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What if AUM was able to do split view and slide over?

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  • @tja said:

    @sclurbs said:
    If AUM got something resembling an arrangement view, I would throw out my laptop and never pirate another copy of Ableton in my life. I feel like it's not too far off from this, I can already multi track record full tracks in AUM, and play them all back in separate tracks. Seems like a pretty easy step to go from there to having a simple arrangement view type visual to the tracks being played

    Did you try MultiTrack Audio Recorder from 4Pockets?

    Or Loopy Pro

  • @sclurbs said:

    @auxmux said:

    @sclurbs said:

    @auxmux said:

    @sclurbs said:
    If AUM got something resembling an arrangement view, I would throw out my laptop and never pirate another copy of Ableton in my life. I feel like it's not too far off from this, I can already multi track record full tracks in AUM, and play them all back in separate tracks. Seems like a pretty easy step to go from there to having a simple arrangement view type visual to the tracks being played

    Get Logic. AUM is great but if you want to record and arrange, Logic covers this.

    Is there a paid version of logic that isn't a monthly subscription?

    Sadly not. Only on desktop for now.

    Damn. Monthly subscriptions don't really fit into my lifestyle.

    Pay for a year then; it’s only $49.. Then you have a whole year to save up.

  • edited June 2023

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @sclurbs said:

    @auxmux said:

    @sclurbs said:

    @auxmux said:

    @sclurbs said:
    If AUM got something resembling an arrangement view, I would throw out my laptop and never pirate another copy of Ableton in my life. I feel like it's not too far off from this, I can already multi track record full tracks in AUM, and play them all back in separate tracks. Seems like a pretty easy step to go from there to having a simple arrangement view type visual to the tracks being played

    Get Logic. AUM is great but if you want to record and arrange, Logic covers this.

    Is there a paid version of logic that isn't a monthly subscription?

    Sadly not. Only on desktop for now.

    Damn. Monthly subscriptions don't really fit into my lifestyle.

    Pay for a year then; it’s only $49.. Then you have a whole year to save up.

    Or I could spend 49$ on something I can still use after the year is up lol

    Closest thing to investing in learning a subscription based application I'll come to is the Loopy pro model. Where you pay for another year of updates and then if you stop you still have the thing up to that point. I feel like that's fair for both consumer and developer but I'm never buying into a fully time share based app ecosystem.

  • @tja said:

    @sclurbs said:

    @tja said:

    @sclurbs said:

    @tja said:

    @sclurbs said:
    If AUM got something resembling an arrangement view, I would throw out my laptop and never pirate another copy of Ableton in my life. I feel like it's not too far off from this, I can already multi track record full tracks in AUM, and play them all back in separate tracks. Seems like a pretty easy step to go from there to having a simple arrangement view type visual to the tracks being played

    Did you try MultiTrack Audio Recorder from 4Pockets?

    I haven't. I have a lot of 4pockets apps.... they're great but for some reason I tend to forget about them. I think it might have something to do with the app icons and GUI being essentially the same for all of the apps

    Do you get a lot of use out of that one?

    Have a look at this:

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/35301/multitrack-recorder-plugin-by-4pockets-com

    Thanks! Looks great. What brings you to these parts if you don't create music?

    I love Apps and like to dabble around 🤗
    But I never produce anything useful ... doesn't matter

    Dabbling around for the fun of it is useful in itself!

  • @auxmux said:

    @sclurbs said:
    If AUM got something resembling an arrangement view, I would throw out my laptop and never pirate another copy of Ableton in my life. I feel like it's not too far off from this, I can already multi track record full tracks in AUM, and play them all back in separate tracks. Seems like a pretty easy step to go from there to having a simple arrangement view type visual to the tracks being played

    Get Logic. AUM is great but if you want to record and arrange, Logic covers this.

    You say that, but AUM is so well-geared towards live performance- an arrangement view that could then allow auv3 fx automation would be end game for me.

  • edited June 2023

    AUM would benefit from many things. But it needs one thing. Just one: editable automation.

    I may have mentioned this once or twice to @j_liljedahl

  • @Svetlovska said:
    AUM would benefit from many things. But it needs one thing. Just one: editable automation.

    I may have mentioned this once or twice to @j_liljedahl

    That and being able to view 8 tracks at once and I’d never use anything else. I still rarely do but that would seal the deal for me.

