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Xequence 2 is now available!

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  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @Monome said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @Monome said:
    I think Xequence2 is amazing. If only I had more time I would definitely spend more time with it, learning to use it and probably following the advice of integrating AudioBus in the workflow. Now, I'm just a "bedroom musician" and want something fast to build a harmony for my Linnstrument jams, or setting up some generative sequencer to fiddle with the last synth I've purchased. Recording it in MIDI would be great, so I can come back to it later and work on it. And Xequence is such a fine product that I can't avoid thinking "what if..." whatever the original intention of @SevenSystems with it.
    I could pick Proton sequencer, that could do but not as it is now. It doesn't work.

    So no demands on @SevenSystems here, just wishing. He's done a wonderful work already and keeps on working on it.

    Thanks for the kind feedback which is always appreciated a lot. I do take all customer requests seriously and try to accomodate them somewhere on the roadmap -- but at its current length, implementing everything on that map would take a skyscraper with 1000 developers 3 years to get it done! :D

    No problem, @SevenSystems It's me who says thanks.
    May I ask what is on roadmap? Or is it too much to ask? :smile:

    I can show a downsized screenshot so you can get a feel for the length ;)

    (that's only the MIDI-related stuff. All potential Audio/AU/DAW-like stuff is on a different roadmap :neutral: )

    Damn. Apparently even gigapixel ai cannot perform enough magic to make this screenshot legible :(

    Haha. At least you can see it's well-structured through indentation ;)

  • robklotzbyrobklotzby

    @wim said:

    @FatPudding said:
    I'm new to iPad music production, may I ask what the benefits of auv3 would be?

    For Xequence specifically? Or for other apps such as synths and FX?

    Hi again Wim,
    have you worked with animoog and x2? I’m trying to control the animoog 4-track recorder, but I don’t manage so sync start the recorder from x2.

  • robklotzbyrobklotzby

    anyone experience with addressing the sounds of beatmaker 3 in x2?
    I have problems with the drum kits. Only the first sound is addressed and in key mode.
    Thx in advance.

  • FatPuddingFatPudding

    I've just set up X2 and ab3 to use on my digitakt and all I can say is X2 is amazing and really comes into it's own with the digi. I can generate random drums and a baseline with rozeta, record and edit the tracks in X2, play along with X2 etc. And then, when I have something I like, simply record it into the digi and tweek further in that. I honestly can't recommend this enough now. I've made more patterns today then I have In the last 12 months just using the hardware
    Thanks for all your hardwork making this. You're a star

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @FatPudding said:
    I've just set up X2 and ab3 to use on my digitakt and all I can say is X2 is amazing and really comes into it's own with the digi. I can generate random drums and a baseline with rozeta, record and edit the tracks in X2, play along with X2 etc. And then, when I have something I like, simply record it into the digi and tweek further in that. I honestly can't recommend this enough now. I've made more patterns today then I have In the last 12 months just using the hardware
    Thanks for all your hardwork making this. You're a star

    Thanks a lot for your kind feedback! I guess I'm a star in a few very niche things, but a royal failure in most others (especially those that actually matter 😜).

    It's also always interesting to see more people use Xequence with hardware and utilize its clock output.

    @robklotzby said:
    anyone experience with addressing the sounds of beatmaker 3 in x2?
    I have problems with the drum kits. Only the first sound is addressed and in key mode.
    Thx in advance.

    Sorry, I must have missed your question. I'm no BM3 expert by any measure -- anyone else happen to know how to map BM3's pads to individual notes instead of chromatically?

  • FatPuddingFatPudding
    edited April 2020

    @SevenSystems said:

    @FatPudding said:
    I've just set up X2 and ab3 to use on my digitakt and all I can say is X2 is amazing and really comes into it's own with the digi. I can generate random drums and a baseline with rozeta, record and edit the tracks in X2, play along with X2 etc. And then, when I have something I like, simply record it into the digi and tweek further in that. I honestly can't recommend this enough now. I've made more patterns today then I have In the last 12 months just using the hardware
    Thanks for all your hardwork making this. You're a star

    Thanks a lot for your kind feedback! I guess I'm a star in a few very niche things, but a royal failure in most others (especially those that actually matter 😜).

    It's also always interesting to see more people use Xequence with hardware and utilize its clock output.

