. I believe the few devs at Intua I’ve seen to be confident, thick skinned and well adjusted. I can’t imagine they’re ever reading these threads in tears. Seriously. If anything, they probably get a chuckle every now and again between fulfilling their passion. I hope so.

I digress...can we now can put to rest this bullshit about B3 being abandonware? Intua is alive, well, listening and working to improve B3. Great.

@intua_vincent is aware of this community and that people are passionate about B3. Let’s respect that and work with him to aid their development if we truly care about the app. If you don’t, why are you here discussing it?

Finally, an apology to @intua_vincent and @mathieugarcia if they took offense to my living thread on their forum. I doubt they did. I think it’s more like a few isolated members of the forum decided they didn’t get the humor in my updating title anymore but in the event I’m wrong...my apologies.

I will be returning to my normal sarcastic self now.

I do ‘truly care about the app’. Because it ‘used to’ do what I needed it to in a unique environment.

But, if a dev opts to break one thing to fix another then that’s great if you need what gets fixed and didn’t use the thing that gets broken.. But if you’re in the vice versa then you’re fuqt... Looks like I’m a minority casualty and few other people were Utilising creative midi au routing before. So I take one for the team I guess....

Won’t be using Bm3 in the foreseeable future though, I have zero trust remaining now that other features won’t get altered in future that break my existing projects for editing and/or kills my workflow again. Stuff like that really shouldn’t be a concern with daw updates...

Enjoy going backwards people

Frankly my dear I don’t give a damn about au Midi. I care about stability and high performance. The ends justify the means. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.

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LucidMusicInc

@Dawdles said:

@LucidMusicInc said:

@Dawdles said:

@WillieNegus said:
Thanks for the explanation @intua_vincent

I’m among those that am confident in Intua’s ability to make this app as close to perfection for my type of Beatmaking so I won’t question how they prioritize B3. It’s a complicated mess of brilliance.

I also empathize and understand those greatly disappointed and disenfranchised about this update rollout.

I will again mention that COMMUNICATION...even if it’s just an occasional post on their blog, newsle or forum...will do much to avoid toxic discussions. Why create a blog, newsletter AND forum if you don’t use it well?

It’s when uninformed loyal users who’ve invested a lot of time and passion into projects are left to their own assumptions, humor, outrage, emo, etc that things can get wacky. I believe the few devs at Intua I’ve seen to be confident, thick skinned and well adjusted. I can’t imagine they’re ever reading these threads in tears. Seriously. If anything, they probably get a chuckle every now and again between fulfilling their passion. I hope so.

I digress...can we now can put to rest this bullshit about B3 being abandonware? Intua is alive, well, listening and working to improve B3. Great.

@intua_vincent is aware of this community and that people are passionate about B3. Let’s respect that and work with him to aid their development if we truly care about the app. If you don’t, why are you here discussing it?

Finally, an apology to @intua_vincent and @mathieugarcia if they took offense to my living thread on their forum. I doubt they did. I think it’s more like a few isolated members of the forum decided they didn’t get the humor in my updating title anymore but in the event I’m wrong...my apologies.

I will be returning to my normal sarcastic self now.

I do ‘truly care about the app’. Because it ‘used to’ do what I needed it to in a unique environment.

But, if a dev opts to break one thing to fix another then that’s great if you need what gets fixed and didn’t use the thing that gets broken.. But if you’re in the vice versa then you’re fuqt... Looks like I’m a minority casualty and few other people were Utilising creative midi au routing before. So I take one for the team I guess....

Won’t be using Bm3 in the foreseeable future though, I have zero trust remaining now that other features won’t get altered in future that break my existing projects for editing and/or kills my workflow again. Stuff like that really shouldn’t be a concern with daw updates...

Enjoy going backwards people

Frankly my dear I don’t give a damn about au Midi. I care about stability and high performance.

Good for you. Basic needs for basic beats....

My condolences on your loss.

Maybe something like Ape Matrix or AUM is more up your alley? To keep on with the meaningless cliches when one door closes a window opens and every dark cloud has a silver lining.