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  • @sclurbs said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @sclurbs said:

    @auxmux said:

    @sclurbs said:

    @auxmux said:

    @sclurbs said:
    If AUM got something resembling an arrangement view, I would throw out my laptop and never pirate another copy of Ableton in my life. I feel like it's not too far off from this, I can already multi track record full tracks in AUM, and play them all back in separate tracks. Seems like a pretty easy step to go from there to having a simple arrangement view type visual to the tracks being played

    Get Logic. AUM is great but if you want to record and arrange, Logic covers this.

    Is there a paid version of logic that isn't a monthly subscription?

    Sadly not. Only on desktop for now.

    Damn. Monthly subscriptions don't really fit into my lifestyle.

    Pay for a year then; it’s only $49.. Then you have a whole year to save up.

    Or I could spend 49$ on something I can still use after the year is up lol

    Closest thing to investing in learning a subscription based application I'll come to is the Loopy pro model. Where you pay for another year of updates and then if you stop you still have the thing up to that point. I feel like that's fair for both consumer and developer but I'm never buying into a fully time share based app ecosystem.

    This chatting about subscription on Logic Pro - take it or leave it - if you don’t wanna pay subscription for Logic Pro, go for the other less featurebased DAW:s on the iPad platform…

    If you ain’t can’t afford a BMW or Mercedes, go for a Toyota or Ford…

    Take Adobe as an example, they have 30 million subscribers to Adobe CC, everyone of them in the same position, they loosing access to the apps if they aren’t paying the monthly fee.

    Still, Adobe has a lot of competition, like Affinity Suite, Corel etc etc, but, folks still go for Adobe…

  • @Svetlovska said:
    AUM would benefit from many things. But it needs one thing. Just one: editable automation.

    I may have mentioned this once or twice to @j_liljedahl

    That would be fabulous
    Also, I ’d love to see landscape on iPhones, with an automatic full screen view of AUv3s.
    I’ve given up on using the phone for music these days

  • Split View support for AUM would be super sweet. I mean it already scales somewhat ok...

  • Indeed, would love split view support for AUM.

  • @Samu said:
    Split View support for AUM would be super sweet. I mean it already scales somewhat ok...

    good to see this topic still glimming :)

  • @nuno_agogo said:

    @Samu said:
    Split View support for AUM would be super sweet. I mean it already scales somewhat ok...

    good to see this topic still glimming :)

    Things like these need a 'reminder' from time to time :sunglasses:

    @j_liljedahl how hard is it to technically enable split-view for AUM?

  • @Samu said:

    @nuno_agogo said:

    @Samu said:
    Split View support for AUM would be super sweet. I mean it already scales somewhat ok...

    good to see this topic still glimming :)

    Things like these need a 'reminder' from time to time :sunglasses:

    @j_liljedahl how hard is it to technically enable split-view for AUM?

    A lot of UI layout code would need to be refactored to be able to dynamically resize as needed. Currently it decides at launch how to layout the UI depending on the screen size, and then some things are tweaked when orientation changes between landscape/portrait. So, certainly doable but needs some work and there are more pressing things to do first :)

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  • If we’re e pressing aum wishes, I’d like built in lfos!

  • @tja said:

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @Samu said:

    @nuno_agogo said:

    @Samu said:
    Split View support for AUM would be super sweet. I mean it already scales somewhat ok...

    good to see this topic still glimming :)

    Things like these need a 'reminder' from time to time :sunglasses:

    @j_liljedahl how hard is it to technically enable split-view for AUM?

    A lot of UI layout code would need to be refactored to be able to dynamically resize as needed. Currently it decides at launch how to layout the UI depending on the screen size, and then some things are tweaked when orientation changes between landscape/portrait. So, certainly doable but needs some work and there are more pressing things to do first :)

    I wouldn't resize at all, if you meant scaling content.

    Just show a smaller stripe of nodes, like already done on different sized iPads.
    Just assume the display is half the size, the rest of the code may then just work 😅🤗

    Example:

    Loopy Pro scales down, for Split View.
    Does the same for AUM would like like this:

    Instead, just show a smaller stripe but at the same scale:

    This may not be easily possible with Loopy Pro or other Apps, but AUM already shows just a stripe of all the configured nodes and you need to move to the left or right to see the others.

    Just make this stripe smaller, exactly half of the original.

    Yeah the channel strips are not the problem, but there's a top bar as well where some things are different depending on screen width.

  • @sevenape said:
    If we’re e pressing aum wishes, I’d like built in lfos!

    Yeah that’d be cool..

