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Which iOS Synth is somewhat similar to Serum?

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  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @BlueGreenSpiral said:
    PPG quartet = Wavegenerator + Wavemapper + Phonem + Infinite

    You can transfer many different file types between those.

    The developer invented Wavetable synthesis in the late 70s and is still pushing the envelope.

    Highly underrated synths, they do take a good bit of time to get your head around but it’s well worth the investment.

    Those are off the App Store now right? I have Wavemapper ages ago but never got the rest and now they’re gone

  • attakkattakk

    It’s the age old answer: Drambo. Create a synth, add 2 wavetable oscillators. Load your own wavetables if you want. Warp them. Modulate the hell out of each - including FM one oscillator with the other. Draw your own modulation curves. 99% of Serum is right there. Ok - you don’t get the same filter choices (or anywhere as many) in Drambo. And you don’t get the really cool Dimension fx, or OTT, but apart from that you have a really close Serum clone.

    If you can find a copy of the Serum stock wavetables then you can reproduce a lot of those tutorials very closely.

    .

  • dendydendy
    edited January 2023

    Funny this thread appeared now ... i hope soon will be released Butter Synth which is hands down most close iOS synth to Serum in terms of possibilities and sound ....

  • andowritesandowrites

    @attakk said:
    It’s the age old answer: Drambo. Create a synth, add 2 wavetable oscillators. Load your own wavetables if you want. Warp them. Modulate the hell out of each - including FM one oscillator with the other. Draw your own modulation curves. 99% of Serum is right there. Ok - you don’t get the same filter choices (or anywhere as many) in Drambo. And you don’t get the really cool Dimension fx, or OTT, but apart from that you have a really close Serum clone.

    If you can find a copy of the Serum stock wavetables then you can reproduce a lot of those tutorials very closely.

    .

    I came here for a different answer, but I'm starting to warm greatly to the idea of learning and mastering Drambo. It feels like time.

  • Michael_R_GrantMichael_R_Grant
    edited January 2023

    jason said:

    @attakk said:
    It’s the age old answer: Drambo. Create a synth, add 2 wavetable oscillators. Load your own wavetables if you want. Warp them. Modulate the hell out of each - including FM one oscillator with the other. Draw your own modulation curves. 99% of Serum is right there. Ok - you don’t get the same filter choices (or anywhere as many) in Drambo. And you don’t get the really cool Dimension fx, or OTT, but apart from that you have a really close Serum clone.

    If you can find a copy of the Serum stock wavetables then you can reproduce a lot of those tutorials very closely.

    .

    Does Drambo the (essential) unison thingy?

    ( I am asking this because I did not open this , straight after the first start when purchasing it. ) That shock still lasts up to today.

    It does! The Unison dial goes up to 7.

  • attakkattakk

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    jason said:

    @attakk said:
    It’s the age old answer: Drambo. Create a synth, add 2 wavetable oscillators. Load your own wavetables if you want. Warp them. Modulate the hell out of each - including FM one oscillator with the other. Draw your own modulation curves. 99% of Serum is right there. Ok - you don’t get the same filter choices (or anywhere as many) in Drambo. And you don’t get the really cool Dimension fx, or OTT, but apart from that you have a really close Serum clone.

    If you can find a copy of the Serum stock wavetables then you can reproduce a lot of those tutorials very closely.

    .

    Does Drambo the (essential) unison thingy?

    ( I am asking this because I did not open this , straight after the first start when purchasing it. ) That shock still lasts up to today.

    It does! The Unison dial goes up to 7.

    Yep - unison is available on the wavetable oscillator, and its number and stereo spread is editable. So each of your oscillators can have their own unison defined independently. There is also a separate unison module (I think). The stereo chorus module is really really nice.

  • attakkattakk
    edited January 2023

    @andowrites said:

    @attakk said:
    It’s the age old answer: Drambo. Create a synth, add 2 wavetable oscillators. Load your own wavetables if you want. Warp them. Modulate the hell out of each - including FM one oscillator with the other. Draw your own modulation curves. 99% of Serum is right there. Ok - you don’t get the same filter choices (or anywhere as many) in Drambo. And you don’t get the really cool Dimension fx, or OTT, but apart from that you have a really close Serum clone.

    If you can find a copy of the Serum stock wavetables then you can reproduce a lot of those tutorials very closely.

    .

    I came here for a different answer, but I'm starting to warm greatly to the idea of learning and mastering Drambo. It feels like time.

    Hey - then go and add a 3rd wavetable oscillator and go beyond Serum!

    Add your own sub osc if wanted, fm one of the wavetable oscs with it - very Serum. Add a noise osc, or use a sampler osc and trigger your own noise sample transient - again very Serum.

