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The only way for the online editor to work is if google gave us the full version of Chrome on iOS and then we would have web-midi. Since google couldnt even make a full version of any of their software on their own chrome book, i dont see this happening for iOS. So that being said, going to hop on over to the other thread since there is someone actually talking to us about apps and the new Launchpads. We need to ask, and Im guessing nicely for Novation to give us Components for iOS.
I went to the Novation pop up store in London today for a free Ableton lesson and a chance to play with the new Launchpad hardware. It was much fun and thanks to John and team for being a great instructor/host. The x seemed really nice although for me, it is weird that there are no transport controls (although there are work-arounds).
I did mention the lack of iOS editor as an issue for our community so let’s watch this space.
FWIW, I met a young DJ there who seems very promising (might be some relation).
Launchpad X arrived today, it’s lovely.
@echoopera @crony You both have the X right?
Have you noticed a curve inwards on all 4 sides towards the middle of the Launchpad?
It’s subtle, and feels ok ergonomically.
Just wanna make sure this curve was intentional.
Yep. I have one. Honestly didn’t notice but i will have a look.
@SpookyZoo yes I do have the X, but nope, haven't noticed this curve...
But I didn't use to fade some levels neither...
Probably a better way of showing it, but there’s a few mm gap bowed in at the middle. Both ends of the ruler are flush against the unit at the ends. This is the same on all 4 sides.
It’s ok and kinda seems a deliberate design, but better to be sure.
There's a lot of very bright leds on it. It will definitely be class compliant but I doubt it will be powered by ipad. I hope launchkey mk3 and the new launchpads will get a low power mode. Still not sure if the hardware will allow for low enough draw > @SMKArtist said:
I’ve read somewhere that all of the browsers on iOS have to piggy back on safari so no matter what google do it’s ultimately down to Apple it seems.
Cool!
Did you happen to notice if they had a SUMMIT synth in the store?
I’m thinking I’ll pop in one day next week.
Y> @SpookyZoo said:
I am not sure-they had a rack of synth/controller hardware and there might have been a summit there.
Just mapped 8 horizontal faders to the ribbon and mix amount on the Eventide collection. Colour coding is very useful.
Sand was the closest shade to UltraTap, black for Blackhole seems fitting as you have no idea where the fader is (unless you look at the screen)
Little pad is big fun!
Is this and the launchpad app the best way to have an Ableton live clip launcher style experience on iOS? I read somewhere on the forum that you can load an entire track as a one shot so you could in theory play a set with this?
The BlocsWave Launchpad (full versions) combination is not too far away from session view in Live. You can send your nicely sliced and EQed Blocs project to Launchpad with one tap and using the solo/mute and effects in Launchpad gives you a lot of options.
Groovebox synths sound excellent (again you need the paid version to get access to the full instrument controls and effects)
Those 3 combined are very powerful, especially if you're using Ableton for the final arrangement and mixdown.
Loading full tracks in Launchpad wouldn't be ideal for playing a liveset (unless all your tracks were at the same tempo!)
I like to hear things go wrong occasionally if it's a artist using machines that I've paid to see.
I know this doesn’t look so pretty, but it plays lovely.
Used widgets to build a tactile version of the SoundPrism layout.
So the notes of C major scale rise vertically in 3rds (D-F-A-C-E-G-B) from the bottom notes of D (red) to the top B (yellow). C is the green middle row.
Horizontally are the octaves from 0 to 7.
SoundPrism was one of my favourite apps and the layout makes playing inversions and sevenths super easy. To play and remember positions.
The custom pages don’t have the transposing option on the device so this layout is rigid to C Major / A minor. It’s great for getting ideas over as midi. Transposition can be done after in another app if needed.
Have to say the components editor for adding the widgets feels clunky atm. There’s no use of the arrows or tabs from keyboard so there’s a lot of ‘to and froing’ with the computer mouse/trackpad.
Would like to see copy/paste of widgets you have already placed and setup. Also a way to universally change or override the midi channels of all controls on the page.
Happy with the Launchpad X though. Had it working well in Ableton too.
In some ways Launchpad app is even better than Ableton Live, the ‘Transpose Project to Key’ is Revolutionary.. I guess in conjunction with Blocs Wave you can do stuff like do what you want.. They work well together..
Amplify is taking their sweet time showing off (video) their Launchpad X\Mini Mk3 ‘integration. with the Launchpad App..
And potentially what they have planned to build on this integration..
Thanks for this.
Good point about tracks needing to be the same tempo.