    I've actually got the digi synced to ab3. Would it be better synced to X2 instead?
    This is one thing I don't really understand tbh. What should be synced you what etc. ATM X2 and ab3 and synced with Ableton link and then ab3 is synced to the digi with midi clock

  • buskerbusker
    edited April 2020

    @SevenSystems is there any reason why there should be a small delay when using the drumpads? I can hear the tap of my fingers on the screen, and then a gap before the drum sound plays. It's throwing off my finger drumming. iPad Pro 2017 12.9".

    When connecting a keyboard and playing through that, there is no (noticeable) latency.

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @busker said:
    @SevenSystems is there any reason why there should be a small delay when using the drumpads? I can hear the tap of my fingers on the screen, and then a gap before the drum sound plays. It's throwing off my finger drumming. iPad Pro 2017 12.9".

    When connecting a keyboard and playing through that, there is no (noticeable) latency.

    There is a slight processing delay between the touch input and the actual transmission of the MIDI message. It might be more noticeable with touch input in general than with hardware controllers.

    Can you compare with a different app that also has drumpads? Is it noticeably worse in Xequence? Are you using Xequence proper or the "Xequence AU | Pads" plugin?

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @FatPudding said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @FatPudding said:
    I've just set up X2 and ab3 to use on my digitakt and all I can say is X2 is amazing and really comes into it's own with the digi. I can generate random drums and a baseline with rozeta, record and edit the tracks in X2, play along with X2 etc. And then, when I have something I like, simply record it into the digi and tweek further in that. I honestly can't recommend this enough now. I've made more patterns today then I have In the last 12 months just using the hardware
    Thanks for all your hardwork making this. You're a star

    Thanks a lot for your kind feedback! I guess I'm a star in a few very niche things, but a royal failure in most others (especially those that actually matter 😜).

    It's also always interesting to see more people use Xequence with hardware and utilize its clock output.

    I've actually got the digi synced to ab3. Would it be better synced to X2 instead?
    This is one thing I don't really understand tbh. What should be synced you what etc. ATM X2 and ab3 and synced with Ableton link and then ab3 is synced to the digi with midi clock

    I guess whichever works best for you -- there's so many possible combinations and sync technologies that it's hard to give a generic recommendation.

  • buskerbusker

    @SevenSystems said:

    @busker said:
    @SevenSystems is there any reason why there should be a small delay when using the drumpads? I can hear the tap of my fingers on the screen, and then a gap before the drum sound plays. It's throwing off my finger drumming. iPad Pro 2017 12.9".

    When connecting a keyboard and playing through that, there is no (noticeable) latency.

    There is a slight processing delay between the touch input and the actual transmission of the MIDI message. It might be more noticeable with touch input in general than with hardware controllers.

    Can you compare with a different app that also has drumpads? Is it noticeably worse in Xequence? Are you using Xequence proper or the "Xequence AU | Pads" plugin?

    This is with Xequence 2.

    I just tried Mosiac with the pad layout and the response is close to the external keyboard response. Xequence seems to have a more noticeable delay. I would prefer to use the Xequence pads though of course, as they are integrated and more flexible in terms of customizing the layout. The MIDI prebuffer wouldn’t be affecting this, right?

    The mind can compensate for latency to some degree, but it seems there is just enough latency that my fingers start to fumble when performing a faster beat, while I’m ok with the external controller (and Mosiac as well it seems). For what it’s worth, I have the same issue with latency sometimes when playing guitar through an effects chain, so I may just be sensitive.

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems
    edited April 2020

    @busker said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @busker said:
    @SevenSystems is there any reason why there should be a small delay when using the drumpads? I can hear the tap of my fingers on the screen, and then a gap before the drum sound plays. It's throwing off my finger drumming. iPad Pro 2017 12.9".

    When connecting a keyboard and playing through that, there is no (noticeable) latency.

    There is a slight processing delay between the touch input and the actual transmission of the MIDI message. It might be more noticeable with touch input in general than with hardware controllers.

    Can you compare with a different app that also has drumpads? Is it noticeably worse in Xequence? Are you using Xequence proper or the "Xequence AU | Pads" plugin?

    This is with Xequence 2.

    I just tried Mosiac with the pad layout and the response is close to the external keyboard response. Xequence seems to have a more noticeable delay. I would prefer to use the Xequence pads though of course, as they are integrated and more flexible in terms of customizing the layout. The MIDI prebuffer wouldn’t be affecting this, right?

