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Korg Gadget 2 !

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  • @R_2 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    not sure what the Gadget itself would look like, maybe it would have some assignable controllers that can be played and automated and a keyboard.

    ? Pic is in the first post of this thread

    OK so add an XY pad like on the electribe and an LFO and I wasn't far wrong :)

  • @Beathoven said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Is there anyone clever here who has an idea how Taipei will send midi? What does that session look like?

    My best guess is that it will simply send the MIDI from the sequencer to a selected device(s) and channel(s), not sure what the Gadget itself would look like, maybe it would have some assignable controllers that can be played and automated and a keyboard.

    So then, presumably, the audio from that synth is recorded into Gadget?

    You would guess so, presumably into Zurich ? or possibly Taipei will have a channel input for live monitoring.
    I'd hope though that it is recordable so you can have the audio when you are not connected to your MIDI devices.

  • edited January 2019

    It looks like knobs that are assigned to CCs. It seems to have an arpeggiator (bottom left). The thing top left could be a chaos pad. Since this is a render of the 'gadget' and not the actual interface I guess we will see more knobs and maybe a second page with more live controls. To get external audio back into gadget I guess you will have to record it like any other external audio source. Hopefully we will be able to create and store presets for different external VSTs or physical devices.

  • @Doc_T said:
    It looks like knobs that are assigned to CCs. It seems to have an arpeggiator (bottom left). The thing top left could be a chaos pad. Since this is a render of the 'gadget' and not the actual interface I guess we will see more knobs and maybe a second page with more live controls. To get external audio back into gadget I guess you will have to record it like any other external audio source. Hopefully we will be able to create and store presets for different external VSTs or physical devices.

    Yes I was just having a close inspection myself- this photo seems clearer than the last and it’s good to see the cc controls as most probably hoped. I think it will just be an x y pad as opposed to a Kaoss ( effects) pad for sending midi control messages. Hopefully though it will also send note data in mono like a Kaossilator..... I think I know someone who might like that... @db909 where art thou.

  • @robosardine said:

    @Doc_T said:
    It looks like knobs that are assigned to CCs. It seems to have an arpeggiator (bottom left). The thing top left could be a chaos pad. Since this is a render of the 'gadget' and not the actual interface I guess we will see more knobs and maybe a second page with more live controls. To get external audio back into gadget I guess you will have to record it like any other external audio source. Hopefully we will be able to create and store presets for different external VSTs or physical devices.

    Yes I was just having a close inspection myself- this photo seems clearer than the last and it’s good to see the cc controls as most probably hoped. I think it will just be an x y pad as opposed to a Kaoss ( effects) pad for sending midi control messages. Hopefully though it will also send note data in mono like a Kaossilator..... I think I know someone who might like that... @db909 where art thou.

    Have been having a close look at that pic myself.

    I agree that most probably it simply sends midi out of Gadget and also records it in the piano roll for play back. So... notes from the keyboard and arp. Cc messages from the dials and the LFO. Also I believe that’s a ‘Kaos Pad’ like in other Korg standalone apps that sends notes/pitch along the x axis and a single assignable cc on the y axis.

    My guess is, sadly, it’s aimed at sending to hardware rather than other apps on the same device, so there’ll be no new way of getting the resulting audio back in other than what we already have now (basically you have to go in via an audio interface into the iPad/iPhone). I hope I’m wrong though. I hope Gadget introduces IAA audio into Zurich / Rosario.

    My other hope is that inside Gadget you can route the midi from Taipei to another Gadget instance. That would be cool. That would add a syncable LFO to any of the other gadgets parameters. And it would be good for people who like using a Kaos pad for playing gadgets. The jury is out on whether Korg will add this kind of routing though. My guess is they won’t because it might be a little complicated for some users and (mostly to Korg’s credit) they like to keep things nice and simple for users.

    The good news is that even if they don’t, you could of course route the midi out of Taipei and then back into any other gadget yourself by going via an app like ‘MidiFlow’.

    Will be interesting to see how it all works when it comes out though. It’s a step forward anyway.

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  • I actually hope Taipei is for hardware instead of other apps. I think there exist plenty enough instrument options in the Gadget collection.

    We could certainly use more effects and possibly improvements could be made on the existing effects as well, at least a better EQ and Compressor and more reverb options like we have on Vancouver but as ifx.

    Introducing a granular synth would be nice to see down the road but i dont think korg has ever done that anywhere in their software catalog so it may be too far from their comfort zone.

    would i be wrong in thinking that in order to install Memphis and Pompeii that you have to buy the original app first? that will actually save me money as i have zero interest in PolySix so will avoid it rather easily. but i will need to purchase iMS20 unfortunately.

  • @sysexual said:
    I actually hope Taipei is for hardware instead of other apps.

    Why not both?

  • @sysexual said:
    I actually hope Taipei is for hardware instead of other apps. I think there exist plenty enough instrument options in the Gadget collection.

    We could certainly use more effects and possibly improvements could be made on the existing effects as well, at least a better EQ and Compressor and more reverb options like we have on Vancouver but as ifx.

