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TouchOSC or Lemur?

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  • @ttk said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @ttk said:
    You guys seem so knowledgeable

    Beside Lemur, do you know which of those apps (TouchOSC, Midi designer, ...) have multitouch controls?

    Particulary a multitouch xy pad?

    As far as I remember all known controller apps support multitouch.
    I think Lemur is the only one supporting more than one X/Y control point inside an X/Y pad.

    Yeah, that's what I feared...

    So I guess it's an additional point in favor of Lemur, right?

    Lemur is by far the most powerful apps of the bunch and it's a no-brainer if you find what you need in the user library.
    If you plan to create more sophisticated user interfaces for yourself, then be prepared to spend some quality time for learning the ins and outs of it. It takes some time getting used to it. At least, user library creations are not protected so you're free to build upon other's templates if you like.

  • Never used Lemur but as a novice trying to put a decent simple or multi page controller together, Touch OSC was pretty straight forward . Granted, needing to use desk top adds hassle to the process but it’s so simple in the first place , once you’ve put a couple of midi maps together , the process is relatively quick . Superb bit of software -
    if you haven’t seen their Touch Viz app and are into making your own visuals then I’d highly recommend getting it . Outstanding control for mixing your own media or just using their own library to put together professional looking visuals for clubs or whatever ..

  • simple controllers like x-y pads and faders and such can be created inside the Lemur app. I do that from time to time when not in the studio, or create a quick template for testing.

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  • heshes
    edited May 2020

    @aplourde said:

    @brambos said:
    If you just need a bunch of sliders Mozaic would already do the trick :)

    It would be amazing if Mozaic had UI layout that was just sliders (the full 22) where you could draw over the sliders to set them instead of having to adjust each slider one-by-one.

    Fantastic for drawing a "waveform" or in a performance context.

    Please consider it!

    I have done something similar to this with Mozaic by "drawing" a curve over the xy pad to set a velocity curve. The 128 values from your xypad swipe are stored in an array. You can't "see" the curve all at once, but if you do a for/next loop over 0-127 you can cycle it over them and set the xypad values to dynamically "see" what the curve looks like on the xy pad. It would be easy enough to grab 22 of those values spaced evenly to set the values of the 10 sliders on that layout, or on the 22 knobs (if you switch to that layout after setting array values with your swipe).

  • I much prefer Lemur. You can do some amazing stuff with it. Its a shame its not being developed any longer. Or is it? TouchOSC is cool too as well as MIDI Designer. Lemur does require a certain level of knowledge and dedication. Not plug n play really. Except for messing with pre-made templates.

  • I haven't used Lemur much lately, and it appears that some functions may not work on iPad Pro tablets, namely to create, save, and load a template on the device. But using the editor software on a computer it should work. TouchOSC templates also need to be edited on a computer.

  • @Phil999 said:
    I haven't used Lemur much lately, and it appears that some functions may not work on iPad Pro tablets, namely to create, save, and load a template on the device.

    I just read this and had to test. I had no issue making a new project, saving it as a different name, then loading either of the projects to edit again. I'll admit, I'm not very knowledgeable with Lemur, so there are many other things that could cause issue as you described, but I can at least attest that initially, the functionality on a 2018 Pro is still there.

  • you are right, @tehskwrl. I read about the (non-existing) problem and made a test, but forgot to save the test template again. When one creates a template on the iPad, switches to another template, one has to save and overwrite the former template. Now I tested again, and did save correctly (overwrite), and the template is permanently saved. Sorry about the confusion, my mistake.

  • @MonkeyDrummer said:

    @rs2000 said:
    Why not start with a free app (limited to one page for controls):
    https://apps.apple.com/en/app/ctrl-for-ipad/id1247514528?l=en

    Holy WTF! Those guys are smoking crack if they think their app is worth $150! They HAVE to have the decimal in the wrong place...

    $75 and $210 CAD to unlock Core and Pro respectively 🤯

  • wimwim
    edited May 2020

    @tehskwrl said:

    @MonkeyDrummer said:

    @rs2000 said:
    Why not start with a free app (limited to one page for controls):
    https://apps.apple.com/en/app/ctrl-for-ipad/id1247514528?l=en

    Holy WTF! Those guys are smoking crack if they think their app is worth $150! They HAVE to have the decimal in the wrong place...

    $75 and $210 CAD to unlock Core and Pro respectively 🤯

    Well, the sound is astonishingly close to a real Hammond B-3 though!

  • Hiya - bumping this thread as I'm currently weighing up TouchOSC, Lemur, Sonic Logic, Mididesigner Pro & maybe some of the others listed here.

    I would like to be able to control AUM, Ableton & potentially some lighting functions from one app. I would quite like a desktop based editor too, so TouchOSC seems to appeal (plus it's only $5). Also it runs on older iOS versions so I could maybe use my older iPad for this freeing up my Pro.

    However can someone clear up this for me:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/DJs/comments/bf8j9j/touch_osc_to_control_midi_on_the_same_ipad/

    This thread suggests that TouchOSC can't control apps internally - ie Aum on the same iPad its running on. Is that true?

  • PS - just realised that Reddit question was posed by you, @Gavinski! Did you get any further with this? Dig your videos by the way.

  • I prefer lemur because you can design and edit on the iPad. However you can do much with LK now, with the midi controls and xy pad. Not as pretty, advanced or customizable though.

  • edited December 2020


    What’s useful in MDP like side car. With Aum and other IAA screens.

  • edited December 2020

  • MDP is very useful to me as a bridge between Aum and other IAA. Like side car it’s open on top on the side.
    I was disappointed Lemur is not doing that.
    Any of the other mentioned on this thread is capable of that?

