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The web version could be in development still. If you look at any statistic of web usage people are overwhelmingly using app over the web counterpart. So being a new startup you would put a web version as pretty low in your priority list.
But I’m old what do I know 😜
@tja I’m sorry to tell you that you are wrong. Lots of people don’t own computer and their phone is the only point of access to the internet. On a phone apps make more sense than website.
https://jmango360.com/wiki-pages-trends/mobile-app-vs-mobile-website-statistics/
Google/Youtube has a page called "YouTube policies" that spells out the kinds of things that they don't allow....
https://support.google.com/youtube/topic/2803176?hl=en&ref_topic=2676378
Hate speach, cyber bulling, violence, etc.. etc..
It's all there, right up front, for anyone to read before signing up for an account.
I think the complaints relate more to the concept that certain people want to spread their specific messages in the place where it will receive the most views.
But unless and until Youtube becomes regulated like a public utility, it's just another company with it's own business model for the types of services it will provide, and for whom it will provide them for.
It only fits the point I was making that app are more popular than web site. 😃
Just looking at my 30 year old cousin I’m amaze how more efficient than me he is with a phone. I bring my tablet everywhere cause in only use my phone for texting, gps and tethering my tablet. Who calls people anymore 😂
Any 20 yrs old can weigh in the app vs website debate?
Not read the whole thread, just leaving my opinion for the OP.
The regulation of information by whomever, be it government or company, is a mightily powerful thing. There is a war raging on whom can control as much of the ‘internet of things’ as possible. Each player is positioning themselves ready to get the most gains from the power of information (and disinformation) on offer.
The relationship between a company supplying something (be it service or goods) and the customer has always been symbiotic. You Tube is nothing without the users and content creators and while the service could survive on bland cat videos and bland content for a while, without the more ‘edgy content’, people would soon look for kicks elsewhere. This leaves YouTube in a bit of a conundrum - on one side the edgy content makes them money, but to be seen to play the politically correct game, they need to be seen to controlling the content on their platform.
To complicate the matter even more, we have political agendas being played out for votes, ego and more besides. So, to sum up a time line of sorts: the internet comes of age and all see the power on offer. Those with power manipulate it for their own gains, while making sure anyone that is not ‘on message’, gets deplatformed. Eventually as in many things in life there will be those that gain and those that suffer. As with those that lack money, those that lack a voice, will struggle to be heard, while the manipulated masses will consume as much shite as can be fed to them.
Why does it matter? History has taught us that bad shit can be made to happen easier if you can only silence any decent and those that do eat the shite, find it tastes better without the bitterness of reality tainting their meal!
I thought everything I read on the web was the truth. I am shocked 😉
On my tablet I always use the YouTube app. Do you use the website on tablet or phone?
interesting point
wow, why do you think it's taking so long to get a legal definition, if there is one thing the US should be able to easily define it's that.
not a bad summary at all, count me in the camp that wants political incorrectness to be up and out front right where I can see it, I don't want anything to be swept under any rugs and as someone well versed in the understanding of the foundation of our country I can take it....
but I still think of this topic as A-political, so many problems could be solved if people would just read the fine print on the tin... it can be a very romantic notion to not read the regulations and get drunk with outrage but there are so many more things going on that are worthy of the worlds outrage , they only hurt themselves in the long run... they should put their energy into building their own network and getting bigger than youtube so that they can get right out there in the glory of all of their honesty right in all of our faces !...imho
Companies are responsible to their shareholders (or owners, if they are private), governments are responsible to their citizens. Some companies, through some creative logic, equate the good of greater society with that of their shareholders, but that's rare.
And, of course governments have more power than companies (unless things are seriously out of whack). Companies maximise their profits for their shareholders within the regulatory and legal frameworks that citizens and their governments lay down.
That's democracy. It's not perfect, but I'm in no hurry to go back to feudalism, or mercantilism.
I don’t understand your question.
While I see your point, I would add a few problems to your idea:
The requirements to push an alternative have some pretty large steps to climb. I’m not just talking about money, but legal and political will is against them. Don’t get me wrong, it is possible, but would take a collective force of will that is difficult when everything is being done to ridicule, divide and rule any decent. The ones that are close to being deplatformed that I know of, are all joining any new platforms ready.
Those that are being deplatformed are pretty much following the rules the best they can. The rules are deliberately designed to be vague so that the company can pretty much use the rules to deny access to whom they choose. This also flags up the fact that there is no independent review of the system - hence we all know it is being abused to promote a biased agenda and there is nothing we can do about it. Even if you follow the rules, you can fall foul of them.
