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Apple: may we interest you in an easily losable $150 dongle ?
Headphone Jacks are for serious producers. So I can see why you wouldn't be interested in them.
Lol Burn!
. I was poking fun at how Mr. Apple said removing the headphone jack was them being ‘brave’.
Looks great for GFX artists.
Backside illumination: Quand je regarde mon derrière...
Well a serious producer would probably use an audio interface with a good D/A but a very mobile and travelling serious producer surely wouldn’t mind a headphone jack too. Little nitpicking here 🙃
This should help loading more AUs at a time, right? I assume Apple will give us a 13X in October then.
https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/ipad/ipad-pro-10-5-ipad-pro-12-9
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Refurbished 2nd generation iPad Pros have dropped in price. (They have headphone jacks
64gb iPad Pro 10.5 down to $379.
64gb iPad Pro 12.9 2nd generation down to $499.
I'm still not understanding the advantage to using a trackpad on iPadOS. Isn't the iPad's touchscreen already a giant trackpad? I saw that iPadOS will soon get a new cursor, so those new trackpads better be really really good, but will they be better than an iPad's touchscreen? Or is this all just the beginning of the iOS and MacOS merger?
I use my iPad in two forms - one as a normal touch screen device on my lap and the other connected to a monitor with wireless keyboard and mouse.
I think it is a steady merging to be honest. The new trackpad keyboard with its additional USB C port makes the iPad very much like a laptop. I like the direction they are going to be honest. The more they take out some of the limits of the OS, the more of a laptop / desktop replacement it can become for many users
I was planning on buying one of these a week ago, now I'm wondering if I can afford Drambo.
@Fruitbat1919 Thanks, that makes sense. So the wireless bluetooth keyboards, mice, and trackpad that Apple sells for the Macs should work on recent iPads? and be more precise with the new cursor in the upcoming iPadOS update?
$300/350 for the new iPad Pro keyboards with the trackpads might a better value if they were wireless, but I think they use the Smart connector, so once detached they stop working. Interested to see if their additional USB-C can pass data, but looks like they're for pass-through charging only.
Personally I use a Logitech keyboard and mouse as they are decent enough and not stupid money.
Yep looks like its just for pass through charging, but at least that helps in some situations. It is a lot of money and I’ve not heard good things about Apples own keyboards for iPads, so it better be more longer lasting for that money, as someone will make a decent alternative.
I’m buying an iPad Pro at the end of this year, as my Air2 is on its last legs now - also struggles with the latest apps. I’m hoping eventually the OS makes better use of widescreen monitors, but the move towards 6gb ram on all pro models (if true) is a positive step forward imo.
Personally I think its time they moved some of the spec of the Pro models like the speakers down and USB C down to the Air models and give the Pro models two USB C as standard.
Lidar – I don’t know what that is.
I've stuck with Logitech keyboards and mice over the years, excellent value, plus their prices are cut in half as often as iOS apps.
When I was into PC gaming, the poor quality and high prices of the boutique brands always sent me back to Logitech. Still have an ancient G9 that's beat up, but still works perfectly.
Speaking of iPads, I'm really liking that new price drop on the 2nd Gen 12.9. 4gb ram, headphone jack, big screen.
Yep, definitely some great second hand deals out there. I suppose money will dictate my eventual decision, but I’ve got five years out of my Air2, so if I could get another five out of new Pro model, that would be reasonable value. Ive never had any computer device last longer than my Air2 without some issue or other. The only upside of the old gear, was the ability to take them down to a local shop for repair. Apple products are pretty much keep until they fail, then use them as door stops
The only thing that worries me about a second hand iPad is the risk that the battery may be overly worn, as the replacements are not cheap or easy to do without full backup.
Same
@Fruitbat1919 Do you have the official Apple refurbished store in your neck of the woods?
My last 3 came from there. All had new batteries and looked brand new. Same warranty as new. No issues. Not even 1 dead pixel (I’ve seen new iPads with dead pixels).
It’s not the fly-by-night refurb companies that have problems reattaching cases and glass. Or replace the dead battery with one with only 10% life. Been down that road, lots of scammers in that business.
I have to say I disagree. The more of a convergence that happens the more it will encourage developers to make cross platform apps that don't really play to the strengths of either platform. I kind of feel like a lot of that has already happened as we see more ports of desktop AUs (or, even when not ports, made following the same paradigm of desktop AUs).
I got into iOS when developers were really thinking about how to take advantage of this massive touchscreen and created things like Samplr, Borderlands, Thumbjam, Jasuto - unique touchscreen apps that you play. More and more it feels like the touchscreen interface is an afterthought, rather than a primary consideration. A way to press tiny buttons for settings or turn virtual knobs (why on earth do knobs exist on a touchscreen? Apps should have faders that you can "paint" across to "sketch" your settings).
If keyboards, trackpads and mice become ubiquitous it drive that even farther and we will just be left with a Surface like device: touch-capable, but without a compelling reason to touch, and ultimately just functioning like a small, thermally-restricted laptop.
The Apple refurb store is a great way to buy. As stated they put in a new battery and new case, so it looks and acts like a brand new device (and better than new old-stock as it hasn't been sitting on a shelf for a few years).
In fact Apple considers these as new so you can buy AppleCare and get that full 2 - 3 year protection.
That could indeed become problematic. Only way around that is we let people know what we want as best we can and hopefully the power of the wallet will help. There will always be winners and losers as tech changes and none of us will get all we want, but that’s just life.
Yep looks a decent idea, except the prices in the UK still make me lean towards the latest model
Might not even be an option anyway depending how this virus thing pans out....might be having to make do!
Its “liar” with a D in it.
... but maybe also something else, not sure it will help the iOS music scene.
My 128gb 2018 ipad was $349! Runs just fine next to my 2012 mbp running logic and a uad apollo x8. My iphone 6s with headphone jack is still running fine too.
No desire for a new ios device, the occasional synth into logic via idam works well. I especially love using that with my mellotron apps.
Although the price of the keyboard makes me raise an eyebrow, I’m liking its concept more than the Microsoft twin screen Windows 10X machines of late. I can see use of twin screen machines, but the basic concept of a machine that can be tablet / laptop / desktop eventually is the winner for myself.
I do understand the problem of doing everything half as good as machines that serve one purpose only, but its really only down to the software, implementation and will. With will be the sticking point, as Apple will take everything at a crawl so as not to damage monetary streams or too soon put all its eggs in one basket - as usual, the buyer will be expected to pony up the cost, so that the investors do not lose out
I’ve looked at the refurb prices occasionally, but the discount never seems that tempting, plus they’re usually older models.
My Air 2 has started getting a bit glitchy, not as smooth as it was a few months back. The constant update nags don’t help.
I feel that I’ve pushed the longevity of my Air 2 music making as long as I can really. It’s had a damn good run for its money though and I’ve got it hooked up to a monitor now to use as a cheap computer.
That was fun!