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@Dawdles said:

@WillieNegus said:
Thanks for the explanation @intua_vincent

I’m among those that am confident in Intua’s ability to make this app as close to perfection for my type of Beatmaking so I won’t question how they prioritize B3. It’s a complicated mess of brilliance.

I also empathize and understand those greatly disappointed and disenfranchised about this update rollout.

I will again mention that COMMUNICATION...even if it’s just an occasional post on their blog, newsle or forum...will do much to avoid toxic discussions. Why create a blog, newsletter AND forum if you don’t use it well?

It’s when uninformed loyal users who’ve invested a lot of time and passion into projects are left to their own assumptions, humor, outrage, emo, etc that things can get wacky. I believe the few devs at Intua I’ve seen to be confident, thick skinned and well adjusted. I can’t imagine they’re ever reading these threads in tears. Seriously. If anything, they probably get a chuckle every now and again between fulfilling their passion. I hope so.

I digress...can we now can put to rest this bullshit about B3 being abandonware? Intua is alive, well, listening and working to improve B3. Great.

@intua_vincent is aware of this community and that people are passionate about B3. Let’s respect that and work with him to aid their development if we truly care about the app. If you don’t, why are you here discussing it?

Finally, an apology to @intua_vincent and @mathieugarcia if they took offense to my living thread on their forum. I doubt they did. I think it’s more like a few isolated members of the forum decided they didn’t get the humor in my updating title anymore but in the event I’m wrong...my apologies.

I will be returning to my normal sarcastic self now.

I do ‘truly care about the app’. Because it ‘used to’ do what I needed it to in a unique environment.

But, if a dev opts to break one thing to fix another then that’s great if you need what gets fixed and didn’t use the thing that gets broken.. But if you’re in the vice versa then you’re fuqt... Looks like I’m a minority casualty and few other people were Utilising creative midi au routing before. So I take one for the team I guess....

Won’t be using Bm3 in the foreseeable future though, I have zero trust remaining now that other features won’t get altered in future that break my existing projects for editing and/or kills my workflow again. Stuff like that really shouldn’t be a concern with daw updates...

Enjoy going backwards people

I agree, it's not what I was expecting either. But if that's the price of accuracy and stability so be it. BM3 midi is still far from perfect, but I'm sure once the basics get sorted properly more flexibility will follow at some point.
For now I'm happy to see INTUA is still in the game, and hope that communication won't fade out.

RUST( i )K

@LucidMusicInc said:

@Dawdles said:

@WillieNegus said:
Thanks for the explanation @intua_vincent

I’m among those that am confident in Intua’s ability to make this app as close to perfection for my type of Beatmaking so I won’t question how they prioritize B3. It’s a complicated mess of brilliance.

I also empathize and understand those greatly disappointed and disenfranchised about this update rollout.

I will again mention that COMMUNICATION...even if it’s just an occasional post on their blog, newsle or forum...will do much to avoid toxic discussions. Why create a blog, newsletter AND forum if you don’t use it well?

It’s when uninformed loyal users who’ve invested a lot of time and passion into projects are left to their own assumptions, humor, outrage, emo, etc that things can get wacky. I believe the few devs at Intua I’ve seen to be confident, thick skinned and well adjusted. I can’t imagine they’re ever reading these threads in tears. Seriously. If anything, they probably get a chuckle every now and again between fulfilling their passion. I hope so.

I digress...can we now can put to rest this bullshit about B3 being abandonware? Intua is alive, well, listening and working to improve B3. Great.

@intua_vincent is aware of this community and that people are passionate about B3. Let’s respect that and work with him to aid their development if we truly care about the app. If you don’t, why are you here discussing it?

Finally, an apology to @intua_vincent and @mathieugarcia if they took offense to my living thread on their forum. I doubt they did. I think it’s more like a few isolated members of the forum decided they didn’t get the humor in my updating title anymore but in the event I’m wrong...my apologies.

I will be returning to my normal sarcastic self now.

I do ‘truly care about the app’. Because it ‘used to’ do what I needed it to in a unique environment.