  • @Frank303 said:
    I prefer lemur because you can design and edit on the iPad. However you can do much with LK now, with the midi controls and xy pad. Not as pretty, advanced or customizable though.

    Yeah, I'm enjoying LK, but there's other elements i'm going to want at hand, which is why I think i'm going to have to go with a custom controller kind of solution.

    Thanks for those screen shots @Tamir_Raz_Mataz, i hadn't thought of using it like that.

    Anyone know about the possible TouchOSC issue i mentioned above?

  • Anyone successfully using TouchOSC with AUM?

    And/or can suggest a winner (for usage with Aum/Ableton) out of Sonic Logic or Midi Designer? Ta!

  • @stalkpiece said:

    @Frank303 said:
    I prefer lemur because you can design and edit on the iPad. However you can do much with LK now, with the midi controls and xy pad. Not as pretty, advanced or customizable though.

    Yeah, I'm enjoying LK, but there's other elements i'm going to want at hand, which is why I think i'm going to have to go with a custom controller kind of solution.

    Thanks for those screen shots @Tamir_Raz_Mataz, i hadn't thought of using it like that.

    Anyone know about the possible TouchOSC issue i mentioned above?

    @stalkpiece said:
    Anyone successfully using TouchOSC with AUM?

    And/or can suggest a winner (for usage with Aum/Ableton) out of Sonic Logic or Midi Designer? Ta!

    I don't own it but wouldn't NuRack be an option?
    https://apps.apple.com/en/app/nurack-auv3-fx-processor/id1520146960?l=en

  • @rs2000 said:

    I don't own it but wouldn't NuRack be an option?
    https://apps.apple.com/en/app/nurack-auv3-fx-processor/id1520146960?l=en

    That does look interesting, but I think my needs will be best served by something that can control anything, anywhere, that can receive midi, as my setup will most likely include external pedals etc.

    My only concern with TouchOSC as mentioned is that it for some reason needs to be controlling external software rather than software like AUM on the same device as it. Anyone?

  • So I have midi designer pro 2. What I like about that is you can control other apps on the same device. Can Touch OSC and lemur do that? Does lemur have an Xy pad?

  • @iLLaFenT said:
    So I have midi designer pro 2. What I like about that is you can control other apps on the same device. Can Touch OSC and lemur do that? Does lemur have an Xy pad?

    Yes. Yes it does.

  • @zilld2017 said:

    @iLLaFenT said:
    So I have midi designer pro 2. What I like about that is you can control other apps on the same device. Can Touch OSC and lemur do that? Does lemur have an Xy pad?

    Yes. Yes it does.

    XY pad is there, but Lemur isn’t the best solution if to be used on the same device. There is no slide over support, and you can run into script reload/interruption when switching apps.
    For that MD2 is definitely better suited. Can’t comment on TouchOSC.

  • Ok great thanks. I’m waiting to hear back from the TouchOSC guys. Does anyone how to hookup TouchOSC to another app?

  • edited January 2021

    I cannot for the life of me get Touch OSC to control my plugin. I run the plugin though Audiobus. I have made a custom midi map/ and controller. they connect between apps but nothing happens when I move the knobs....?

  • @iLLaFenT said:
    Ok great thanks. I’m waiting to hear back from the TouchOSC guys. Does anyone how to hookup TouchOSC to another app?

    https://audiobombs.com/items/264/sugar-bytes-turnado-ipad-controller maybe this is helpful?

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @nondes said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @audiobussy said:
    @SevenSystems @Brambos etc Talk about low lying fruit...

    Yes I have something like MDP lying around and almost finished, but first, Xequence 2. 🙂

    Yes, please. I dig the aesthetics of Xequence. Another option of setting faders is using Xequence Keys AU without the Keys part, works pretty well

    Yah it has the Xequence asthetics and uses the standard Xequence widgets for the "design area" as well, though I plan to implement skins for those so you're a bit more flexible ;)



    Oh man. Is this ever going to see the light of day?

  • @slicetwo said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @nondes said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @audiobussy said:
    @SevenSystems @Brambos etc Talk about low lying fruit...

    Yes I have something like MDP lying around and almost finished, but first, Xequence 2. 🙂

    Yes, please. I dig the aesthetics of Xequence. Another option of setting faders is using Xequence Keys AU without the Keys part, works pretty well

    Yah it has the Xequence asthetics and uses the standard Xequence widgets for the "design area" as well, though I plan to implement skins for those so you're a bit more flexible ;)



    Oh man. Is this ever going to see the light of day?

    Oh, that's quite an old post I think that you dug up there :) I'd love to report more progress, but alas the project is sitting in a corner collecting dust. It is not extremely far from completion though and I assume it could still see the light of day at some point. No guarantees though. Thanks for the interest anyway! :)

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @slicetwo said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @nondes said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @audiobussy said:
    @SevenSystems @Brambos etc Talk about low lying fruit...

    Yes I have something like MDP lying around and almost finished, but first, Xequence 2. 🙂

    Yes, please. I dig the aesthetics of Xequence. Another option of setting faders is using Xequence Keys AU without the Keys part, works pretty well

    Yah it has the Xequence asthetics and uses the standard Xequence widgets for the "design area" as well, though I plan to implement skins for those so you're a bit more flexible ;)



    Oh man. Is this ever going to see the light of day?

    Oh, that's quite an old post I think that you dug up there :) I'd love to report more progress, but alas the project is sitting in a corner collecting dust. It is not extremely far from completion though and I assume it could still see the light of day at some point. No guarantees though. Thanks for the interest anyway! :)

    Xequence is so great! I saw that post (knowing it was old) and hoped that it was still in the cards. Perhaps one day!

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