    Shoot, while we’re wishing for things @j_liljedahl, I’d like an AUM AUv3 version that I can host inside other hosts like Loopy Pro, Drambo, or Logic Pro.

    Of course I realize that this would take away the ability to host AUv3s while being hosted as an AUv3 itself, but think about the audio and midi routing possibilities with the file recorders and such. Especially if AUM got built in LFOs and such.

    Maybe make it a separate app, and call it AMM (Audio & MIDI Mixer)? Or just publish it as an IAP inside AUM?

    Loopy Pro and Drambo can do it (Act as the host or be hosted as AUv3s)


    My other wish for AUM is the addition of “Stackable or Sub channels”

    Right now, on the largest iPads, you can get 5 channel strips on the screen at once, but for the majority, it’s 4 channels. I would like the ability to Stack channels, or maybe add SUB channels.

    For example, when using a multi-out AUv3 app (I’ll use Hammerhead for example), Currently you create the main channel, then 8 more channels for each multiout channel, which means you’re now having to scroll left and right for more than two entire screens just to be able to access only the Hammerhead multiout channels. And this is just one 8 channel multiout app; the multiout apps with more output channels like FAC Drumkit which has up to 16 output channels means twice as many. (That’s 4 screenfuls of just FAC Drumkit channels to have to go back and forth with.)

    Yes, I do know about the bookmark features in AUM, and they do help, but what about a “Stacking feature” where a channel could have a option (button under the channel info/output node) that sends it to a “parent “ channel as a “Sub-channel”?
    Then you could stack all of Hammerhead’s or FAC Drumkit’s multiout channels under their main/parent channel to hide them, and of course have the ability to unfold or expand them when needed.

    The parent channel of course should have a visual indicator that it contains “Sub-channels” with an obvious button to “Pop open” all of the associated sub-channels.

    The more I think about it, the more I realize this is what AUM really needs (in my personal opinion of course!)

    If not, then what about adding vertical pages like Loopy Pro has? You could have a selector button to switch from screen A, to Screen B, etc. This way, one could have their Hammerhead multiout and all of its respective multiout channels out of the way on the “B screen”.

    I’m sure all of this has already been thought about.

    I’m just sitting here thinking out loud while enjoying my morning cup of coffee ☕️

  • @Edward_Alexander said:
    My other wish for AUM is the addition of “Stackable or Sub channels”

    Right now, on the largest iPads, you can get 5 channel strips on the screen at once, but for the majority, it’s 4 channels. I would like the ability to Stack channels, or maybe add SUB channels.

    For example, when using a multi-out AUv3 app (I’ll use Hammerhead for example), Currently you create the main channel, then 8 more channels for each multiout channel, which means you’re now having to scroll left and right for more than two entire screens just to be able to access only the Hammerhead multiout channels. And this is just one 8 channel multiout app; the multiout apps with more output channels like FAC Drumkit which has up to 16 output channels means twice as many. (That’s 4 screenfuls of just FAC Drumkit channels to have to go back and forth with.)

    Yes, I do know about the bookmark features in AUM, and they do help, but what about a “Stacking feature” where a channel could have a option (button under the channel info/output node) that sends it to a “parent “ channel as a “Sub-channel”?
    Then you could stack all of Hammerhead’s or FAC Drumkit’s multiout channels under their main/parent channel to hide them, and of course have the ability to unfold or expand them when needed.

    The parent channel of course should have a visual indicator that it contains “Sub-channels” with an obvious button to “Pop open” all of the associated sub-channels.

    The more I think about it, the more I realize this is what AUM really needs (in my personal opinion of course!)

    If not, then what about adding vertical pages like Loopy Pro has? You could have a selector button to switch from screen A, to Screen B, etc. This way, one could have their Hammerhead multiout and all of its respective multiout channels out of the way on the “B screen”.

    One idea I'm planning is to have collapsible channel folders, which are simply a visualisation of mix bussing. So a bus receive strip can collapse all the strips sending to that bus into itself, and you can control the folders master volume and effects etc on it. So as long as you send all the Hammerhead outputs to the same bus, it would help for this purpose.

    Collapsing channel strips into any unrelated channel strip doesn't make sense for me, sorry. But for that, another idea I have is tab groups, so you can easily filter which strips are displayed.

  • @j_liljedahl said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    My other wish for AUM is the addition of “Stackable or Sub channels”

    Right now, on the largest iPads, you can get 5 channel strips on the screen at once, but for the majority, it’s 4 channels. I would like the ability to Stack channels, or maybe add SUB channels.