But, if a dev opts to break one thing to fix another then that’s great if you need what gets fixed and didn’t use the thing that gets broken.. But if you’re in the vice versa then you’re fuqt... Looks like I’m a minority casualty and few other people were Utilising creative midi au routing before. So I take one for the team I guess....

Won’t be using Bm3 in the foreseeable future though, I have zero trust remaining now that other features won’t get altered in future that break my existing projects for editing and/or kills my workflow again. Stuff like that really shouldn’t be a concern with daw updates...

Enjoy going backwards people

Frankly my dear I don’t give a damn about au Midi. I care about stability and high performance. The ends justify the means. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.

As if it is intentional and we paid $200 for it......LULZ

They will fix it.

They cannot however teach patience and understanding this is a process not event with apps like this.

Agree with you BTW

JohnnyGoodyear

@OscarSouth said:
@Dawdles can you reel in the whitewash onslaught of bottomless negativity a little? It makes these boards very tedious to read. We’re largely a self moderated community so it’s important we all keep this kind of thing in mind as individuals.

I (like most others) welcome a critical point of view in the discussion. However you’re by far the most active poster here, almost on a 1:1 ratio with all other posts, and every single one of them reads exactly the same. If I see that specific ‘structure’ of discussion in a thread on an initial scan down the page, I usually won’t even read it. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

Make your points (it’s very welcome and I also want to read it) but please let the discussion breathe a little and give it space to move forward. Much better to have 3 pages of balanced discussion than 10 pages of identical ranting.

I admire your calm rationale.

AudioGus

@intua_vincent said:
@Fruitbat1919 @recccp Recording the MIDI Effect chain output will most definitely happen

Great!

echoopera

I dunno. I had a good two hours of fun with the latest update of BM3 last night. Call me primitive but i enjoyed making noise in the update. 🤪

The new Midi AU routing didn’t bother me. Sure the instrument had to be in KEYS mode to work, but i was able to record my Rozeta Arps just fine to clips and roll those recorded patterns into the timeline. But hey I’m an onward and upward sort of mental model fellow. I don’t subscribe to the sky is falling mental model anymore. Life is too beautiful for that rubbish.

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@hansjbs said:

@WillieNegus said: I will be returning to my normal sarcastic self now.

About time 😂😂😂

I know right.🙄🤦🏽‍♂️😂

AudioGus

For me once midi AU recording is in then there really are no loose ends remaining in BM3 (again, for me; put down the pitchforks) and it is just perks beyond that.

If I recall properly, being able to layer multiple AU midi fx was not possible before so this method seems far better for my interests.

JohnnyGoodyear

@echoopera said:
I dunno. I had a good two hours of fun with the latest update of BM3 last night. Call me primitive but i enjoyed making noise in the update. 🤪

The new Midi AU routing didn’t bother me. Sure the instrument had to be in KEYS mode to work, but i was able to record my Rozeta Arps just fine to clips and roll those recorded patterns into the timeline. But hey I’m an onward and upward sort of mental model fellow. I don’t subscribe to the sky is falling mental model anymore. Life is too beautiful for that rubbish.

+1

AudioGus

@echoopera said:
I dunno. I had a good two hours of fun with the latest update of BM3 last night. Call me primitive but i enjoyed making noise in the update. 🤪

The new Midi AU routing didn’t bother me. Sure the instrument had to be in KEYS mode to work, but i was able to record my Rozeta Arps just fine to clips and roll those recorded patterns into the timeline. But hey I’m an onward and upward sort of mental model fellow. I don’t subscribe to the sky is falling mental model anymore. Life is too beautiful for that rubbish.

Huh, what? How are you recording Roz now?

Can you record Collider?

echoopera

@AudioGus said:

@echoopera said:
I dunno. I had a good two hours of fun with the latest update of BM3 last night. Call me primitive but i enjoyed making noise in the update. 🤪

The new Midi AU routing didn’t bother me. Sure the instrument had to be in KEYS mode to work, but i was able to record my Rozeta Arps just fine to clips and roll those recorded patterns into the timeline. But hey I’m an onward and upward sort of mental model fellow. I don’t subscribe to the sky is falling mental model anymore. Life is too beautiful for that rubbish.

