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Attack Softener audio unit plugin has released on the App Store

Blue_MangooBlue_Mangoo
edited April 2020 in General App Discussion

Here's my demo video:

App Store Link:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/attack-softener/id1504605178?ls=1

I will leave the TestFlight link up for a few more days so you can get a free trial version of the app:
https://testflight.apple.com/join/gtGk91Pl

Sound Test Room demo:

Here are some videos by Audiobus forum members who were kind enough to help me out with demonstrating the plugin:














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Comments

  • david_2017david_2017
    edited April 2020

    First ;)

    AWESOME! Congratulations! And a great honor to see my little Video up there together with all the others!!!

    Stay safe, take care!

  • BITCRUSHERBITCRUSHER

    Not available in the Canadian app store...at least in the London Ontario region...pity. :(

  • Blue_MangooBlue_Mangoo

    @baudious said:
    Not available in the Canadian app store...at least in the London Ontario region...pity. :(

    Please wait a few hours. New apps don’t hit all the stores together at the same time.

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    Cool little tool. Congrats on the release!

  • Blue_MangooBlue_Mangoo

    @gusgranite said:
    Cool little tool. Congrats on the release!

    Thanks ;)

  • HalftoneHalftone

    Congrats. It’s a cool tool!

  • thesoundtestroomthesoundtestroom

    Hi, here is my demo for Attack Softener, this is with guitar and some other effects, very lush

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Thanks @Blue_Mangoo it was my pleasure to make that short video. This little gem is a very good addition to anyone’s arsenal. 👍

  • torrescampalanstorrescampalans

    it works really nice on guitar. Thank you very much.

  • Blue_MangooBlue_Mangoo
    edited April 2020

    Here's a new video from @espiegel123

  • Blue_MangooBlue_Mangoo

    @thesoundtestroom said:
    Hi, here is my demo for Attack Softener, this is with guitar and some other effects, very lush

    Thanks Doug!

  • BITCRUSHERBITCRUSHER

    @Blue_Mangoo said:

    @baudious said:
    Not available in the Canadian app store...at least in the London Ontario region...pity. :(

    Please wait a few hours. New apps don’t hit all the stores together at the same time.

    @Blue_Mangoo said:

    @baudious said:
    Not available in the Canadian app store...at least in the London Ontario region...pity. :(

    Please wait a few hours. New apps don’t hit all the stores together at the same time.

  • BITCRUSHERBITCRUSHER

    Ahh...there it is...nice one Bluegoo...😎

  • qryssqryss
    edited April 2020

    @Blue_Mangoo I am sure the answer is zero but what is the chance you might release this for desktop?

    I’m sure most guitarists use a desktop for their virtual stuff so the market there for this would have to be huge in comparison to iOS but I appreciate it’s a whole other game writing AUs or VSTs for that environment.

    It’s just such a fantastic-sounding plugin.

  • Blue_MangooBlue_Mangoo

    @qryss said:
    @Blue_Mangoo I am sure the answer is zero but what is the chance you might release this for desktop?

    I’m sure most guitarists use a desktop for their virtual stuff so the market there for this would have to be huge in comparison to iOS but I appreciate it’s a whole other game writing AUs or VSTs for that environment.

    It’s just such a fantastic-sounding plugin.

    @qryss If there is enough interest then we will certainly release it for desktop. It would be very easy to convert it to Mac OS. Windows would take more effort. Which OS are you using for desktop?

  • qryssqryss

    @Blue_Mangoo I’m a Mac user.

    I use a rack-mounted Mac mini and a custom-made, Teensy-powered floor unit to control Gig Performer. Inside that is a whole host of plugins that basically emulate what I would do with hardware units. S-Gear doesn’t have any front-of-amp pedals (yet) so I’ve spent a long time (too long, probably) finding just the ones I want - as well as delays and reverbs and so on after the amp (although S-Gear does include stunning units for this already - I’m just greedy).

    I’ve spent quite a while in the ‘guitar pedal plugin’ space and it’s vibrant. Lots of people making plugins and lots of people using them. Obviously there’s a ton of application for non-guitar plugins, too, and guitar plugins get used for synths.

    Prices are certainly higher away from iOS (but you’ll know that already) but still way cheaper than the hardware equivalent would be.

    I’d certainly be very happy to beta test anything if that helped. :)

  • Blue_MangooBlue_Mangoo

    @qryss said:
    @Blue_Mangoo I’m a Mac user.

    I use a rack-mounted Mac mini and a custom-made, Teensy-powered floor unit to control Gig Performer. Inside that is a whole host of plugins that basically emulate what I would do with hardware units. S-Gear doesn’t have any front-of-amp pedals (yet) so I’ve spent a long time (too long, probably) finding just the ones I want - as well as delays and reverbs and so on after the amp (although S-Gear does include stunning units for this already - I’m just greedy).