    For example, when using a multi-out AUv3 app (I’ll use Hammerhead for example), Currently you create the main channel, then 8 more channels for each multiout channel, which means you’re now having to scroll left and right for more than two entire screens just to be able to access only the Hammerhead multiout channels. And this is just one 8 channel multiout app; the multiout apps with more output channels like FAC Drumkit which has up to 16 output channels means twice as many. (That’s 4 screenfuls of just FAC Drumkit channels to have to go back and forth with.)

    Yes, I do know about the bookmark features in AUM, and they do help, but what about a “Stacking feature” where a channel could have a option (button under the channel info/output node) that sends it to a “parent “ channel as a “Sub-channel”?
    Then you could stack all of Hammerhead’s or FAC Drumkit’s multiout channels under their main/parent channel to hide them, and of course have the ability to unfold or expand them when needed.

    The parent channel of course should have a visual indicator that it contains “Sub-channels” with an obvious button to “Pop open” all of the associated sub-channels.

    The more I think about it, the more I realize this is what AUM really needs (in my personal opinion of course!)

    If not, then what about adding vertical pages like Loopy Pro has? You could have a selector button to switch from screen A, to Screen B, etc. This way, one could have their Hammerhead multiout and all of its respective multiout channels out of the way on the “B screen”.

    One idea I'm planning is to have collapsible channel folders, which are simply a visualisation of mix bussing. So a bus receive strip can collapse all the strips sending to that bus into itself, and you can control the folders master volume and effects etc on it. So as long as you send all the Hammerhead outputs to the same bus, it would help for this purpose.

    Collapsing channel strips into any unrelated channel strip doesn't make sense for me, sorry. But for that, another idea I have is tab groups, so you can easily filter which strips are displayed.

    Collapsing channel strips into any unrelated channel strip doesn’t make sense to me either. I was talking about multiout channels (children) belonging to their respective parent channel. I’ve used Hammerhead and/or FAC Drumkit as examples.

    Your collapsible channel folder, and tab group idea both sound like they could be solid improvements.

    Thank you for your consideration!

  • @Edward_Alexander said:

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    My other wish for AUM is the addition of “Stackable or Sub channels”

    Right now, on the largest iPads, you can get 5 channel strips on the screen at once, but for the majority, it’s 4 channels. I would like the ability to Stack channels, or maybe add SUB channels.

    For example, when using a multi-out AUv3 app (I’ll use Hammerhead for example), Currently you create the main channel, then 8 more channels for each multiout channel, which means you’re now having to scroll left and right for more than two entire screens just to be able to access only the Hammerhead multiout channels. And this is just one 8 channel multiout app; the multiout apps with more output channels like FAC Drumkit which has up to 16 output channels means twice as many. (That’s 4 screenfuls of just FAC Drumkit channels to have to go back and forth with.)

    Yes, I do know about the bookmark features in AUM, and they do help, but what about a “Stacking feature” where a channel could have a option (button under the channel info/output node) that sends it to a “parent “ channel as a “Sub-channel”?
    Then you could stack all of Hammerhead’s or FAC Drumkit’s multiout channels under their main/parent channel to hide them, and of course have the ability to unfold or expand them when needed.

    The parent channel of course should have a visual indicator that it contains “Sub-channels” with an obvious button to “Pop open” all of the associated sub-channels.

    The more I think about it, the more I realize this is what AUM really needs (in my personal opinion of course!)

    If not, then what about adding vertical pages like Loopy Pro has? You could have a selector button to switch from screen A, to Screen B, etc. This way, one could have their Hammerhead multiout and all of its respective multiout channels out of the way on the “B screen”.

    One idea I'm planning is to have collapsible channel folders, which are simply a visualisation of mix bussing. So a bus receive strip can collapse all the strips sending to that bus into itself, and you can control the folders master volume and effects etc on it. So as long as you send all the Hammerhead outputs to the same bus, it would help for this purpose.

    Collapsing channel strips into any unrelated channel strip doesn't make sense for me, sorry. But for that, another idea I have is tab groups, so you can easily filter which strips are displayed.

    Collapsing channel strips into any unrelated channel strip doesn’t make sense to me either. I was talking about multiout channels (children) belonging to their respective parent channel. I’ve used Hammerhead and/or FAC Drumkit as examples.

    Your collapsible channel folder, and tab group idea both sound like they could be solid improvements.

