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ive never been into ios daws, just using aum and exporting from there to laptop but i never got on with cubasis despite several attempts, never tried auria or stagelight and dont like the walled garden idea in gadget much. Nanostudio seems to check the festures that im after and so far i like the workflow. i also really appreciate Obsidian and Slate at the moment. i hope to get on with it enough to use it regularly. the gui is visually pleasing and keeps me interested which is something cubasis never did for me, petty thing i know but for me its real.
Saved me writing it 😉
Auria Pro will always linger somewhere. For me it remains the ultimate Daw. But I will be composing on the NS2 definitely, especially when Apple fixes crackling issues on the latest ipad pros. I feel like creating a program spamming emails on their support server.
Way too happy with BM3 and AP to even think about a change.
Like a few others here, I'm using my iPad "DAW" together with external gear, so the answer is simple: No NS2 for now
Not being able to run it on iOS9 and the fact that I've got Gadget plus Stockholm for the same price, not to mention flawless clock syncing from hardware to Gadget, makes me stick with it.
I'm a bit surprised myself because if you asked me a year ago, I would've sworn that NS2 would be an "instabuy" for me, but Gadget and Stockholm (with all their little deficiencies) have grown so much on me that I don't really miss a lot now, except for a good sampler, for composing on the iPad.
I just get stuff going whenever I pick it up, and that's quite what NS1 did before, a long time ago.
Add Cubasis LE (was half the price of NS2) and Caustic as a synth, fx and acoustic instruments playground to build loops for importing into Gadget and further mangling there with the Rosario guitar amp&cab sim, and that's already a great setup.
I do find NS2 tempting, it ticks many marks already, it's just that in the meantime I've found a very powerful alternative that works too well for me.
@rs2000 : That is airtight , man. There is no arguing with that whatsoever
I’m in a happy place with Xequence/Quantum/Rozeta into AUM into BM3 right now so i’m sticking with what I have for now as well. NS2 looks amazing and I’m really glad it’s here. I’m just not sure it offers enough over my current setup to warrant me jumping into it yet. If I do take the plunge, it will probably be curiosity to hear what Obsidian sounds like that tips me. AUMs floating AU GUIs are hard to beat for me.
I’ll use NS2 for some things (midi sketching and midi export) and BM3 for other things (sound chopping, mashing, midi clock playback triggering jammy overdubs recorded live into the desktop daw). There are tons of workflows and creative aproaches to explore in both, particularly when incorporating them into a desktop DAW workflow. So yah #2. In a year or less from now NS2 could have some real sway but we shall see.
I’m good with BM3 for my beats (and Elastic Drums is finally opening up to me and helping me actualize my IDM project) and Cubasis for recording my acoustic stuff.
NS2 looks sexy but I’ve gotta buckle down and focus, I’ve wasted too much time and money on trying different workflows. That being said if I get any gift cards this year NS2 might sneak its way onto my iPad. The timeline is definitely the prettiest I’ve seen , period. (Not like it’s hard to be prettier than hideous Ableton)
Multiple time sigs might pull me in to NS2 as well. That could be fun.
KEW is my go to "do it all in one box" solution, the Electribe workflow just works for me. Other than that, it's jamming with everything else in AUM, recording individual audio streams, dumping it all into Auria and sorting it out there. Tried and tested, works for me and never gets stale.
I used NS1 back in ye olde times, i had much admiration for it but other tools appealed to me more. That's still the case but following the progress of NS2 has only increased my admiration for Matt and all the other one-person-app-outfits out there who provide us with such fantastic tools. And they do it largely out of love...
You caught me in a good mood. Long live IOS music, whichever way people choose to make it!!
(..and them Pocket Operators too ✌️)
NS2 is fun and pretty. Worth its weight in iTunes credits but it doesn’t make BM3 or Stagelight lesser Gods so for me it just joins them on Olympus. Stagelight is still Zeus for now, because he can be anywhere (iPhone, iPad, Mac, PC) and I like that I can work on tunes anywhere. BM3 still has the illest pads and chopsticks. SM1 still my favorite synth.
NS2 will join KEW as a groovebox/loop maker to feed Bm3/Stagelight. Eventually everything ends up in Logic X which beats the shit out of everything else.
Why capital text, why no poll?
I have cubasis which I like. But not really thinking to much about NS2, because I just started digging deeper into Stagelight, and I’m loving it.especially for writing drums( i highly recommend the Linkin Park drums kits made by the band)
The way you can write clips and then move them to a linear timeline is really great, kind of an
Abelton Libe vibe going on.
Also, it’s universal which is a huge factor for me. I may look into it once i see more demo videos, but right now Stagelight really has my attention.
