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Do emotionally scarred people make the most beautiful music?
Bit of an odd question maybe, but something I have wondered for a while now. Pain as a muse (though not one you’d wish for). Any thoughts or views?
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I don't know about the scars but the opened wounds can certainly motivate one to creatively escape/rationalize/explain/heal etc...
Not just pain or emotionally scarring--just about any deep emotion can be a powerful muse. Gotta have something to say to someone else, y'know?
Anyone can tap into the deep universal muse that is the inherent pain of being alive and mortal in an ever frightening and changing world where a stream of profound loss is the only constant. Merry Christmas!
No, mine's pretty ugly.
If you are Emo, then sure, I guess.
No, not at all. Some artists are more appealing because they are more specific about the pain they've experienced, but being tortured is far from a requisite from making beautiful things. In fact, as far as I know, my favorite artists other than Brian Wilson have been level & driven people. And I've always found the ability to tell an emotional story in third person, rather than a first-person account, to be much harder and much more effective (even if the artist was drawing on his/her own experience).
Many musicians were and still are highly sensitive persons since they were children or teenagers. Highly sensitive in their feelings, highly sensitive to the world. But all bad things in the world can be scaring for them, perhaps more than for average people. I’m sure they should be as creative without that crazy environment. But yes, this can also lead to some inspiration, as those musicians share some visions though their music (sometimes subconsciously, sometimes in mindfulness), and this is all about beauty and hope for themselves and the humanity. Pain is not necessary, only a consequence of that sensitivity which in fact is a deep human strenght
According to Article XI of the 1781 Articles of Confederation, if Canada wants to join they will automatically become a part of the U.S.. Just in case. Last minute prezzie etc.
Ooooh... then I can actually use the US iTunes card I just got.
I have to say that @JohnnyGoodyear is so obtuse that he has actually come full circle. I actually believe he was present when the Articles of Confederation were signed. Or at least he showed up for class the day that little piece of history was taught. But yes, English Canada could find angst and anomie here and welcome back the part of the collective unconscious they so deliberately abandoned. And there are always the French Canadians. They know how to be miserable like the rest of us.
Art is without doubt part of the artist, so the relation of what nurtures the artist and the art is pretty much certain. This is an oversimplification though and the art / artist relationship is like all things, more complex.
I have no doubts that some artist are capable of making me feel a strength of emotion which is not equal to that which they have experienced in a personal sense. It’s also true that not all who experience can actually convey their experiences to others.
I somewhat agree with OPs premise but it could also be that emotionally scarred people connect best with music by emotionally scarred people....like how happy people like happy music or Koreans like Korean music. And everyone is emotionally scarred.
My other theory I’ve had for a while is that the best music comes from rough places to live in like Manchester or Detroit during certain eras - the opposite of fun in the sun California and their plastic pop marketing (please don’t post individual examples to contradict this, there are of course good bands from CA but I am speaking in generalities here)
I would like to introduce evidence contrary to the original premise.
I resemble this!
Read this not too long ago...
Secrets of the Creative Brain
A leading neuroscientist who has spent decades studying creativity shares her research on where genius comes from, whether it is dependent on high IQ—and why it is so often accompanied by mental illness.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/07/secrets-of-the-creative-brain/372299/
Scarred or just good empathetic listeners, probably yes.
Ohhhh, one of my favorite musicians of all time... cEvin Key!
Oh cool, mine too! Big inspiration!
no.
One persons scar is another persons scratch.
My old P.E. teacher when we playing ‘footy’ used to say ‘you have to suffer for your art’.
I had a rugby master who liked to play 'footy'.....
Unfortunately for my old teacher, I did once knock him out whilst playing hockey, so karma must have brought the suffering full circle.
No. However we all suffer,as in COPE
To extend this question, do drugs (Cannabis, LSD, Speed, Coke, etc.) help people to make better emotional music? Or even better do you need drugs to make music that is not that little better than avarge emotional music?
Muscians are nowadays comparable with top-level sporters. And you know what sporters use to deliver that little bit extra. I have the idea that most top-level artists use the same kind of stimulants.
btw All types of music have specific drugs. Hippies LSD, Punkrock Speed you can make the list for yourselves.
Interesting perspective, could be some truth in the empathetic resonance thing
Thanks for sharing, an interesting (and lengthy!) read. I had no idea Aristotle said “Those who have been eminent in philosophy, politics, poetry, and the arts have all had tendencies toward melancholia.” As others have hinted, it’s whether melancholy and creativity are commonly coexisting traits or one leads directly to the other that’s the thing.
I have chronic pain and other disabilities and experience intense feeling of suffering especially in bad phases
Music has helped me to express these things but also hopes, dreams, good times I wouldn’t say my music is more beautiful because of that but I’m certainly more creative than if things were different and I have more time to do stuff because I’m at home more than average people
I also tend to lean towards artists that have experienced emotional scars or are disabled etc