    Thank you for your consideration!

    Oh, I see what you mean now by "parent channel". Right, that would be a nice thing to have, and I'll give it some thought and consideration. Some UI issues that springs to mind: where would the expand/collapse button be located? Could it be confusing that the "children" being collapsed/expanded might not be visible on the current mixer page?

  • @j_liljedahl said:
    One idea I'm planning is to have collapsible channel folders, which are simply a visualisation of mix bussing. So a bus receive strip can collapse all the strips sending to that bus into itself, and you can control the folders master volume and effects etc on it. So as long as you send all the Hammerhead outputs to the same bus, it would help for this purpose.

    Collapsing channel strips into any unrelated channel strip doesn't make sense for me, sorry. But for that, another idea I have is tab groups, so you can easily filter which strips are displayed.

    Yeah that does make sense :)
    folders is the wrong term I think, it is more like grouping and bussing. But bussed subgroups also do make sense, so I'm not sure what you mean by "unrelated" as you make the relationships by combining parts to build instruments with subgroups etc You could say it's how in a DAW like Ableton or a modular environment you build complex instruments but then display and organise them more simply. I think this could also be great in AUM in theory too....but starting with collapsing a bussed set of channels does make sense to begin with I agree. Tab groups is also a good idea I think.

  • edited January 2024

    @j_liljedahl here’s just a quick idea of where the buttons, and visual indicators could be.

    A button right next to the “bookmark channel” button to collapse to multi-out “parent” channel. If using multiple multi-out apps, a menu to choose which one could be shown like the one you have for creating the multi-out channels.

    Then, a visual indicator, like for example, an extra ring around the source node of the parent channel, indicating that it has collapsed channels inside (children). Maybe a long press to expand the “family”?

  • @Carnbot said:

    @j_liljedahl said:
    One idea I'm planning is to have collapsible channel folders, which are simply a visualisation of mix bussing. So a bus receive strip can collapse all the strips sending to that bus into itself, and you can control the folders master volume and effects etc on it. So as long as you send all the Hammerhead outputs to the same bus, it would help for this purpose.

    Collapsing channel strips into any unrelated channel strip doesn't make sense for me, sorry. But for that, another idea I have is tab groups, so you can easily filter which strips are displayed.

    Yeah that does make sense :)
    folders is the wrong term I think, it is more like grouping and bussing. But bussed subgroups also do make sense, so I'm not sure what you mean by "unrelated" as you make the relationships by combining parts to build instruments with subgroups etc You could say it's how in a DAW like Ableton or a modular environment you build complex instruments but then display and organise them more simply. I think this could also be great in AUM in theory too....but starting with collapsing a bussed set of channels does make sense to begin with I agree. Tab groups is also a good idea I think.

    The only desktop DAW I ever use is Reaper, and there "folders" are essentially mix busses. A quick web search says that Logic Pro has this too but calls it "Summing stacks". I might call them "bus folders" in the Users Guide, since it's a folder for a bus. I don't think the UI will show any textual term for this feature.

  • edited January 2024

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @j_liljedahl said:
    One idea I'm planning is to have collapsible channel folders, which are simply a visualisation of mix bussing. So a bus receive strip can collapse all the strips sending to that bus into itself, and you can control the folders master volume and effects etc on it. So as long as you send all the Hammerhead outputs to the same bus, it would help for this purpose.

    Collapsing channel strips into any unrelated channel strip doesn't make sense for me, sorry. But for that, another idea I have is tab groups, so you can easily filter which strips are displayed.

    Yeah that does make sense :)
    folders is the wrong term I think, it is more like grouping and bussing. But bussed subgroups also do make sense, so I'm not sure what you mean by "unrelated" as you make the relationships by combining parts to build instruments with subgroups etc You could say it's how in a DAW like Ableton or a modular environment you build complex instruments but then display and organise them more simply. I think this could also be great in AUM in theory too....but starting with collapsing a bussed set of channels does make sense to begin with I agree. Tab groups is also a good idea I think.

    The only desktop DAW I ever use is Reaper, and there "folders" are essentially mix busses. A quick web search says that Logic Pro has this too but calls it "Summing stacks". I might call them "bus folders" in the Users Guide, since it's a folder for a bus. I don't think the UI will show any textual term for this feature.

    Yeah it's all similar to Ableton too, there it's called groups, subgroups, chains, racks (I forget the other types) and they're all busses of somekind, but you unfold them from collapsable stacks.

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