Huh, what? How are you recording Roz now?

Can you recored Collider?

Just add your Rozeta ARP or Collider to your instrument Bank pad. Set the pad to KEYS mode and play away. If Rozeta ARP is on the Midi FX chain for the instrument it will play. Then create a New Pattern for the instrument, set its length and hit record and play away. Your notes are recorded to the Pattern. Add to timeline. Repeat this process for as many Patterns as you want. 👊🏼™️

Its not ideal if you want multiple synths assigned to a single Bank, but with a little workflow tweaking it does the job. However, you can get it to work just fine with multiple synths on a single Bank...but i think i found a path forward that I’ll test today.

I didn’t really use the Midi AU feature before the release as i found it convoluted to setup so i actually prefer this method.

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AudioGus

@echoopera said:

@AudioGus said:

@echoopera said:
I dunno. I had a good two hours of fun with the latest update of BM3 last night. Call me primitive but i enjoyed making noise in the update. 🤪

The new Midi AU routing didn’t bother me. Sure the instrument had to be in KEYS mode to work, but i was able to record my Rozeta Arps just fine to clips and roll those recorded patterns into the timeline. But hey I’m an onward and upward sort of mental model fellow. I don’t subscribe to the sky is falling mental model anymore. Life is too beautiful for that rubbish.

Huh, what? How are you recording Roz now?

Can you recored Collider?

Just add your Rozeta ARP or Collider to your instrument Bank pad. Set the pad to KEYS mode and play away. If Rozeta ARP is on the Midi FX chain for the instrument it will play. Then create a New Pattern for the instrument, set its length and hit record and play away. Your notes are recorded to the Pattern. Add to timeline. Repeat this process for as many Patterns as you want. 👊🏼™️

You have recorded Collider? (Lets forget arp for now)

echoopera

@AudioGus said:

@echoopera said:

@AudioGus said:

@echoopera said:
I dunno. I had a good two hours of fun with the latest update of BM3 last night. Call me primitive but i enjoyed making noise in the update. 🤪

The new Midi AU routing didn’t bother me. Sure the instrument had to be in KEYS mode to work, but i was able to record my Rozeta Arps just fine to clips and roll those recorded patterns into the timeline. But hey I’m an onward and upward sort of mental model fellow. I don’t subscribe to the sky is falling mental model anymore. Life is too beautiful for that rubbish.

Huh, what? How are you recording Roz now?

Can you recored Collider?

Just add your Rozeta ARP or Collider to your instrument Bank pad. Set the pad to KEYS mode and play away. If Rozeta ARP is on the Midi FX chain for the instrument it will play. Then create a New Pattern for the instrument, set its length and hit record and play away. Your notes are recorded to the Pattern. Add to timeline. Repeat this process for as many Patterns as you want. 👊🏼™️

You have recorded Collider? (Lets forget arp for now)

I’ll try later today. Just waking up. Time to Meditate 🤫🙏🏼💗

AudioGus

@echoopera said:

@AudioGus said:

@echoopera said:

@AudioGus said:

@echoopera said:
I dunno. I had a good two hours of fun with the latest update of BM3 last night. Call me primitive but i enjoyed making noise in the update. 🤪

The new Midi AU routing didn’t bother me. Sure the instrument had to be in KEYS mode to work, but i was able to record my Rozeta Arps just fine to clips and roll those recorded patterns into the timeline. But hey I’m an onward and upward sort of mental model fellow. I don’t subscribe to the sky is falling mental model anymore. Life is too beautiful for that rubbish.

Huh, what? How are you recording Roz now?

Can you recored Collider?

