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R.I.P. KRFT
Came late to the this app - at a time when the KRFT server had already been turned off.
Now studioamlpify.com is gone -and so are the help links- and KRFT is no longer in the app store.
Too bad - I hardly knew you, KRFT, and it appears you had so much potential!!
Anyone still actively using KRFT? What are you employing it for?
And if you have stopped using KRFT - what made you drop it?
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I used for a bit in various ways but the only ‘all on IPad’ setup I came up with was with NS2 and I absolutely loved it. But I more or less shelved NS2 until audio tracks come (thinking of rethinking that).
Anyway I still am really looking forward to using it again when I get back to NS2. So sweet.
So are we still able to backup and restore apps in cases like this?
I trailed off using it when the server stopped working leaving no way to transfer surfaces from one device to another. I will still probably dabble in it from time to time as I do still really like it.
How were you using it with NS2?
Sending notes, controlling macros and sending Turnado dial levels. It all Linked so well and recorded perfectly. But then the siren call of BM3 audio chopping lured me back. I do wonder if I would have been better off sticking with NS2 and KRFT the last ten months... part of me says ‘yup’.
Think Ive had this in my “new” folder for a year but never got past playing with a couple presets. it looked cool, still worth learning?
If getting addicted to what seems to be complete un-reinstall-able abandonware does not scare you, then yes.
Nooo. It was a superb app. Bought in a June during a sale and didn’t regret at all.
So bad news.
Now that is the definition of brave.
Nope, not unless you still have a version of itunes that backs up apps (and the ability to restore them to your device).
I got a new iphone recently, tried to install krft without success (wouldn’t download). Still run it on my mini, it’s got some lovely sounds, and remains one of the funnest ways to perform a song live.
@AudioGus @Pitje - Ouch to the non-re-installability. This has become ghostware now, not just abandonware!
Also showing that capabilities relying on a service do require someone to fully continue to stand behind it. And not just downloadable IAPs may be affected!
I wish KRFT could have been considered in the interface discussion with Gestrument - GeoShredder - TC-Data.
Was its UI model too different? Was it too difficult to get something useful going with it in a few minutes?
Was it too idiosyncratic what people built and shared (or not)? Or is it the business model that failed, not the app?
(I got here after the party and only see a clean slate.)
This is the problem with surfing the wave of IOS innovation folks ... not just instruments that are being experimented with but also "monetisation" strategies... subscriptions and the like. I suspect most of these wild-eyed accountant's schemes are duds. Just as well we're not talking desktop money.
That’s the price of iOS.
I think most iOS apps just don't turn a profit. Even good apps can not make money just like good music.
In the case of KRFT I think a lot of people did not like the setup time of creating a new ‘surface’ but I enjoyed it. Once I figured hooking it up ipad to ipad to make surfaces and then transfering from the one ipad to the other for solo use it got even easier, but alas without the server that is not as much of an option. But even just setting up on one iPad was fine for me. Sounds like they had some cool ideas and plans for X/Y pads etc.
I can’t believe it. I thought it was installed on my iPad and it was not. So I search in my purchased list and it has disappeared 😭
Cosm disappeared too. Luckily I have both installed on my phone still but it’s a bummer
These guys could have changed the game if they played the long game. They had the talent and the willingness to listen to users. But they played the short game. I don't begrudge them at all. Folks gotta get paid to eat etc.
But I look at KRFT vs what Tim exile is doing with Endlesss and well. Tim is playing the long game.
Pity is that KRFT was a brilliant, apparently highly functional app. Not one of those slowly sinking Titanics that are taking on more and more water with subsequent OS releases.
Perhaps if its model had been more open (a la Mozaic / patchstorage), there might have been less baggage and more staying power. As of now, its demise does leave a little bit of an undesired aftertaste (it was still listed during BF sales).
For now, it appears that a quest for a meta-controller (layered above AUM or APeM) may need to scale TC-Data and/or Midi Designer. Shame that - KRFT had already come closest!
That is a bummer. I wonder why they chose to make it unavailable for re-download,
I think it probably has to do with not maintaining a developer account, which has a yearly cost to it.
For whatever reason, I never seemed to gel with Krft. It was OK but seemed to take too long to setup.
I’m sure it was me, but I always found myself questioning how non-techies would fair with it since most of the popular surfaces were created by people like us.
You’re better asking the shopkeeper why they don’t keep a backup and also make it near impossible for ourselves to keep app backups.
To reminisque, catch Jakob Haq's contagious excitement when KRFT came on the scene Spring 2017:
Memento mori!
Well that’s a real shame. It was another one of a kind, decent sounds, cool interface, lot’s of fun designing your own specific set ups, great for knocking out drum parts.
Akin to Frum & Skram in a way, existing within their own tidy little audio universes of lost opportunity 😙
Increasingly annoyed by the abandon ware situation that some apps end up in, especially when ‘offload unused apps’ has been engaged & you suddenly discover that the tasty little peripheral soundmaker that you have irregularly engaged with has just upped & gone for good 😳
So if it can't be reinstalled, Apple have to refund everybody legally, right ?
It would probably have to be tested legally, but in all honesty I just wish they would return the ability to backup Apps, or maintain copies of all purchased Apps via the AppStore.
https://imazing.com/
Yes indeed but why should we be obligated to a third party solution, that should Apple see fit pull the plug without notice.
Refunds should definitely be available in this situation but that might depend on location/refund history.
Still got it on the older iPad, hope the developer just forgot to pay the bill and KRFT will reappear soon. It’s a great app