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Do you know what would take Fugue Machine to the next level? No, seriously - do you?

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  • @syrupcore said:

    @u0421793 said:
    Make one of the channels transpose the others.

    To elaborate the possible complexities of this:

    • Make one or a mixture of channels transpose others (implies complexity in what is meant by ‘mixing’)
    • Make the result of above also transpose the contributing source channels, not just remaining ones.
    • Make external midi contribute to transposition too.

    FWIW, Quantum can do this.

    Thanks. That’s good to know. I don’t have that, but I have the predecessor (which on its own could be useful as a transposition input to Fugue Machine, perhaps).

  • @syrupcore said:

    @u0421793 said:
    Make one of the channels transpose the others.

    To elaborate the possible complexities of this:

    • Make one or a mixture of channels transpose others (implies complexity in what is meant by ‘mixing’)
    • Make the result of above also transpose the contributing source channels, not just remaining ones.
    • Make external midi contribute to transposition too.

    FWIW, Quantum can do this.

    Quantum can do a whole heck of a lot!

  • @marcuspresident said:
    @Alexandernaut the main wow factor in your respond is that 4 years project of yours. Is it by any mean iOS related?!

    PS. I love Fugue Machine.

    Yeah, it's a new iOS app. And awesome, glad you're enjoying FM :]

    @aplourde said:
    @Alexandernaut, you sure you want suggestions?!

    Lol, yes!

    Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone. I'll reference this post while I work on the update. I'm planning to put in about a week of work into it, and will try to squeeze in as much as possible. I can't make any promises (if you can't already tell), as some things are surprisingly complex, if not impossible! I've been fooled many times 🙈. However, other things are surprisingly simple, so please share any more thoughts if you'd like.

  • @Alexandernaut said:

    Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone. I'll reference this post while I work on the update. I'm planning to put in about a week of work into it, and will try to squeeze in as much as possible. I can't make any promises (if you can't already tell), as some things are surprisingly complex, if not impossible! I've been fooled many times 🙈. However, other things are surprisingly simple, so please share any more thoughts if you'd like.

    Small one, maybe: Make the menu taller. :)

    Large one: For each project to contain 8 different states (like some of the Rozeta apps) so that you can quickly go back and forth between different states of the same project. Some tracks muted, different track speeds, play directions, transpositions, loop positions...

  • Transpose or key changes would be ace, as would some random/probability, either per note or per play head or combo of the two... I’ve only just found out how to pattern switch in hosts so still got a lot to play with anyway :) tx @Alexandernaut

  • @syrupcore , @Alexandernaut : if I were to add a second wish to transpose it would be a big +1 to the idea of borrowing @brambos ’ approach to sequencing as showcased particularly in Bassline, with Mutate, rotate patterns left right up and down in pattern, copy/paste state to a new state, and then his brilliantly flexible combo of ‘play this pattern x times’ and then the instruction to ‘play next /first/last/any’ etc. Makes it really easy to build out a whole structure from a single improvised pattern. Guess this counts as as a big ask though...

  • @Svetlovska said:
    @syrupcore , @Alexandernaut : if I were to add a second wish to transpose it would be a big +1 to the idea of borrowing @brambos ’ approach to sequencing as showcased particularly in Bassline, with Mutate, rotate patterns left right up and down in pattern, copy/paste state to a new state, and then his brilliantly flexible combo of ‘play this pattern x times’ and then the instruction to ‘play next /first/last/any’ etc. Makes it really easy to build out a whole structure from a single improvised pattern. Guess this counts as as a big ask though...

    • this and Joining the crowd for updates, custom scales & vertical controls (rotary hurts my heart).

    Amazing app!

  • As much control input from MIDI controllers as possible would open this instrument up in amazing ways.

  • edited May 2020

    An idea for removing the dotted and triplet versions of each clock division (current/original on top):

    Figure most of us use straight quarter notes most of the time. This would make getting to them a little easier. To change to dotted or triplet you'd scroll with one finger to select the division, tap a button with another finger and then release.

