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@LinearLineman : As I said earlier, you should ignore MIDI for the time being.
Until you get the audio input set up you will be adding needless confusion. Focus like a laser on having audio reach the iPad through the interface.
Create a new project with just one audio track.
Make sure that you have set Cubasis to take the input from your audio interface.
Arm the track.
Record.
Play on your keyboard.
If no audio was recorded, read the interface instructions to make sure you have set any switches or dials needed.
Make sure the input level is turned up. Make sure the output level is turned up on your keyboard.
Does the interface have any input level indicators?
No just a clip light. I'm using the same interface.
I agree forget MIDI for now.
Weird that you can monitor the KAWAII via the headphone output of the Steinberg but it is silence in Cubasis.
On the UR22mkII the ’mix’ knob needs to be on DAW otherwise you will not hear the output from the iPad...
In your screenshot you have the midi track 1 selected.!!!
Select/highlight the audio track ! Not all the parts !
Makes no difference... You don't need to select the track. Just needs to be armed.
Make sure your input levels are up and you get an indication of an audio signal on your UR22 when you play your KB (the meters light up). Make sure phantom power and the hiZ switches are off on the UR22. Turn the mix knob full left to input, and check if you can hear the KB in your monitors. If not, check the Output knob on the UR22. It controls the monitors level. If using HP, make sure to raise the HP level on the UR22.
If all this checks out, the signal is getting to your UR22 ok I would assume.
Next, make sure you select the UR22 as the audio input on your Cubasis audio track. Make sure monitoring and armed are on. Make sure Cubasis is set to send audio to the UR22. Turn the mix knob to the right and you should hear the KB when you play on it. Fully right is all iPad. If this also checks out ok, try to record again.
@Cracklepot inputs up, output up. 2:30 AM and I am up.
@espiegel123 @BroCoast, I started again. No midi. Just audio.
@Samu , I put the mix 100% to DAW. ( no UR hp output as a result, of course). Flatline. I put the mix at 50%... Zero. It has to be something really obvious I am doing wrong, but what the hell is it?
I have no audio going out the URback panel, just midi in and out. That is correct, no?
@Cracklepot, how do I set CB to send audio to the UR? All the rest, I believe, I am doing
Once again, if I am just trying to record an audio track I only have tworouting options... Mono and stereo. Choosing either gives me no further pop up menus. Does that sound right?
In setup, under Audio, make sure you see your device listed.
Then on your audio tracks, make sure you send to Stereo 1/2. Mainly make sure it says 1/2, not off.
While you are in Settings, in the Audio section, look at your Input Gain setting. Mine is non-functioning, but it may be enabled for your device. If so, make sure it is raised enough to get the signal in.
Input Gain nonfunctional @CracklePot. Just to be sure: the UR22 is selected on the audio setup menu. I can only get it to appear in the routing with a midi track.
Yes, that is correct. The audio tracks don’t specify the device, just in the main Settings is it listed.
But you can inadvertently disable the audio output if your track is set to ‘off’ instead of ‘1/2’ in the output setting .
You should remove extra variables to troubleshoot.
Cubasis sends it's audio automatically to the UR22, that's implied by it's DAW function.
The UR22 receives audio via the 2 combo inputs (XLR + TRS in the center) and you'll see them available as recording sources in Cubasis.
You have to connect the Kawai's analog outputs to those plugs.
(if there's no stereo output, use the piano's headphone port with a cable adapter and plug the headphone into the UR22.
In case the piano supports audio AND midi over USB (which I doubt, but at least it's not clearly written in specs) you can't use the UR22 at the same time.
If this doesn't work you're going to have to send pictures of all the cable connections to see where the audio is getting dropped.
So where are you now?
Were you able to confirm that audio is going from your KB to your device correctly?
If yes, were you able to send audio through your iPad?
Make sure monitoring and armed recording are on, then turn the mix knob toward the right (on the UR22), play something on the KB, and you should hear the audio going out the KB, into the UR22, into Cubasis, out of Cubasis, into the UR22, and out of the monitors or HP.