    I’ve spent quite a while in the ‘guitar pedal plugin’ space and it’s vibrant. Lots of people making plugins and lots of people using them. Obviously there’s a ton of application for non-guitar plugins, too, and guitar plugins get used for synths.

    Prices are certainly higher away from iOS (but you’ll know that already) but still way cheaper than the hardware equivalent would be.

    I’d certainly be very happy to beta test anything if that helped. :)

    Thanks. That's great. I really believe the guitar rig of the future should be built with audio units (or VSTs). We can all see that software amp modeling is going to be huge. But one of its big weaknesses is the idea that you should buy one product and get all your amps and hundreds of effects inside of it. That doesn't work. Every time I try a new guitar effects software I find they do some things right and other things wrong. The amps are good but the reverbs aren't. Or the reverb is good but there's no good chorus. The way forward is for a few companies to develop pedalboard host apps that facilitate linking audio units together and handle preset saving and switching. Then the rest of us make individual effects and customers buy what they want and need and don't have to waste their money on big packages where individual effects are hit-or-miss.

    Ok... so after hearing you on this, I think this is what I'm gonna do: I'll ask one of our employees to find out how much effort it would be to release Attack Softener as an audio unit plugin on the Mac App Store. I suspect that aside from a few small changes, it will port straight over. We'll sell it on the Mac App Store and see how it goes. If there's interest for it then we will continue to port to Mac OS in the future and if there is a lot of interest we will also port to Windows.

  • qryssqryss

    That is amazing to hear - and I personally would be delighted obviously.

    The world you describe is what I already do: I agree that the bundle-of-things/‘complete’ solution is bound to mean you don’t get what you want - just what they give you. Gig Performer is designed by a keyboard player but loads of guitarists use it and it plays the role of flexible host extremely well. It’s got its own advanced scripting language for those extra special configurations and connections as well.

    I’ve always wondered why this is but all the plugins I know of for desktop are outside the App Store - which means you need to deal with copy protection stuff. A small handful of people make a meal of this but most get it just about right. iLok is hated by some still but is actually really good these days and you don’t need a dongle anymore.

    Again, I’m more than happy to share everything I know if it helps.

  • CluelessClueless

    +1 for a mac version. I would like it to have on iOS and mac.

  • Blue_MangooBlue_Mangoo
    edited April 2020

    @qryss said:
    That is amazing to hear - and I personally would be delighted obviously.

    The world you describe is what I already do: I agree that the bundle-of-things/‘complete’ solution is bound to mean you don’t get what you want - just what they give you. Gig Performer is designed by a keyboard player but loads of guitarists use it and it plays the role of flexible host extremely well. It’s got its own advanced scripting language for those extra special configurations and connections as well.

    I’ve always wondered why this is but all the plugins I know of for desktop are outside the App Store - which means you need to deal with copy protection stuff. A small handful of people make a meal of this but most get it just about right. iLok is hated by some still but is actually really good these days and you don’t need a dongle anymore.

    Again, I’m more than happy to share everything I know if it helps.

    The copy protection issue is the main reason why we haven’t done plugin development for desktop OS. I am inclined to just skip it and see what happens. It seems most plugins get cracked anyway. I’m curious to see how important it is to use copy protection. I hope we can just release on the mac app store and leave it at that.

  • CluelessClueless

    @Blue_Mangoo said:

    @qryss said:
    That is amazing to hear - and I personally would be delighted obviously.

    The world you describe is what I already do: I agree that the bundle-of-things/‘complete’ solution is bound to mean you don’t get what you want - just what they give you. Gig Performer is designed by a keyboard player but loads of guitarists use it and it plays the role of flexible host extremely well. It’s got its own advanced scripting language for those extra special configurations and connections as well.

    I’ve always wondered why this is but all the plugins I know of for desktop are outside the App Store - which means you need to deal with copy protection stuff. A small handful of people make a meal of this but most get it just about right. iLok is hated by some still but is actually really good these days and you don’t need a dongle anymore.

    Again, I’m more than happy to share everything I know if it helps.

    The copy protection issue is the main reason why we haven’t done plugin development for desktop OS. I am inclined to just skip it and see what happens. It seems most plugins get cracked anyway. I’m curious to see how important it is to use copy protection. I hope we can just release on the mac app store and leave it at that.