I’ve not bought the LP drums in case they have to do a Korg one day!
I feel ready to switch to NS2 already for creation duties, but since I have fully invested in the Auria Pro plug-ins, I can see mixing in AP at least until I feel more comfortable with NS2 and its mixer and effects. But, I'm thinking that the way Matt works, once we get audio tracks and some of the other talked about enhancements, that NS2 will assume a more dominant role.
NS2 is a good match to Auria Pro. NS2 lets you export all the tracks as audio, but also it is possible to make midi stems too (rare on iOS). Auria Pro is just the king of iOS DAWs for mixing once most of the song is written. NS2 is just great for ease of getting midi down quickly. BM3 has great features too and is fine for audio stems to Auria, but lacks a solid midi export option.
Overall my favorite app is Caustic. It’s just so easy to get things done and it has the majority of features I need. I tried all the others. Spent a good bit of $. Nothing is bettter than Caustic (for me) when it comes to sitting down and creating a piece of music. Until now...
I discovered that you only can use Stagelight on one iOS device per registered license. Want to use it on iPad and iPhone with same license seems not possible. Check out their end users license. So many strings attached with bypassing the Appstore and their own credits system. This really sucks.
really? i’m not sure what you mean by licensing. but I purchased the linkin park drum packs on my iphone,
and when i got
home , they where ready to download on my ipad.
works great.
Just one of the many reasons I never even bothered to download StageLight.
Another one was the colour theme that just hurts my eyes like really bad.
With 'Light' in it's name it more like darkness deluxe...
Cubasis, BM3 & Gadget will do just fine for now. I may get NS2 at some point though...
I do like StageLight for putting drum grooves together, but after that I’m with you on the look - it’s painful to use at times.
I’m really liking NS2 as an initial song starter as I use mainly midi at that point. The ability to do extra takes for say my sax solos is just wonderful. Also with a bit of messing about, you can export each track as a separate midi ‘stem’ - it’s not automatic, but easy enough to do - would love to be able to do that in BM3
@eross @Samu @Fruitbat1919
This is what I posted in another thread yesterday about StageLight's licensing model. Probaly nobody reads them but it's interesting to do so. Especially when companies use independent credit systems:
The limit of iDevices is a point though. The Open Labs license agreement is clear:
"Device license. You may install one copy of the software on one hardware device for your internal business use or your own personal enjoyment. The software may only be used by one person at time, unless you have purchased licenses for additional users."
I own multiple iOS devices, as probably a lot of forum members, but I only may install it on one iOS device. This is for me unacceptable because I want, as with all my apps, use them on all my devices which I only can if I buy a license for every iOS device (6 in total btw). I also have the impression that Stagelight with it's credit and seperate registration bypasses Apples policy that you can have your apps installed on at least 10 iOS devices using the same Apple ID.
For me this was the reason to not purchase Stagelight. But I would like to hear what @OpenLabstechsupport @MatthewAtStagelight have to say about this. A lot of people using iOS have an iPhone and iPad which already means you have to purchase 2 licenses. So tricky business. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I have more than I need already. Lately I’ve been choosing a tempo and key sig and then I go scratching around in a few apps separately, not linked into AUM or anything. Then I take the audio into ableton. Stagelight gets me closest to sketching song structures not just isolated loops. It’s all about the flow IMO. Glad to see the NS2 flow clicks with so many.
@greengrocer: Interestingly, when I published my first app way back in 2013, bypassing the App Store or In-App Purchases was explicitly forbidden by Apple's rules. They seem to have loosened them then since. Also I feel that their app review is a bit too forgiving nowadays. Lots of really low-quality and/or buggy apps in the store. I guess it's since Tim Cook is at the helm of Apple and they just want to inflate the "Look how many apps we have" numbers
Finally some discussion about the Stagelight licensing model. Their whole credit systems works around all the different stores. Which I understand when you want to work cross playform. Problem could be also that when they quit , have a server crash, etc. you could loose everything. stagelight is a small company.
But the issue about their licensing model that @greengrocer pointed is quite serious. Probably they do a check everytime you start up Stagelight and if there's already a version somewhere else running it won't work.
@MatthewAtStagelight : Please take note . I whole heartedly agree as one of the senior members here with aging eyes . The GUI needs to be redone .
@Fruitbat1919 : Yeah that’s spot on.. I really don’t see the need for desktop w a fully loaded Auria Oro and NS2. That’s said, I’m really digging Stagelight also except for the GUI
I’m not sure I understand the license concern with Stagelight. Been running it on phone + iPad since it came out. Same account and both devices have all the combined purchased sample/patch content. Are people actually not doing that because it’s against the rules?