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iPadOS 13.4 mouse support

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  • animalelderanimalelder
    edited April 2020

    With a Logitech K400, I was able to scroll with two fingers. With my Magic Mouse 1, I could not scroll.

    Did you set the middle click function with AssistiveTouch? That is where you would do that.

  • buskerbusker

    @tja said:
    In the iOS setting, below "Bluetooth", I see some strange text:

    Using "MX Anywhere 2" may affect Wi-Fi and Bluetooth connectivity.

    I never noticed this before.

    Do others see something similar?

    I’m using the exact same mouse, and have the same message. Haven’t noticed any Wi-Fi issues though.

    You can drag the scrollbar with the left mouse button, but you need to make it appear first by doing a fast mouse-wheel scroll.

  • ecouecou

    @tja said:
    I tried the new mouse support in iPadOS 13.4 for the first time...

    And at first, I did not like it at all.

    It got a bit better, after additionally enabling "Accessibility".

    But I still have some problems:

    It seems, I cannot scroll webpages up and down with the mouse (left button pressed).
    This is only possible with the mouse wheel, so no touch support for this?!?

    It had the same problem. To scroll a web page you have to scroll up. The opposite of windows.

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  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @tja for what it's worth, I have tried a bog standard Trust Bluetooth mouse from Tesco's, and scrolling with the mouse wheel is also completely unusable. I have no idea who signs off such major usability issues at Apple. Rant over!

  • Sequencer1Sequencer1

    This has some useful info about the WiFi/Bluetooth warning (Wireless interference): https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211009

    Magic Mouse 1 and Magic Trackpad 1 don't support scrolling, need a V2 for scrolling. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210394#134

    In iPadOS Settings, there are options under both General and Accessibility.

  • Jmousseau72Jmousseau72

    Mouse support changed quite a bit with 13.4. I had the accessibility settings turned on for awhile then realized it wasn’t supposed to used that way. I had to dump my surface arc mouse an went to Magic Mouse and after re-learning some things I’m okay right now. Seems a little half baked but definitely better after getting used to it. I don’t like the fact that third party mice support seems to have been broken. Hopefully iOS 14 remedies this.

    One thing that really tripped me up. In AUM I used to be able to right-click and access menu options, especially with individual devices. It’s touchy with Magic Mouse. You need to really click far up right corner to get it to work. Hopefully this all gets ironed out. I really hope anyway.

  • tehskwrltehskwrl

    @Jmousseau72 said:
    Mouse support changed quite a bit with 13.4. I had the accessibility settings turned on for awhile then realized it wasn’t supposed to used that way. I had to dump my surface arc mouse an went to Magic Mouse and after re-learning some things I’m okay right now. Seems a little half baked but definitely better after getting used to it. I don’t like the fact that third party mice support seems to have been broken. Hopefully iOS 14 remedies this.

    One thing that really tripped me up. In AUM I used to be able to right-click and access menu options, especially with individual devices. It’s touchy with Magic Mouse. You need to really click far up right corner to get it to work. Hopefully this all gets ironed out. I really hope anyway.

    I was just testing this with a Logitech mouse and found that a left click then a right click was reliable each time. I was left/right clicking on the hamburger to the right of a synth in the main slot to access.

  • onerezonerez

    So are talking about Magic Mouse 2? I have seen some good reviews of that with iOS. Anyone here using it or did I miss that?

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  • mistercharliemistercharlie

    @Max23 said:
    BTW. The new keyboard and stand for iPad
    looks exactly like the thing they said they will never do years ago. Lol.

    Where did they say that? What thing?

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  • Sequencer1Sequencer1

    @tja said:

    @Sequencer1 said:
    This has some useful info about the WiFi/Bluetooth warning (Wireless interference): https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211009

    Magic Mouse 1 and Magic Trackpad 1 don't support scrolling, need a V2 for scrolling. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210394#134

    In iPadOS Settings, there are options under both General and Accessibility.

    What options do you mean exactly, please?

    Once the device is connected, new categories ‘appear’ in Settings. But I don't remember seeing an inverted scrolling option.

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  • wimwim

    @tja said:

    @Max23 said:

    @tja said:

    @tehskwrl said:

    @Jmousseau72 said:
    Mouse support changed quite a bit with 13.4. I had the accessibility settings turned on for awhile then realized it wasn’t supposed to used that way. I had to dump my surface arc mouse an went to Magic Mouse and after re-learning some things I’m okay right now. Seems a little half baked but definitely better after getting used to it. I don’t like the fact that third party mice support seems to have been broken. Hopefully iOS 14 remedies this.

    One thing that really tripped me up. In AUM I used to be able to right-click and access menu options, especially with individual devices. It’s touchy with Magic Mouse. You need to really click far up right corner to get it to work. Hopefully this all gets ironed out. I really hope anyway.

    I was just testing this with a Logitech mouse and found that a left click then a right click was reliable each time. I was left/right clicking on the hamburger to the right of a synth in the main slot to access.

    That's the most stupid thing I ever heard.
    Why can't Apple simply offer an interface that people know and love and that works reliable and without any change or thought?

    I will try again.

    If you are on Mac you are used to it :)

    I temporarily had a MacBook Air for some time, I cannot remember that the scrolling was different than on Windows.

    It's upside-down from Windows. It's been about a week, but I'm finally getting used to it. In a weird way, it makes sense, once you get over the change.

    Gonna suck when I fire up my Windows PC again tho. I wonder if I'll end up changing the scroll direction on my Logitech mouse. :D

  • TurntablistTurntablist
    edited April 2020

    @Max23 said:
    If you are on Mac you are used to it :)

    Everybody i know who uses a Mac disables that immediately.
    Android - Normal
    Chrome - Normal
    Linux - Normal
    Windows - Normal
    Mac - Inverted (Optionally)
    iOS - Inverted (Fixed)
    Hell i even have a Stanton SCS4DJ that you can plug a mouse in to - Normal hahaha.

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  • wimwim
    edited April 2020

    @tja said:
    Is it really true that a Mac scrolls like the iPad, so different to Windows? :o
    EDIT: It seems that I changed that on the Mac.

    Yep, it's configurable. I've kept it "natural" (how "Apple" is that?? :D ) - just to challenge myself to adapt to a different paradigm.

    When I worked for a few years in Switzerland, there were four different language keyboards in use by various people in the office. I had to teach myself to instantly adapt to whomever I was assisting at the time. It was good training. ;)

    Same as adapting to a guitar vs. a ukelele vs. a violin vs. different guitar tunings. Its a worthy skill to nurture.

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