    It also flips the direction of the Invert button to make room for the new buttons. Same total space.

  • @syrupcore said:
    An idea for removing the dotted and triplet versions of each clock division (current/original on top):

    Figure most of us use straight quarter notes most of the time. This would make getting to them a little easier. To change to dotted or triplet you'd scroll with one finger to select the division, tap a button with another finger and then release.

    It also flips the direction of the Invert button to make room for the new buttons. Same total space.

    I would kindly ask that any UI changes like this would be available as user settings. I constantly make use of switching between regular and dotted values (less so triplets, but occasionally) and I'm frequently using several of my fingers to make this happen!

    Requiring two fingers to go from e.g. x1 to dotted /2 would be a nightmare for me!

    That said, I can see the utility for most people and I could even see making use of the regular/dotted/triplet panel.

  • 1) user-defined custom scales
    2) midi access to the transpose bar
    3) more note length options

  • tpjtpj
    edited May 2020

    Here is an idea.

    If you record a midi sequence in Photon.
    Then assign the same buffer to 4 pads.
    You can midi map all these controls individually for every pad.
    Which is pretty much a jam version of fugue machine.

    Then add a 2nd Photon instance and record everything from Photon 1.

    Just saying.😎


    Add these to the mix.

  • edited May 2020

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    1) user-defined custom scales
    2) midi access to the transpose bar
    3) more note length options

    4) independent loop braces per play head.

  • @tpj said:
    Here is an idea.

    If you record a midi sequence in Photon.
    Then assign the same buffer to 4 pads.
    You can midi map all these controls individually for every pad.
    Which is pretty much a jam version of fugue machine.

    Then add a 2nd Photon instance and record everything from Photon 1.

    Just saying.😎


    Add these to the mix.

    It is a good idea, but it lacks the immediacy of using FM live.
    Using Photon, you cannot change the sequence of master notes in subtle ways, on the fly, like you can using FM.
    But for people looking to work with static sequences, and just do the invert, reverse, offset, transpose, etc. transformations then Photon does work well.

  • @CracklePot said:

    @tpj said:
    Here is an idea.

    If you record a midi sequence in Photon.
    Then assign the same buffer to 4 pads.
    You can midi map all these controls individually for every pad.
    Which is pretty much a jam version of fugue machine.

    Then add a 2nd Photon instance and record everything from Photon 1.

    Just saying.😎

    It is a good idea, but it lacks the immediacy of using FM live.
    Using Photon, you cannot change the sequence of master notes in subtle ways, on the fly, like you can using FM.
    But for people looking to work with static sequences, and just do the invert, reverse, offset, transpose, etc. transformations then Photon does work well.

    For sure, Fugue Machine is special and unique in many ways. I just can't believe that it still doesn't have the midi control that an app like Photon has. Would be amazing if it did.

  • thanks for this thread y'all!

  • Here’s a patch that takes FM to the next level: Run its output into an arpeggiator. Instant clouds of ambient sparkles. You really have to dial all the settings way back to make it sound good though. One play head with a very simple, trivial melody is sufficient. Simplify enough and it will improvise long jazz lines for you.

  • @hibjshop said:
    @Svetlovska u read my mind

    Record midi note input PLEASE!!!
    This is the one thing that keeps me from reaching for it. Creating a sequence of notes on the midi keyboard and not being able to record that quickly and directly into Fugue to use its magic is a total buzz kill.

    As @Carnbot said, very suprised its not already there.

    @Svetlovska does cykle allow this (realtime midi note recording)??

    Exact. Any update? I dream about it.

    1. Different Piano roll grid sizes
    2. when 2 notes touch each other the second note rarely triggers
    3. exposed parameters for lfo modulation
  • I really want the ability to enter notes fro. I have external keyboard but I think I remember Alexander explaining here that that is not possible due to existing limitations in the app.