    No, the MIDI pre-buffer is only for playback from the sequencer.

    The mind can compensate for latency to some degree, but it seems there is just enough latency that my fingers start to fumble when performing a faster beat, while I’m ok with the external controller (and Mosiac as well it seems). For what it’s worth, I have the same issue with latency sometimes when playing guitar through an effects chain, so I may just be sensitive.

    There definitely might be slightly more overhead in touch processing in Xequence than in certain other apps -- I noticed it too a while back and it has been optimized back then, but there's still one more abstraction layer between touches and the MIDI output which could be culled -- but it would be a rather significant development effort (easier for the pads, much harder for the keyboard).

    I'll add this to the "investigate" short (haha) list though.

    BTW: being sensitive to latency is a GOOD thing! I'm far more sensitive to it than most people, and other similar things -- for example, any movie below 30 fps looks like a slideshow to me! :D

  • buskerbusker

    @SevenSystems purely out of curiosity, how hard would it be to implement MIDI-only AU support? I'm thinking about things like note-generators, alternate keyboards, Mosaic/Streambyter, etc.

    It would be really awesome to have this stuff accessible from within Xequence. Is it possible to avoid AU audio altogether, and would that make things significantly easier?

  • SpookyZooSpookyZoo
    edited May 2020

    @busker are you using BT headphones?

  • FatPuddingFatPudding

    @busker said:
    @SevenSystems purely out of curiosity, how hard would it be to implement MIDI-only AU support? I'm thinking about things like note-generators, alternate keyboards, Mosaic/Streambyter, etc.

    I'd love to see this so I could just use X2 to sequence my hardware

  • buskerbusker

    @SpookyZoo said:
    @busker are you using BT headphones?

    No way, the latency would be far beyond acceptable :)

    It's everything wired for me here (headphones, keyboards, etc.)

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @busker said:
    @SevenSystems purely out of curiosity, how hard would it be to implement MIDI-only AU support? I'm thinking about things like note-generators, alternate keyboards, Mosaic/Streambyter, etc.

    It would be really awesome to have this stuff accessible from within Xequence. Is it possible to avoid AU audio altogether, and would that make things significantly easier?

    That would definitely be easier than audio AU support, but still quite a big undertaking to do it right (and IF something is added to Xequence, it WILL be done right! ;) ). While the technical implementation itself may not be extremely daunting, the main points to consider are how to integrate it well with the user interface, sequencer, keyboard, and what kind of flexibility (or not) regarding routing etc. to offer.

    It is something that I definitely consider, but it is closer to the end of the roadmap for now (i.e., around Mars or Jupiter considering its length! :) )

  • auxmuxauxmux
    edited May 2020

    This may have been asked before, but I recorded a midi clip with multiple midi channels using Proton AU. I want to import that as separate tracks into Xequence? Is there a way to do that?

    When I tried, everything is imported into a single track in Xequence 2. I validated that the file in Proton is recording to separate channels. Thanks.

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @auxmux said:
    This may have been asked before, but I recorded a midi clip with multiple midi channels using Proton AU. I want to import that as separate tracks into Xequence? Is there a way to do that?

    Hi -- sorry, currently Xequence can only split imported MIDI files by actual tracks, not channels. However, this is a feature that is close to the top of the roadmap to be added soon and has been requested a lot.

    Maybe loading the MIDI file(s) in an app that DOES split by channels, and then re-exporting a MIDI file that has separate tracks and importing that into Xequence would be an option?

  • auxmuxauxmux

    Thanks @SevenSystems for the reply. This would be a game changer. Hopefully it can be added soon. Is there an iOS app that supports splitting channels to tracks?

  • Samflash3Samflash3
    edited May 2020

    @Samflash3 said:
    @wim @SevenSystems I was hoping you might be able to help me with this. I'm trying to use MF Keyboard (via Audiobus 3) to act as an input for Xequence 2 but I'm not having any luck with it. I planned on using it to control Gadget 2 but I can't think of anything. I even experimented with Gadget 2 Taipei but it's not working either. Any advice?

