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On another forum, there's a Linnstrument user who claims that he has yet to encounter a hardware MPE synth that meets all his requirements. For example, he tried Micromonsta and he said it has no channel filtering. In MPE, each note of a chord takes its own MIDI channel, so I kind of get why he wants channel filtering.
I didn't ask him what issues he had with Deckard's Dream, which is quite a bit on the higher end of hardware MPE synths - expense-wise
No idea why the competing Argon synth is also monotimbral. You need support for multiple MIDI channels to have a prayer of MPE being implemented - the site doesn't mention it.
Right, the parent company of ASM is Medeli. The president of ASM is the daughter of the founder of Medeli, and apparently still holds a leadership position within Medeli.
On another forum, somebody raised a stink about the Chinese connection, but a lot of popular gear is made in HK/China for companies that don't appear to be Chinese - eg. Arturia, the Big B, etc.
http://www.medeli.com.hk/technology
When I first heard of MPE I was interested, but the more I learned about it and thought about how I like to make music, the less interested I became. This seemed to parallel my improvements as a guitarist and violinist/violist. I'm content to use synths, sequencers, and associated electronics for what they're best at, and use guitar/violin for lead lines instead of trying to rely on an MPE controller.
It doesn't help that the other fellow who has been touring with a Linnstrument feels that there are no fully functional MPE hardware synths - according to him, they all have some kind of problem, whether it's MIDI channel filtering, note handling, connectivity, modulation, etc. He's using an iPad for synth duties - which he considers a compromise but I guess its ok enough for members of this forum.
My money is on the Modal Argon8. I haven’t heard any sounds from the hydrasynth that couldn’t easily be replicated on the Blofeld. The Argon8 just seem to have a more lush sound to it. But Modal should’ve slapped a 4 octave keybed on it though.
it's ugly though Chris... I know it's not supposed to matter lol
And some other people think Argon is prettier than Hydrasynth. Yay, variety
I think the Modal is gorgeous (non production in the video though). Also has a Fatar keybed so that's a nice plus. I really was liking what I was hearing in the SonicLab demo. Alot.
I think I've only seen one person say Argon is ugly.
it is ugly though, the question is how many have said it twice
wait a minute just took another gander I guess it's not so bad, at first it was reminding me of the original oxygen 8 midi controller lol..... today it's looking better, enough to be in the 'sound is all that matters' realm for sure. I'll have to upgrade it from two uglies to a 'meh, but how does it sound'..
Apparently Argon8 is $700.
Listened to more Argon8 demos. Can't say there's a clear winner for me when it comes to sound alone. I know peeps have said Argon sounds "warmer" but unfortunately, my ears were ruined by trying a PPG Wave 2.3 in person. Haven't heard any wavetable synth sound as "analog"-like as that PPG.
Now before Peak/Summit owners get angry at me, let me just concede that I only heard the Peak once at a show, and the person using it was more focused on noise/ambient stuff than trying to make the Peak sound like some classic 80s polysynth or whatever.
I'm not looking for a wavetable/wavescanner synth to sound like an analog synth, personally. If I want an analog element, I can always layer MS-20 Mini or something.
Yeah it's not exactly a colorful lil thing, but will probably stand the test of times better perhaps lol
I've listened some more and I got no idea right now, the hydrasynth looks like it might be more fun to create sounds on. I've would've looked at the desktop version, but they removed too many knobs on that one, including envelope amount for the filter which is bluuaaarrgh
Good thing (for my “savings”) the KB is not 5-octaves, otherwise my GAS pedal would be completely on the floor. It sounds, performs, and looks the business. I’m betting that ASM has / will have another larger model in the pipeline. Especially with the overwhelmingly positive reception the two versions of Hydrasynth are getting.
Also, they could totally rake in the money by making a MIDI controller KB like this. 61-key with the poly-AT, and a ribbon controller (or two). Would be snapped up by those wanting a MPE-like experience, but are not completely comfortable with the Roli line or Linnstrument, as great as they may be.
Finally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=JzuLisp6T_Q
So.... anyone get a Hydrasynth? If so, thoughts and impressions of it? 😊
Cool sounds only demo from Perfect Circuit:
I received mine yesterday. The initial impression was I didn't like it too much, its very digital indeed, yes I know it is and flaunts it, but its very shrill. Also all the presents absolutely suck in my personal opinion, they are so predictable and boring (I'm not into bread and butter).
After a few hours I'd managed to get some interesting evolving soundscapes out of it a bit similar to my Virus and started to like it more, but its very easy for this synth to sound digital and shrill. It'll take a few weeks to explore it and learn how to tame it and make sounds to my liking and decide if its a keeper or not.
Its good for tweaking, menu diving is minimal. For hands-on knob tweaking it not as good as a Peak though.
That desktop version has really caught my eye with the built in pads for playing, I wish more modules had that.
Must....not.... buy... another synth.....
I ended up backing out of my pre-order when I got the "It's here!" call from Sweetwater as I started feeling like @mungbeans. I was sucked in by the workflow and sneak release hype, but didn't really care for the sound. Still holding out for a Summit instead.
Its very useful indeed, however you have to press them fairly hard. When I was previewing the presets yesterday I was pressing the pads for each preset to audition them, before I got to the end of the presets my fingers got sore and I had to switch to using my thumb.
It does sound very very sharp, the feature set is awesome though. Its tough to justify high price for a digital synth when there is software, still I'm still undecided about this synth. Look forward to the sounds on youtube.
If it had more voices, I'd be sold. Blofeld is 64 voices and 16 part multitimbral. Digital shouldn't be so limited.
Hmm... that is good to know, thanks. Hopefully, the pads loosen up a little. Maybe give them some wine... always works on me, lol. Of course, one could use a midi keyboard for the majority of the time, while using the pads when poly-aftertouch is desired. Have fun with it! 😊
Well, the Summit is an awesome machine. Don’t have one, but it seems to be what I had hoped the Prophet 12 had been. If you can swing it, it could be a real treasure. From the demos I’ve heard, it can be beefy or bizarre. With knobs and sliders aplenty...
First time I went through the presets I was using ear plugs (good quality ones, but ear plugs nonetheless).
I went through the presets again but this time with a pair of headphones and using the KB-1 on the iPad in chord mode instead of using the built-in pads. And it made a huge differen - with the ear plugs there's no bass/bottom end/beef and so the sharp shirll digital harshness takes up all the spectrum.
With a pair of headphones (I used Sony MDR-7506) it sounds much much better - there's more beefyness now to all the presets which makes them sound less harsh and sharp, now presets I had previously written off sound a lot better and I'm going to use several of them as starting points.
The sonic state review changed my mind in how it sounds, tons of depth and even warmth to it IMO.
I still want this, but going to hold off until I can check out Super6 from udo
I still want this, but going to hold off until I can check the couch cushions and swear jar for at least $800. 😄
Hahaha I feel ya!