Don’t forget to turn up the Phones or Output knob, for whichever you are trying to use to listen back.
To summarize the connections:
UR22 USB to CCK to iPad
Headphone to UR22
Kawai DIN Midi Out to UR22 Midi In, Kawai DIN Midi In to UR22 Midi Out
Kawai analog line outputs to the 2 center plugs of the UR22 (not the XLR connectors)
@cracklepot @Telefunky @McDtracy (you should be with your guests!)
Audio is coming into the UR ( clipping leds blinking and hp receiving on UR) cannot verify audio going to iPad as no sound is being recorded. Mix set to input but recorded with 100% and 50% DAW.
Nice pictures though. Love this Pro2!
When you play your KB, and the monitor switch is blue on your audio track, you should see activity on that track in the mixer page monitors for the audio track. If you disable the monitor button (blue speaker), then the input signal should go quiet and the meters in Cubasis mixer should be dead.
To hear what your iPad is doing in your HP, make sure the mix knob on the UR22 is at least 12 o’clock. Full right is all iPad, full left is live signal, middle is blend of both.
@Telefunky. All correct from your summary.
@CracklePot no mixer signal when monitor is blue.
Sorry to frustrate you guys. It is 5am. I am pretty frustrated as well. I have just been over and over this thing.
@LinearLineman : if you playback some audio you have already recorded on the iPad, do you hear it in the headphones connected to your interface?
Have you power/cycled everything? If not, that sometimes works magic.
Is anything plugged into your iPad besides the cck?
good point - if cans are plugged in, they steal the audio output (overriding the UR22)
but I have no ideas with newer iPads/IOS versions/permissions for peripheral use
you may check the Kawai's doc, if lineout is permanent or has to be activated
recording cables can be tested by unplugging on the piano side, arm the track in Cubasis and touch the tip of the connector (while holding the cable part, not the plug which is grounded) - should result in hum and noise
Thanks, guys. It is 6 AM in Istanbul. Must crash. I will try what you suggest tomorrow and report back. My Ravenscroft 275 is looking very good right now. Sweet dreams.
Verify from the Kawaii on through.
What ports on the Kawaii make it work through the powered speakers. Those are the ports that need to be connected to the UR22's audio in's using 1/4" cables if the Kawaii uses 1/4". If the Kawaii uses XLR's then XLR's.
Once that's connected does the headphone jack on the UR22 present the Kawaii's audio like the speakers did?
Take each step in turn. If this does not work we need to see a picture of the cable coming out of the Kawaii.
(Gotta go).
You really unplug the speakers cables and plug into the UR22.
Trying to remove any ambiguous instructions here.
Speakers got sound CHECK
Now the UR22 gets that sound after moving by using headphones to CHECK
Does that work?
It seems like, after all this back and forth, that the UR22 is not getting audio into the iPad.
It does get midi to the iPad, though, so the USB isn’t the whole problem. Maybe it will end up being part of the problem, but I think it is ok right now and would look elsewhere.
Try using different sample rate, bit depth, and even audio buffer settings. If that gets you nowhere, I would suggest try recording into another app, like AudioShare. If that works, then I would think Cubasis is the likely culprit, and hit up Lars.
If AudioShare fails to record, then maybe try a different USB cable. Hey, you never know. Also check the audio cables from the Kawai into the UR22. Honestly, cables are never the problem for me, but I have heard crazy stories from other folks.
The last thing I can think of, and I can’t check this since I don’t own a UR22 (but I read the manual tonight), is concerning this ‘loopback mode’ they mention. It is a setting that can only be accessed from a computer using their utility software. There is a checkbox to enable loopback mode, but they go on to mention loopback mode doesn’t work with iPads. If this loopback mode is set to ‘on’, perhaps it is screwing with your attempt at using the UR22 with the iPad. Maybe it disables automatically when you connect an iPad, but like I said, I can’t check this. Maybe someone with a UR22mkii and a computer can enlighten us?
NOTE: The UR22 has knobs that need to allow sound to pass.
Checking in... did @LinearLineman take a sleep break?