    I don’t use Drambo for anything else to be honest - I use it exclusively as an auv3 in NanoStudio2 as my own customiseable Serum clone.

    .

  • frosttrance_7frosttrance_7

    @tja said:

    @BlueGreenSpiral said:
    The PPG quartet will go much further than Serum if you are willing to dig deep. The more PPG you own the more you can do. They have plenty of free sound banks to download if you don’t want to go down the rabbit hole!

    Nave is outstanding as well.

    Those more than cover my wavetable needs.

    I own PPG Infinite, but this is WaveTable only, or?

    Serum seems to be able to use simple standard Sinewave, Sawtooth, and so on, like on regular subtractive synthesis.
    Did I missunderstand Serum?

    If not, can PGP do this as well?

    PPG Infinite is an additive synthesizer that converts wavetables and samples to spectra. It also mixes the additive engine with a noise generator. Unfortunately, it is gone for now, and Virsyn AddStation and Cube are the closest things to it. I see potential in the additive oscillator mode of KORG Module's hybrid synth.

  • frosttrance_7frosttrance_7

    @BlueGreenSpiral said:
    PPG quartet = Wavegenerator + Wavemapper + Phonem + Infinite

    You can transfer many different file types between those.

    The developer invented Wavetable synthesis in the late 70s and is still pushing the envelope.

    Highly underrated synths, they do take a good bit of time to get your head around but it’s well worth the investment.

    It's a shame they are gone now, and I managed to buy all 4 of them. BLEASS Megalit, Samplewiz 2, Virsyn TERA Pro, Addstation, Cube, Addictive Pro Synth, Sugarbytes Factory, and Animoog Z are the most similar.

  • Fear2StopFear2Stop

    @andowrites said:

    @attakk said:
    It’s the age old answer: Drambo. Create a synth, add 2 wavetable oscillators. Load your own wavetables if you want. Warp them. Modulate the hell out of each - including FM one oscillator with the other. Draw your own modulation curves. 99% of Serum is right there. Ok - you don’t get the same filter choices (or anywhere as many) in Drambo. And you don’t get the really cool Dimension fx, or OTT, but apart from that you have a really close Serum clone.

    If you can find a copy of the Serum stock wavetables then you can reproduce a lot of those tutorials very closely.

    .

    I came here for a different answer, but I'm starting to warm greatly to the idea of learning and mastering Drambo. It feels like time.

    Quite the opposite for me…everytime I see Drambo brought up in discussions of stand-alone or AU synths it makes the odds of me ever getting it less and less. It’ll be like if I started constantly saying “use GarageBand for Alchemy Synth” constantly 😆

    Mostly kidding lol

  • GrandbearGrandbear
    edited January 2023

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  • attakkattakk

    jason said:
    Now we have a new Drambo thread. Hurray!

    Sorry not sorry. It’s an appropriate answer for this one. It’s not always the case for some threads, but this one it is - especially if you can find on t’internets the stock Serum wavetables that can be loaded into the Drambo wavetable oscillators (they are around if you search for them).

  • rs2000rs2000

    jason said:

    @attakk said:
    It’s the age old answer: Drambo. Create a synth, add 2 wavetable oscillators. Load your own wavetables if you want. Warp them. Modulate the hell out of each - including FM one oscillator with the other. Draw your own modulation curves. 99% of Serum is right there. Ok - you don’t get the same filter choices (or anywhere as many) in Drambo. And you don’t get the really cool Dimension fx, or OTT, but apart from that you have a really close Serum clone.

    If you can find a copy of the Serum stock wavetables then you can reproduce a lot of those tutorials very closely.

    .

    Does Drambo the (essential) unison thingy?

    ( I am asking this because I did not open this , straight after the first start when purchasing it. ) That shock still lasts up to today.

    If someone built a Serum synth rack for you embedded in a project that's ready to go, would that help?

  • taeotaeo

    @andowrites said:

    @attakk said:
    It’s the age old answer: Drambo. Create a synth, add 2 wavetable oscillators. Load your own wavetables if you want. Warp them. Modulate the hell out of each - including FM one oscillator with the other. Draw your own modulation curves. 99% of Serum is right there. Ok - you don’t get the same filter choices (or anywhere as many) in Drambo. And you don’t get the really cool Dimension fx, or OTT, but apart from that you have a really close Serum clone.

    If you can find a copy of the Serum stock wavetables then you can reproduce a lot of those tutorials very closely.

    .

    I came here for a different answer, but I'm starting to warm greatly to the idea of learning and mastering Drambo. It feels like time.