While the people involved are making people aware of what is happening, they are mostly not playing the outrage card. They are perfectly justified in telling the truth of what is happening and it’s easy to see it happening. It’s also not just specific to one side of the political spectrum, mostly, but not totally. The side of the political divide most promoting deplatforming are going to be shocked when they come for them, as they are the ones that often feign the outrage you discuss.
In effect silencing discussion by force of law or the manipulation of rules is bad for all. I try not to use the common trope to back up opinion, but the ‘and then they came for me, and no one was there to speak up’ is very apt. We all know that those of reasonable means with their two cars, house and all the best clothes, will be more concerned about tax rates than freedom of speech. As the saying implies though, they will have no one to moan to when they are targeted and targeted they will be. Why? It’s like a run on the bank, once the masses get onto the band wagon, more freedoms will fall quicker and quicker. As The Doctor once said - ‘Don’t blink!’
my mistake, I thought the crux of your statement was an ill-defined definition of hate speech
First Am talk Radio, next Youtube, and then the world
History....right.
Written by who... "clown face"
I guess the nuance of what "adversely affects others" is the question at hand then in many respects.
That is dilemma with a subjective term or when courts no longer follow the law but rather a judge's personal philosophy or local pressure.
I think if the US government ( I am in the US so I will keep in my own house) followed the rules and conditions put forth in the constitution and laws as they now stand everything would not be so complicated.
But when politicians and political parties have blatant disregard for established law for some "greater good" and they are not held to account, the society eventually starts to break down.
If it is alright for Congresspeople to disregard laws, how can a company or even and individual not get the sense that laws, guidelines, and traditions no longer hold value in their situations because of their own justification.
Corruption works its way from the top down.
Companies.
Governments.
Societies.
Households.
IMHO
Good to see another political thread on Audiobus that still isn't closed by @Michael
Moderation started to regulate discussions. But in time people became more sensitive of what should be moderated as sensitive. I see a trend towards everything become more and more sensitive to the absurd. Especially comapanie seem to easliy give in to these absurd critics. Everything seems to become more and more in a state of fear in the internet. Which creates new generations of people the fear public opinion. The only solution is a islamist revolution and luckily we are seeing this happening in the West. Sooner than you think islam will take over.
as long as youtube keeps it's grubby little hands off of the sound testroom it'll all work out
Recent history has yet to be affected by the twisting of people over time - unless you believe that the holocaust never happened? So pull a clown face, because only a clown would believe most of recent history has been subverted beyond that which can be easily evidenced by some proper research (I don’t mean basic net searching lol).
Come on @RUST( i )K , you can do better than cheap throw away comments
Well, the silencing, dumbing down, and misdirection of the masses has been going on for years. Keep people occupied and or confused as to what is real - simply keep any questioning at bay, then do what you want. We all see the tricks big business and governments use, it’s not tin foil hat wearing, it’s just accepted as life because people hate their knowledge being questioned.
Or people like myself who are too lazy, too old and too ill to try to change the corrupt systems in society. So, I’m as much to blame as anyone else. It’s too easy for me to say fuck all you that deny any problems with our society and go fishing lol. Yep, it’s truly my fault too
It’s the new communism for the West. Makes me laugh when those that support it, will be the first thrown off the roof or stoned to death lol
There again you actually nail it.
Proper research?
Research.
That is so yesterday. I feels we are in a time that knowledge is not sought as a whole. Information appears to be the main trading capital our skin deep slogan based population.
Knowledge vs Information. That is the battle at hand.
Unfortunately, information is being passed off as knowledge by the multitudes. When the information is challenged with fact based information acquired through reason and knowledge, a person is subjugated to some negative classification or label in an attempt to discredit them as an individual.
Then those who control the information on the internet well, control .........like a like really like lot of stuff and people .....
We have a newly emerging world where people lacking knowledge or education use information to somehow elevate one's intellectual standing or reenforce a socio-political doxy.
The internet is an information medium for all intensive purposes.
That being the case I guess the bigger question goes deeper.
Why are so many people lacking solid educational backgrounds or intellectual curiosity that allows for an entire world view and philosophy based on internet memes and social media trends.
Clown face.
I suppose I acquired my questioning skills from my nurses training years back. You make great points this time, but I still don’t get you pulling a clown face, unless you are watching Stephen Kings It
Anyhoo I’m off to do something more fun now, so fuck you all (in a nice way of course)
Nurse.
Impressive.
Clown face is merely because that commercial is stuck in my mind....LOL
FUck you too.
LOL