  • Hello helpful iOS musicians..
    In Fugue Machine...how do you cut and paste notes within a pattern?
    I can select, move, delete notes.
    I can copy patterns to patterns and make another preset in browser...but....cut and paste?!
    Thanks
    IOSSOS.

  • @IOSSOS said:
    Hello helpful iOS musicians..
    In Fugue Machine...how do you cut and paste notes within a pattern?
    I can select, move, delete notes.
    I can copy patterns to patterns and make another preset in browser...but....cut and paste?!
    Thanks
    IOSSOS.

    Hold the Shift button (top left) and pan selected notes (either with 1 finger directly on a note, or 2 fingers anywhere on the piano roll) 🙌

  • @Alexandernaut said:

    @IOSSOS said:
    Hello helpful iOS musicians..
    In Fugue Machine...how do you cut and paste notes within a pattern?
    I can select, move, delete notes.
    I can copy patterns to patterns and make another preset in browser...but....cut and paste?!
    Thanks
    IOSSOS.

    Hold the Shift button (top left) and pan selected notes (either with 1 finger directly on a note, or 2 fingers anywhere on the piano roll) 🙌

    Thanks...that works!

  • Copy paste is fine

  • @Alexandernaut said:

    @IOSSOS said:
    Hello helpful iOS musicians..
    In Fugue Machine...how do you cut and paste notes within a pattern?
    I can select, move, delete notes.
    I can copy patterns to patterns and make another preset in browser...but....cut and paste?!
    Thanks
    IOSSOS.

    Hold the Shift button (top left) and pan selected notes (either with 1 finger directly on a note, or 2 fingers anywhere on the piano roll) 🙌

    Soooo... about that update?

  • edited May 2021

    @ashh said:

    @Alexandernaut said:

    @IOSSOS said:
    Hello helpful iOS musicians..
    In Fugue Machine...how do you cut and paste notes within a pattern?
    I can select, move, delete notes.
    I can copy patterns to patterns and make another preset in browser...but....cut and paste?!
    Thanks
    IOSSOS.

    Hold the Shift button (top left) and pan selected notes (either with 1 finger directly on a note, or 2 fingers anywhere on the piano roll) 🙌

    Soooo... about that update?

    lol 🙈. I'm still working on the new thing and it's tough to switch focus. One day 😅.

  • Not that this helps but what if Fugue Machine could be used as an arpeggiator for incoming MIDI?

  • @Alexandernaut said:

    @ashh said:

    @Alexandernaut said:

    @IOSSOS said:
    Hello helpful iOS musicians..
    In Fugue Machine...how do you cut and paste notes within a pattern?
    I can select, move, delete notes.
    I can copy patterns to patterns and make another preset in browser...but....cut and paste?!
    Thanks
    IOSSOS.

    Hold the Shift button (top left) and pan selected notes (either with 1 finger directly on a note, or 2 fingers anywhere on the piano roll) 🙌

    Soooo... about that update?

    lol 🙈. I'm still working on the new thing and it's tough to switch focus. One day 😅.

    S'all good. Least you're still actively active.

  • @Alexandernaut said:

    @ashh said:

    @Alexandernaut said:

    @IOSSOS said:
    Hello helpful iOS musicians..
    In Fugue Machine...how do you cut and paste notes within a pattern?
    I can select, move, delete notes.
    I can copy patterns to patterns and make another preset in browser...but....cut and paste?!
    Thanks
    IOSSOS.

    Hold the Shift button (top left) and pan selected notes (either with 1 finger directly on a note, or 2 fingers anywhere on the piano roll) 🙌

    Soooo... about that update?

    lol 🙈. I'm still working on the new thing and it's tough to switch focus. One day 😅.

    Good to know, thank you 😊

  • @OscarSouth said:
    Not that this helps but what if Fugue Machine could be used as an arpeggiator for incoming MIDI?

    I often use FM as midi input for an arpeggiator. Sometimes I mix it with keyboard notes. Strongly recommend trying this!

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