    I hear that often but also that some developers have a "secure" and customer friendly protection like U-he. I think they are open to help out also in such cases maybe. I wonder if iOS 100% secure here?
    But then even 1 dollar tools get cracked because people are like this.
    Then some developers even accept that because anyone who use a cracked version would not buy it anyway.
    Others even says it is a way to spread a tool and people will start to buy it when updated OS kills the cracked version or something like this.
    I never would use it since i respect developers who puts their blood and money into this.
    Selling it trough the mac app store would make it at least secure as on iOS, or?
    However, it seems still a lot developers doing fine on both platforms and maybe asking developers which already support crossplatforms can say if its worth the trouble.
    I mean people will always try to steal things. If iOS music will get bigger (and i´m sure it will) piracy will grow as well there. Its juts the nature of the beast.

  • Blue_MangooBlue_Mangoo

    @Clueless said:

    @Blue_Mangoo said:

    @qryss said:
    That is amazing to hear - and I personally would be delighted obviously.

    The world you describe is what I already do: I agree that the bundle-of-things/‘complete’ solution is bound to mean you don’t get what you want - just what they give you. Gig Performer is designed by a keyboard player but loads of guitarists use it and it plays the role of flexible host extremely well. It’s got its own advanced scripting language for those extra special configurations and connections as well.

    I’ve always wondered why this is but all the plugins I know of for desktop are outside the App Store - which means you need to deal with copy protection stuff. A small handful of people make a meal of this but most get it just about right. iLok is hated by some still but is actually really good these days and you don’t need a dongle anymore.

    Again, I’m more than happy to share everything I know if it helps.

    The copy protection issue is the main reason why we haven’t done plugin development for desktop OS. I am inclined to just skip it and see what happens. It seems most plugins get cracked anyway. I’m curious to see how important it is to use copy protection. I hope we can just release on the mac app store and leave it at that.

    I hear that often but also that some developers have a "secure" and customer friendly protection like U-he. I think they are open to help out also in such cases maybe. I wonder if iOS 100% secure here?
    But then even 1 dollar tools get cracked because people are like this.
    Then some developers even accept that because anyone who use a cracked version would not buy it anyway.
    Others even says it is a way to spread a tool and people will start to buy it when updated OS kills the cracked version or something like this.
    I never would use it since i respect developers who puts their blood and money into this.
    Selling it trough the mac app store would make it at least secure as on iOS, or?
    However, it seems still a lot developers doing fine on both platforms and maybe asking developers which already support crossplatforms can say if its worth the trouble.
    I mean people will always try to steal things. If iOS music will get bigger (and i´m sure it will) piracy will grow as well there. Its juts the nature of the beast.

    Mac Apps can be quite easy to copy. I’m not sure if it’s still that way. I think I’d rather have a few sales from honest folk than to spend a lot of time worrying about to stop the rest of people from pirating.

  • CluelessClueless
    edited April 2020

    @Blue_Mangoo said:

    @Clueless said:

    @Blue_Mangoo said:

    @qryss said:
    That is amazing to hear - and I personally would be delighted obviously.

    The world you describe is what I already do: I agree that the bundle-of-things/‘complete’ solution is bound to mean you don’t get what you want - just what they give you. Gig Performer is designed by a keyboard player but loads of guitarists use it and it plays the role of flexible host extremely well. It’s got its own advanced scripting language for those extra special configurations and connections as well.

    I’ve always wondered why this is but all the plugins I know of for desktop are outside the App Store - which means you need to deal with copy protection stuff. A small handful of people make a meal of this but most get it just about right. iLok is hated by some still but is actually really good these days and you don’t need a dongle anymore.

    Again, I’m more than happy to share everything I know if it helps.

    The copy protection issue is the main reason why we haven’t done plugin development for desktop OS. I am inclined to just skip it and see what happens. It seems most plugins get cracked anyway. I’m curious to see how important it is to use copy protection. I hope we can just release on the mac app store and leave it at that.

    I hear that often but also that some developers have a "secure" and customer friendly protection like U-he. I think they are open to help out also in such cases maybe. I wonder if iOS 100% secure here?
    But then even 1 dollar tools get cracked because people are like this.
    Then some developers even accept that because anyone who use a cracked version would not buy it anyway.
    Others even says it is a way to spread a tool and people will start to buy it when updated OS kills the cracked version or something like this.
    I never would use it since i respect developers who puts their blood and money into this.
    Selling it trough the mac app store would make it at least secure as on iOS, or?
    However, it seems still a lot developers doing fine on both platforms and maybe asking developers which already support crossplatforms can say if its worth the trouble.
    I mean people will always try to steal things. If iOS music will get bigger (and i´m sure it will) piracy will grow as well there. Its juts the nature of the beast.

    Mac Apps can be quite easy to copy. I’m not sure if it’s still that way. I think I’d rather have a few sales from honest folk than to spend a lot of time worrying about to stop the rest of people from pirating.