I won’t be playing live anytime soon
I just know that a lot of musicians are basically producers and can’t reproduce their songs live with synths as they’re far too complex. So they use Ableton live to effectively just play their tracks but with a bit of remixing and improvisation with loops and effects.
I’m interested in recreating a setup like this to experiment with on iOS.
Sounds great and makes me want to buy a launchpad at some point
That’s amazing integration and another excellent @jakoB_haQ video. Jakob: how would you integrate Groovebox into this workflow? Is there a seamless way to send into Launchpad? (Trying to avoid all the second-stage opening in dragging of clips onto pads in Launchpad.) Or would it be best to go through Blocs Wave?
When using the Launchpad X with the Launchpad iOS app, launching clips and adjusting volumes faders are sending out unwanted midi note messages which are triggering other connected synths.
Has anyone found a setting to alter this behaviour?
@echoopera @crony @AndyPlankton @AmpifyxNovation
Cheers
Launchpad/Blocs/Groovebox apps combined with Launchpad and Launchkey hardware is almost perfect for this....some of the workflow for building your sessions isn't yet perfect, but rewards for me are worth it. Once you have your sessions and just want to perform them..I haven't had a better experience (desktop or otherwise)
Use blocs as the central repository and main build tool for the session, build patterns with Groovebox, use Launchpad for the main performance, have Groovebox on hand during the performance for those improvisations, or when you want to loop patterns and tweak the synth in real time.
You can do all this from the controllers without having to touch the screen at all, apart initial loading and switching songs.
btw, this isn't anything new that has come about because of the new controllers, it works just the same with the older MK2 controllers too.
I don't think you can from within the app, LP hardware is sending out MIDI, so you'll need to filter those messages from other apps...disable Launchpad as a MIDI input in those apps or use AB/AUM to filter MIDI from LP.
If you need to separate your user pages so that your other gear DOES respond to those still, set your custom page to use a MIDI channel other than 1....then in you AB/AUM filtering, stop anything on Channel 1 from the LP hardware.
I haven't actually tried this yet....as I got lost in using the apps (GB ignores the LP (I think) so doesn't show the same problem)...but that is the theory...
This is not new... I suppose you need to filter the incoming midi to other apps. It's a PITA when I use Launchpad alongside GarageBand but in the end I get just one app for device so no true issue (for me of course). Another issue is switching apps and communication getting disconnected from app to launch device so I can't see what's happening in background...
@AmpifyxNovation take note, please...
@AndyPlankton we were writting at same time... so lovely
@SpookyZoo that's weird, I have two outputs from the X, the first is DAW out , and there's a 2nd one ( can't remember the name)
The daw output is sending midi messages to Launchapps, I just don't use this one. The other one is not sending the message from the pads while running Launchpad App. (didn't test with BlocWave nor Groovebox) and I use this one into AUM to send midi messages to my controllers and synths...
Aha, of course! Thanks.
These settings don’t trigger the synth now...
Actually this is one thing I’ve been pleasantly surprised about. The Launchpad X does still display the session clips even when the app is in background.
Thanks for the tips guys. Was hoping not to have to go the ‘filtering route’.
Looks to be working well with these settings.
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haha
@SpookyZoo There is method behind the launch's behaviour with the apps and background.......
When connecting a Launchpad and having the LP app running it is assumed that you want to use the hardware to control the app....so LP hardware stays with LP app session.....
When connecting a Launchkey, it is not as good an assumption that you just want it to control GB.
this is why Launchpad stays lit with Launchpad app...but Launchkey only shows GB when GB is in the foreground......
I use this all the time, load launchpad app, then load GB and keep GB in foreground, it means I have control over both apps at the same time from the controllers with no interaction with the screen needed
Good discovery
I hadn't gone so far as to see which of these 'devices' the apps were communicating on.....the Launchkey has the same setup.
With both the controllers you use the session mode when controlling the Ampify apps, I assume then that Session mode sends to the DAW output, and that the custom or user pages send to the MIDI output.
so there's a way to keep control over Launchpad App meanwhile I have it in background? (yes I'm using a launchkey... again)
I had the extra note issue (but never took the time to filter the midi 'cause I'm too lazy
) but also I want to play at the same time I launch some clips from the synth screen (GarageBand or Gospel musicians apps...) makes sense?
With Launchpad hardware yes, not with Launchkey.....in fact I don't think the new Launchkey mini controls the Launchpad app at all.
Brilliant, thank you
Thanks!
I still hope @AmpifyxNovation releases a footpedal (with hub?) for those of use we (even having a launchkey and had too many launch series over the years) need foot control over Launchpad app... so obviously also led feedback on the background...