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how to sync 2 iPads?
is there any way to sync 2 iOS machines
for example 2 iPads with AUM?
thanks.
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Ableton Link. Enable it in Aum ,AB3, ape matrix (or the apps you want to sync that have Ableton Link) on both devices. Both devices need to be connected to the same wifi network.
Iso
thanks but
no other way?
I want to use this live, sometimes no wifi network in the live place...
is there something more direct !?
If you have a phone with a data allowance, you can make a personal hotspot & use that as your (Edit : Your're, thanks@LinearLineman !) wifi hub. There maybe a hardware solution, but someone else will need to advise..........
Wired Ableton Link
For each device:
-Camera connection kit
-USB to Ethernet adapter
Then connect devices with Ethernet cable
Wired Midi
For each device:
-Camera connection kit
-USB to MIDI cable
Then use two MIDI female to female adapters to connect Midi out of first device to Midi in of second, and vice versa.
Your second method (wired midi)...
does it work for all midi between iPads? I wondered about it before, but need another USB to Midi cable to try it. When I asked about it around here before, most people said it probably won’t work, so I never actually tried it.
I ended up getting MidiFire and using its Midi WiFi functionality. That works great, but like Link, you need a WiFi network to use it.
Or you can always do it by ear.....
I think you can make a wifi hub without using data... I think?
Apollo Midi uses Bluetooth rather than Wifi. It works well in my (admittedly limited) experience. I’m not sure I ever tried midi clock over it though.
I’ve used a HooToo travel router to set up my own battery powered wifi network many times. Rav Power makes good ones too.
I would try Ethernet for live use. I don’t think I’d trust even a private WiFi network or Bluetooth in a public venue. Far too much can go wrong.
Oh cool! I’ve got the RavPower one. Have had it for ages and still works great. And they’re still selling the same model. I hadn’t thought of using it this way. That might also work for sending Audreio transmissions between devices with a little potable RavPower network set up. Cool. Thanks!
https://www.ravpower.com/p/ravpower-6000mah-filehub-plus.html
They’re handy for a lot of things. I just saved $29 a day for high speed WiFi at a resort hotel by plugging it into the Ethernet cable from the TV in the room. 😎
I also use it for archiving huge video projects to a USB hard drive.
That would be cool, will try it out now with my 5c. 😎
Just tried it, and you need to switch mobile data on to create a hotspot. I'm assuming that if your (Edit : "Your're", thanks @LinearLineman !) out of data it won't work, most people have loads these days, but if you are PAYG like me, it will scofff your (EDIT:" Your're") allowance up & start eating your phone minutes up really quickly. Could be a bummer if your skint or doing a gig in the middle of nowhere.......
Saying that, someone will have to test to see if using it for Ableton Link actually uses any data up...........
The safe way is to each ipad have their own midi interface and just connect midi out to midi in.
Then within the software (audiobus) of the master idevice you point clock destination at the interface you want to be the slave.
I've done this between two ipads couple of days ago and it just worked. Start and stop and all.
Of course if you're also using audio it makes sense to have audio/midi interfaces instead of just midi. Zoom u24 is cheap and very good for this.
^ @waka_x
This would appear to be the definitive answer, Thanks @supadom 🙂
thank you all for the answers.
the one I will use is the one with hotspot and abl link. cheapest and cleanest I guess...:)
Just make sure you report back how clean and cheap it really is. :)
I've been told the same thing by someone that uses an iphone as a wifi hub for multiple iPads.
That would be really useful to find out about. For some reason I've convinced myself that you need to have some data for it to work, but if not, it makes the whole thing much more interesting & useful as I rarely have any data on my phone as it is not on a contract...........i suspect many other people are in the same boat.........
If I recall correctly @SevenSystems has used a decommissioned (no sim) iPhone as a hub.
I’m not sure why would 2 devices connected to WiFi need data? I think you just need an off line router. There was a thread about this a while back where people would have success with some routers. Have a dig about.
(I could be wrong. So worth confirming)
Hmmmmm, interesting, maybe it's some kind of hack? Nothing on the web, all the how to's (too's ? paranoid about spelling/grammar now! ) say that you need to use the data from your carrier........
I think I never tried it without a working SIM card, so I guess an actual data connection needs to be available for Personal Hotspot to even appear in Settings.
I just pulled my SIM and tried to set up a hotspot. My phone won’t do it until I insert a valid SIM.
But my phone is shitty Android. Since most of ya’ll probably have iPhones, maybe check on one of those. It might also depend on your carrier or service.
iPhone 5c, 3 carrier, PAYG, Data is needed to create a hotspot. Pretty sure it's the same for them all, otherwise we would all have free wifi personal hotspots everywhere we went!
As to whether (weather!!!!!) Ableton Link actually uses any data is another question. Maybe a few megabytes would last for years?
I should have double-checked before suggesting that was the case. Sorry!
I posted earlier about HooToo and Rav Power routers to provide a robust private wifi network. These are under $50, and I have run mine for days on a single charge. However, there is an even smaller and less expensive route, a version with no battery that runs off of USB power. It weighs nothing and is 2” x 1/2”. I always have one in my bag. IPhone hotspot sucks battery like nobody’s business. If you gotta plug it in and rely on it staying up, I would never trust it in a live situation. It seems like a lot of trouble to replace a 1oz piece of kit that can fit in the palm of your hand and can be had for under $20 US.
The battery powered units seem to be more robust, have a faster connection speed, and can actually support powered hard USB hard drives for file transfer. But they are added bulk and weight vs. the little guys that you don’t even notice in your bag or pocket.
All that said, I would still never trust to wireless in a gigging situation. Ethernet or interface to interface is the only way to go that doesn’t make the hair stand up on the back of my neck when I picture performance use.
I did a quick test with my regular home WiFi router. I unplugged the internet, and I was still able to use Link on 2 iPads, as well as transfer an audio file using AudioShare as the server and Readdle Documents as the client. Used an Air2 and an old iPad2.
I think I am going to have to get the mini router @wim recommended. I think that is how he is using his, just the WiFi without actually connecting to the internet.
Is this right, @wim ?
I'm confused. Surely your still using data from your service provider via the router..........
@CracklePot Yes, it can be used completely standalone, though I use it both ways.
The cool thing about it is you can have it log into your home or other WiFi and have internet access from it while hidden behind it on a private network. So, you can have the best of both worlds, or just use it standalone.
For instance, our home WiFi is hammered with traffic from Games, Netflix, etc. This causes latency and slows file transfers if I use our main router. With the HooToo, my traffic is totally isolated. I can do huge file transfers at full speed without affecting the rest of the house. But if I want to get to the internet I can still do so.
This is also great in those annoying hotels that make you go through the sign in page every time you wake up your device. You can log the router in and then connect to it instead. Since the connection never, or rarely drops, you bypass that hassle for all your wireless devices.
Oh, and since there’s an ethernet port, you can plug it directly to a hotel or work ethernet and share that connection for all devices. This is a real advantage given the flakey nature of many hotel and public WiFi networks.