    O.k. i understand but i thought that changed by now? Also isn´t that the same with iOS apps and jailbreaked idevices (not sure if that even is a thing today).
    I wonder what will happen once Apple comes out with the ARM macbooks and /or if they want iPadOS to open more to replace macOS.
    Maybe good that iOS music scene is still a niche since it holds piracy small.
    But anyway wrong theme in a forum maybe. All i can say is i would really love to buy your tools for my mac.
    The Attack softener would be a nice start. All the best to you and your apps are amazing. Thank you for that.

  • Blue_MangooBlue_Mangoo

    @Clueless said:

    @Blue_Mangoo said:

    @Clueless said:

    @Blue_Mangoo said:

    @qryss said:
    That is amazing to hear - and I personally would be delighted obviously.

    The world you describe is what I already do: I agree that the bundle-of-things/‘complete’ solution is bound to mean you don’t get what you want - just what they give you. Gig Performer is designed by a keyboard player but loads of guitarists use it and it plays the role of flexible host extremely well. It’s got its own advanced scripting language for those extra special configurations and connections as well.

    I’ve always wondered why this is but all the plugins I know of for desktop are outside the App Store - which means you need to deal with copy protection stuff. A small handful of people make a meal of this but most get it just about right. iLok is hated by some still but is actually really good these days and you don’t need a dongle anymore.

    Again, I’m more than happy to share everything I know if it helps.

    The copy protection issue is the main reason why we haven’t done plugin development for desktop OS. I am inclined to just skip it and see what happens. It seems most plugins get cracked anyway. I’m curious to see how important it is to use copy protection. I hope we can just release on the mac app store and leave it at that.

    I hear that often but also that some developers have a "secure" and customer friendly protection like U-he. I think they are open to help out also in such cases maybe. I wonder if iOS 100% secure here?
    But then even 1 dollar tools get cracked because people are like this.
    Then some developers even accept that because anyone who use a cracked version would not buy it anyway.
    Others even says it is a way to spread a tool and people will start to buy it when updated OS kills the cracked version or something like this.
    I never would use it since i respect developers who puts their blood and money into this.
    Selling it trough the mac app store would make it at least secure as on iOS, or?
    However, it seems still a lot developers doing fine on both platforms and maybe asking developers which already support crossplatforms can say if its worth the trouble.
    I mean people will always try to steal things. If iOS music will get bigger (and i´m sure it will) piracy will grow as well there. Its juts the nature of the beast.

    Mac Apps can be quite easy to copy. I’m not sure if it’s still that way. I think I’d rather have a few sales from honest folk than to spend a lot of time worrying about to stop the rest of people from pirating.

    O.k. i understand but i thought that changed by now? Also isn´t that the same with iOS apps and jailbreaked idevices (not sure if that even is a thing today).
    I wonder what will happen once Apple comes out with the ARM macbooks and /or if they want iPadOS to open more to replace macOS.
    Maybe good that iOS music scene is still a niche since it holds piracy small.
    But anyway wrong theme in a forum maybe. All i can say is i would really love to buy your tools for my mac.
    The Attack softener would be a nice start. All the best to you and your apps are amazing. Thank you for that.

    I don't know the answer to that. It would be wonderful if the copy protection already built-in to the App Store is sufficient. We will try it and find out. :)

  • Blue_MangooBlue_Mangoo
    edited April 2020

    I am cross-posting @flo26 demo video on this thread to collect them all in one place:

    And this one from @zilld2017:

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    Great tones, everyone! I already have the auto swell unit in Tonestack. Does this app do anything different?

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    Are the controls exposed to external midi CCs?

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    Are the controls exposed to external midi CCs?

    Yes via host I think. I was modulating the depth via LFO in AUM.

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @gusgranite said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    Are the controls exposed to external midi CCs?

    Yes via host I think. I was modulating the depth via LFO in AUM.

    Thanks, that might make it useful for me in spite of already having ToneStack.

    I keep wondering if FAC Envolver could also do this—I don’t fully understand that app....

  • Blue_MangooBlue_Mangoo
    edited April 2020

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    Are the controls exposed to external midi CCs?

    Yes via host I think. I was modulating the depth via LFO in AUM.

    Thanks, that might make it useful for me in spite of already having ToneStack.

    I keep wondering if FAC Envolver could also do this—I don’t fully understand that app....

    I did not find any other effect in hardware or software that is as fast and accurate as this one is. For a swell effect, other apps might be able to stand in for this one but for short attack times (~20 ms) on fast solo playing there is nothing like it. Most swell effects dont handle fast playing and if they do they miss some of the attacks unless you stop playing between each note to give them time to recover.

    But don’t take my word for it. The testflight link is still live. Download the plugin for free and try it for yourself. (And if you don’t mind, please post back here to tell us what you found.)

    https://testflight.apple.com/join/gtGk91Pl

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