    Introducing a granular synth would be nice to see down the road but i dont think korg has ever done that anywhere in their software catalog so it may be too far from their comfort zone.

    would i be wrong in thinking that in order to install Memphis and Pompeii that you have to buy the original app first? that will actually save me money as i have zero interest in PolySix so will avoid it rather easily. but i will need to purchase iMS20 unfortunately.

    Yes it seems to be the norm that you will be required to buy the bigger app first. I was told earlier that they go on at a sale price at the start.
    I am looking forward to the iMS20 as well. I notice that the level of excitement/ expectation is a bit tempered at the moment. It’s as though people don’t expected it to sound as good as the indicators suggest it will- the iM20 itself seems to be very well regarded (by those that can understand it and use it- not me) and the iMS20 mini sounds fantastic on the YouTube videos- so if the Gadget one emulates it at all decently then it will be a superb addition. I am hoping it will become one of my ‘go to’ instruments... I have a heap of effects here waiting patiently for it.

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 what gives you the idea that the midi module might be designed for hardware only? This would seem to me to be slightly bizarre- but a major let down as well.

  • @robosardine expectations should be extremely limited as korg havent really give us much to expect outside of the new gadgets and a few words about a brushed up interface.

  • @sysexual said:
    @robosardine expectations should be extremely limited as korg havent really give us much to expect outside of the new gadgets and a few words about a brushed up interface.

    But it is always when she is behind the curtain that our hearts beat loudest.

  • @robosardine said:

    @sysexual said:
    I actually hope Taipei is for hardware instead of other apps. I think there exist plenty enough instrument options in the Gadget collection.

    We could certainly use more effects and possibly improvements could be made on the existing effects as well, at least a better EQ and Compressor and more reverb options like we have on Vancouver but as ifx.

    Introducing a granular synth would be nice to see down the road but i dont think korg has ever done that anywhere in their software catalog so it may be too far from their comfort zone.

    would i be wrong in thinking that in order to install Memphis and Pompeii that you have to buy the original app first? that will actually save me money as i have zero interest in PolySix so will avoid it rather easily. but i will need to purchase iMS20 unfortunately.

    Yes it seems to be the norm that you will be required to buy the bigger app first. I was told earlier that they go on at a sale price at the start.
    I am looking forward to the iMS20 as well. I notice that the level of excitement/ expectation is a bit tempered at the moment. It’s as though people don’t expected it to sound as good as the indicators suggest it will- the iM20 itself seems to be very well regarded (by those that can understand it and use it- not me) and the iMS20 mini sounds fantastic on the YouTube videos- so if the Gadget one emulates it at all decently then it will be a superb addition. I am hoping it will become one of my ‘go to’ instruments... I have a heap of effects here waiting patiently for it.

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 what gives you the idea that the midi module might be designed for hardware only? This would seem to me to be slightly bizarre- but a major let down as well.

    Slightly bizarre and let down - that sounds like Korg to me 😁 I kinda feel this way too (I think I joked about it in an earlier post). Judging by past history - like when they introduced Zurich - in which you could only record from external hardware. Why not other apps on your device? That's probably what the majority of users want... can't wait to find out though how midi out will be handled !!

  • If it's sending MIDI it can be used for hardware AND apps....
    Depending on how they do it, you may need to use 3rd party app (AB3, Midiflow, MidiFire, AUM, ModStep etc.....) to route the midi to an app...BUT...for the most part it is AUv3's peeps are looking to use, so those will need to be hosted somewhere anyway...
    Separate is the issue of getting the resulting audio back into Gadget....I suspect this will not be part of Taipei and that we will need to use Zurich.....so if using MIDI hardware...record the output from the device into Zurich...if using an app, then host and record in AUM for example, then import the audio into Zurich...

  • @AndyPlankton said:
    If it's sending MIDI it can be used for hardware AND apps....
    Depending on how they do it, you may need to use 3rd party app (AB3, Midiflow, MidiFire, AUM, ModStep etc.....) to route the midi to an app...BUT...for the most part it is AUv3's peeps are looking to use, so those will need to be hosted somewhere anyway...
    Separate is the issue of getting the resulting audio back into Gadget....I suspect this will not be part of Taipei and that we will need to use Zurich.....so if using MIDI hardware...record the output from the device into Zurich...if using an app, then host and record in AUM for example, then import the audio into Zurich...

    Oh, that’s more generous than i am assuming. I don’t think anything is coming back in like that, just midi out and hosting it in aum or something like that. But i do hope you are right.

  • @vpich said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    If it's sending MIDI it can be used for hardware AND apps....
    Depending on how they do it, you may need to use 3rd party app (AB3, Midiflow, MidiFire, AUM, ModStep etc.....) to route the midi to an app...BUT...for the most part it is AUv3's peeps are looking to use, so those will need to be hosted somewhere anyway...
    Separate is the issue of getting the resulting audio back into Gadget....I suspect this will not be part of Taipei and that we will need to use Zurich.....so if using MIDI hardware...record the output from the device into Zurich...if using an app, then host and record in AUM for example, then import the audio into Zurich...