    Had a bit of flashback to this post. I remember when I new to the forum and was trying to understand how to route MIDI via Xequence. I had watched @TheAudioDabbler Xequence tutorial like 3 times and I remember buying most of the IAPs of Xequence 1, just to find out that Xequence 2 was released a few weeks later. Man, I was a bit upset. Plus, I had 2 Apple devices so I kept seeing that Xequence tutorial screen every single time I tapped on an icon. That drove me nuts.

    But I'm looking back and thinking how far I've come in iOS production. I just made an Audiobus 3 patch for Reason Compact using the same app I was having difficulties in using. And I found a workaround that will work for the MIDI question I had. And it's been a wild ride but I'm thankful for the help @wim. Also, thanks @SevenSystems for making this app.

    I'm saying this part more to myself as a way to keep me in check. I can only be a man of my word if I say what I need to say.

  • AileromAilerom

    Can it load auv3 like Modstep? Or just a midi controller that has to be routed to another app to make sound?

  • wimwim
    edited May 2020

    @Ailerom said:
    Can it load auv3 like Modstep? Or just a midi controller that has to be routed to another app to make sound?

    Just a midi controller. A really, really good one.

  • AileromAilerom

    Thanks

    Modstep auv3 loading works for me, but the workflow doesn't. Xseq looks like great workflow but not so much the no auv3 loaing.

  • wimwim
    edited May 2020

    @Ailerom said:
    Thanks

    Modstep auv3 loading works for me, but the workflow doesn't. Xseq looks like great workflow but not so much the no auv3 loaing.

    Nanostudio 2 has many similarities as far as midi editing goes, and can deal with most AUv3’s. No audio tracks, and no AUFX automation though.

  • SpookyZooSpookyZoo
    edited May 2020

    @auxmux said:
    This may have been asked before, but I recorded a midi clip with multiple midi channels using Proton AU. I want to import that as separate tracks into Xequence? Is there a way to do that?

    When I tried, everything is imported into a single track in Xequence 2. I validated that the file in Proton is recording to separate channels. Thanks.

    @auxmux said:
    Thanks @SevenSystems for the reply. This would be a game changer. Hopefully it can be added soon. Is there an iOS app that supports splitting channels to tracks?

    I think I previously used Cubasis2 for this task.

  • GrimLuckyGrimLucky

    @auxmux said:
    Thanks @SevenSystems for the reply. This would be a game changer. Hopefully it can be added soon. Is there an iOS app that supports splitting channels to tracks?

    I think I previously used Cubasis2 for this task.

    Audio Evolution does this as well I think

  • robklotzbyrobklotzby

    @wim said:

    @robklotzby said:
    How can I make x2 record a beat from jazz drummer or rock drummer?

    1. In X2, enable "Virtual Source" in Settings > MIDI / Recording > MIDI Output
    2. In X2, enable Link and Link Start/Stop
    3. in X2, set Count-In to zero bars.
    4. In RockDM enable Link and Link Start/Stop
    5. In RockDM MIDI settings enable MIDI Out to Xequence Destination, and make sure the "Send Notes" button at the top right is enabled.
    6. Press record in X2. Rock DM often includes a cymbal crash after fills, so you probably want to record an extra bar if your beat ends with a fill.

    Settings are probably similar in Jazz Drummer. I don't have it to check though.

    When you want to play back from X2, you just need to set the MIDI output destination to Rock DM, and in Rock DM enable "Sound Module".

    Hope it helps...

    Hi Wim, I have experienced that when you playback a recorded midisequence from x2, jazz drummer or soft drummer only recognizes some of the recorded midi events ( or they fail to connect to the recorded drum Sound). The played back sequence ( with sound module enabled in drummer) ist only a very rudimentary one.

    Any idea on this ?

    Rgds Rob

  • HypervoxHypervox

    Hi. Has anyone had a problem moving midi tracks between instruments in Xequence 2? I have no problem moving imported tracks down in the arranger window, but sometimes I’m unable to move them up without either zooming in/out or selecting/deselecting/selecting the track in question....

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @Hypervox said:
    Hi. Has anyone had a problem moving midi tracks between instruments in Xequence 2? I have no problem moving imported tracks down in the arranger window, but sometimes I’m unable to move them up without either zooming in/out or selecting/deselecting/selecting the track in question....

    Hey. Could you possibly make a short video that shows the issue? I'm not entirely sure I understand the problem correctly. But if it's a bug, it'll be fixed ASAP. :)

  • HypervoxHypervox

    Here you go...

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