    Start sooner than later. Lots of info. Big curve. I try to learn module by module, rather than take in a bunch of info in at once. Ben Richards, The Man Who Should Not Speak, SoundForMore, and EchoOpera have the most vids about Drambo on YT.

  • woodmanwoodman

    jason sorry to break in here but I came across this post and just wanted to let you know that WoodSynth 3.0 also supports wavetables : loading from file, converting recorded samples to a wavetable, modulating the table with LFO's, with keytracking, with the Aux ADSR and with the steps of the sequencer. Also the LFO's can be set to a wavetable.
    best rgds,
    Woodman

  • woodmanwoodman

    jason yes it has Unison : each of the 4 layers of WoodSynth has up to 16 voices and each layer can be set independently to Unison. The Analog setting determines the "distance" of the voices.
    Woodman

  • FingolfinzzFingolfinzz

    Woodsynth is a beast, it’s one of my favorite for sound design

  • woodmanwoodman

    @Fingolfinzz : nice to hear ! :-)
    Woodman

  • andowritesandowrites

    I love Woodsynth. I didn't realise it was available as a plugin as well. I'm happy to hear that.

  • woodmanwoodman

    yes AUv3 on iOS, AU, VST, VST3 and AAX on MacOS
    btw just discovered a bug in unison (while we were talking about it), fixing it right now.
    Woodman

  • McDMcD

    For anyone (like me) who doesn't immediately grasp the consequence of "unison" and what it can do to a simple waveform. I found a serum tutorial page with 4 audio examples that show:

    1. the naked sample
    2. 16 instances of unison (with option to "pan" instances for stereo spread?)
    3. pitch deviations for the 16 "layers" to add extra higher order harmonics to the mix and low order phase effects
    4. added reverb and compression

    https://soundbridge.io/make-bigger-synths-using-unison/

    Now, I want to know what's a good AUv3 FX app (outside of drama) that can add 16 layers and does it add pitch variations. I imagine these 2 steps are the essential functions of a chorus app.

  • woodmanwoodman

    @McD : WoodSynth is an AUv3 Fx or instrument which can load (or record) samples and play the samples in each of the 16 voices with a small pitch delta when you switch on Unison. Is it that you are looking for ?
    Woodman

  • McDMcD

    @woodman said:
    @McD : WoodSynth is an AUv3 Fx or instrument which can load (or record) samples and play the samples in each of the 16 voices with a small pitch delta when you switch on Unison. Is it that you are looking for ?
    Woodman

    I like the results without the requirement to create the presets… I’ll give Woodsynth a try based upon the endorsements here. I find building in Drambo to be too laborious when there are synths that just have great presets.

  • drewinnitdrewinnit
    edited February 2023

    @attakk said:
    Modulate the hell out of each - including FM one oscillator with the other.

    Are you doing this by connecting the pitch input of one WT osc to the pitch output of another?

    Cheers

  • McDMcD

    @woodman said:
    @McD : WoodSynth is an AUv3 Fx or instrument which can load (or record) samples and play the samples in each of the 16 voices with a small pitch delta when you switch on Unison. Is it that you are looking for ?
    Woodman

    Oh my… I need a magnifying lens to see the font in the advanced page.
    I am glad to see that the app accepts Program Changes so I can quickly review presets at least to 128. I need to look into Bank Change and see if I can go further. I wish the GUI had a forward/back feature rather than menu diving.

    But the sounds are compelling and I can see how a true sound designer would like the design.

    I need to see if there are user presets to install… are there any?

  • woodmanwoodman

    @McD : did you choose Copy Factory Presets from the preset menu ?

  • woodmanwoodman

    @McD : there is also a Next and Prev button for the presets which you can easily connect to a CC with the ML (Midi Learn) button
    btw which iPad do you use ?
    Woodman

  • McDMcD

    @woodman said:
    @McD : did you choose Copy Factory Presets from the preset menu ?

    Yes. I’m just finding it labor intense to navigate 2 menus to touch the next option but Program Change advances up to 128 items. I need to see how to go past that point. Does the Bank Change MSB LSB stuff work? I tried that with iSymphonic in the past.

  • woodmanwoodman

    @McD : I must admit it is ages ago that I used the Program Change :-) I'll check it tomorrow.
    But the Next and Prev buttons are only 1 touch so should save you nav menu work ...
    Woodman

  • McDMcD
    edited February 2023

    @woodman said:
    @McD : I must admit it is ages ago that I used the Program Change :-) I'll check it tomorrow.
    But the Next and Prev buttons are only 1 touch so should save you nav menu work ...
    Woodman

    Perfect… I was looking for one touch to run through the presets. But I totally missed them.
    Damn. Sorry for the confusion.

    Well… there are 111 presets for no need for a bank change.

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