    Oh, that’s more generous than i am assuming. I don’t think anything is coming back in like that, just midi out and hosting it in aum or something like that. But i do hope you are right.

    I think that’s what @AndyPlankton is saying too. He’s saying you’d have to record in AUM. And then as a second stage import the recorded audio into Gadget.

    I agree too.

    (However if it’s more than 16 bars it’s a nightmare getting it into Gadget traversing multiple scenes and there always seem to be clicks at the start/end of each scene. So you’re basically restricted to less than 16 bars at a time.)

  • edited January 2019

    @robosardine said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 what gives you the idea that the midi module might be designed for hardware only? This would seem to me to be slightly bizarre- but a major let down as well.

    I’m not saying you won’t be able to send midi to other apps too. I’m sure you will. I’m just not sure about recording the audio back into Gadget live.

    I just suspect in the forefront of their minds the primary use case might be sending midi out to hardware and then recording the audio back into Gadget via an interface. Rather than recording audio from other apps on the same device.

    I might be wrong. But I’m just going off how things stand right now (you can record live external audio into Gadget, but not from other apps).

  • "When tomorrow comes"... 🎶

  • @marcuspresident said:
    "When tomorrow comes"... 🎶

    they didnt actaully say February 1st.

  • I NEED this ........and Drambo then I can sleep again

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @robosardine said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 what gives you the idea that the midi module might be designed for hardware only? This would seem to me to be slightly bizarre- but a major let down as well.

    I’m not saying you won’t be able to send midi to other apps too. I’m sure you will. I’m just not sure about recording the audio back into Gadget live.

    I just suspect in the forefront of their minds the primary use case might be sending midi out to hardware and then recording the audio back into Gadget via an interface. Rather than recording audio from other apps on the same device.

    I might be wrong. But I’m just going off how things stand right now (you can record live external audio into Gadget, but not from other apps).

    Yeah this is what I am expecting too.
    If you are lucky enough to have 2 iDevices, then you could run Gadget on one...MIDI OUT to apps running on the other and record the output from that back into Gadget.

  • @sysexual said:

    @marcuspresident said:
    "When tomorrow comes"... 🎶

    they didnt actaully say February 1st.

    ...And I was wondering where you were...🎼🎤

  • @marcuspresident said:

    @sysexual said:

    @marcuspresident said:
    "When tomorrow comes"... 🎶

    they didnt actaully say February 1st.

    ...And I was wondering where you were...🎼🎤

    Underneath your dream lit eyes” 🎵

  • @sysexual said:
    I actually hope Taipei is for hardware instead of other apps. I think there exist plenty enough instrument options in the Gadget collection.

    We could certainly use more effects and possibly improvements could be made on the existing effects as well, at least a better EQ and Compressor and more reverb options like we have on Vancouver but as ifx.

    Introducing a granular synth would be nice to see down the road but i dont think korg has ever done that anywhere in their software catalog so it may be too far from their comfort zone.

    would i be wrong in thinking that in order to install Memphis and Pompeii that you have to buy the original app first? that will actually save me money as i have zero interest in PolySix so will avoid it rather easily. but i will need to purchase iMS20 unfortunately.

    Maybe they can do a tie in with Propellerheads again to give us a cut down version of Reason Grain as love that soft synth.

  • @sysexual said:

    @marcuspresident said:
    "When tomorrow comes"... 🎶

    they didnt actaully say February 1st.

    :lol: Well, hopefully @davis_korgrd can at least throw us a bone tomorrow by uploading screenshots and divulging more about the improved UI/UX, new IFX, and share with us what the two new IAPs are.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @sysexual said:

    @marcuspresident said:
    "When tomorrow comes"... 🎶

    they didnt actaully say February 1st.

    :lol: Well, hopefully @davis_korgrd can at least throw us a bone tomorrow by uploading screenshots and divulging more about the improved UI/UX, new IFX, and share with us what the two new IAPs are.

    Sure, like they always do! ;)
    I've actually kind of come to like the awkward Korg announcements, like suddenly posting a free update that allows time travel or gives us a free new drum machine.

    (Which, come to think of it, Gadget could really use. I would LOVE a gadget along the lines of the new Volca drum synth....)

  • Each time I see a ‘1new’ next to this thread I come hoping it’s someone with breaking news about the impending release........... em- it’s not this one either..... sorry.

  • @R_2 said:

    @marcuspresident said:

    @sysexual said:

    @marcuspresident said:
    "When tomorrow comes"... 🎶

    they didnt actaully say February 1st.

    ...And I was wondering where you were...🎼🎤

    Underneath your dream lit eyes” 🎵

    .. And(Gadget) you are far from here... 🎶🎚️🎙️

  • Will it be live tomorrow or someday in February ?!

  • @david_2017 said:
    Will it be live tomorrow or someday in February ?!

    Feb. 29 I heard.

  • They may mean February 29th ;-)

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