Just add your Rozeta ARP or Collider to your instrument Bank pad. Set the pad to KEYS mode and play away. If Rozeta ARP is on the Midi FX chain for the instrument it will play. Then create a New Pattern for the instrument, set its length and hit record and play away. Your notes are recorded to the Pattern. Add to timeline. Repeat this process for as many Patterns as you want. 👊🏼™️

You have recorded Collider? (Lets forget arp for now)

I’ll try later today. Just waking up. Time to Meditate 🤫🙏🏼💗

Yah I can use the arp on recorded notes but cant record the arp output.

If you can get Collider recording I will take up meditation.

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@Dawdles said:

@ErrkaPetti said:
Guys, calm down a bit ;-)
It’s an update, so, they are still alive!!

It’s an update that’s removed one of the main things I used in bm3. And without warning or request.
No one’s throwing themselves off buildings Just voicing opinion on the update. I’m over it, just means bm3 isn’t something I’ll reach for for midi experimentation. Which is a shame but nothing new after waiting months for the midi au fix in any case..

So if I read all your posts correctly you haven’t downloaded it yet? So nothing for you has changed because you didn’t update?

JohnnyGoodyear

@Dawdles said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@echoopera said:
I dunno. I had a good two hours of fun with the latest update of BM3 last night. Call me primitive but i enjoyed making noise in the update. 🤪

The new Midi AU routing didn’t bother me. Sure the instrument had to be in KEYS mode to work, but i was able to record my Rozeta Arps just fine to clips and roll those recorded patterns into the timeline. But hey I’m an onward and upward sort of mental model fellow. I don’t subscribe to the sky is falling mental model anymore. Life is too beautiful for that rubbish.

+1

Why do people get so high and mighty about accepting compromise and ‘making do’? I’m an ‘onwards and upwards’ kind of guy too. Just that sadly this time that means leaving bm3 behind and using something else. That’s not a ‘being negative’ thing. Just a sensible decision to choose the best tool for the job for what I want to do. Which bm3 doesn’t appear to be for me for this stuff any more. It’s not a case of ‘sky is falling mental mode’, it’s just having enough wits to not try to hit a square peg in to a round hole. Which frustratingly ‘used’ to be a square hole

I think that you and I may feel differently on this matter and we also have a fundamental difference of opinion as to attitude and delivery. I think it's probably best for us both (and for everyone else on the bus ) if we live and let live on this one.

LucidMusicInc

echoopera

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@Dawdles said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@echoopera said:
I dunno. I had a good two hours of fun with the latest update of BM3 last night. Call me primitive but i enjoyed making noise in the update. 🤪

The new Midi AU routing didn’t bother me. Sure the instrument had to be in KEYS mode to work, but i was able to record my Rozeta Arps just fine to clips and roll those recorded patterns into the timeline. But hey I’m an onward and upward sort of mental model fellow. I don’t subscribe to the sky is falling mental model anymore. Life is too beautiful for that rubbish.

+1

Why do people get so high and mighty about accepting compromise and ‘making do’? I’m an ‘onwards and upwards’ kind of guy too. Just that sadly this time that means leaving bm3 behind and using something else. That’s not a ‘being negative’ thing. Just a sensible decision to choose the best tool for the job for what I want to do. Which bm3 doesn’t appear to be for me for this stuff any more. It’s not a case of ‘sky is falling mental mode’, it’s just having enough wits to not try to hit a square peg in to a round hole. Which frustratingly ‘used’ to be a square hole

I think that you and I may feel differently on this matter and we also have a fundamental difference of opinion as to attitude and delivery. I think it's probably best for us both (and for everyone else on the bus ) if we live and let live on this one.

+1

Just let us weary travelers sort through the lot in life we’ve been given. A blessed one at that fwiw 🙏🏼🤪 because of the embarrassment of riches we have on iOS.

AudioGus

@Dawdles said:

@AudioGus said:
For me once midi AU recording is in then there really are no loose ends remaining in BM3 (again, for me; put down the pitchforks) and it is just perks beyond that.

If I recall properly, being able to layer multiple AU midi fx was not possible before so this method seems far better for my interests.

Maybe I’m not grasping the whole thing but you could always route midi au>midi au?

Likely it was I who was not grasping the whole thing before. Midi AUs are just a novel perk for me.

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