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Moog 3P / $35,000 plus shipping

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  • McDMcD
    edited May 2020

    There's a room in hell with this modular patchable synth (and no piano) reserved for you work with for eternity... and no keyboard of any type. You have to work for a long time just to get it to play in tune
    I think.

    Don't toy with the devil. That Moog technology led to your new emulating tools like the RC275 and the ES8.

    Presets are pretty cool if you just want to get to work making music.

  • The old Synthesizerstudio Bonn had one of those. I felt always a bit sacrilegious when they let me play with it.

  • edited May 2020

    Or buy these two and a nice car:

    (Pulsar P900)

  • I’ll wait a few months for the Behringer duplicate.

  • @u0421793 said:
    I’ll wait a few months for the Behringer duplicate.

    Came looking for this comment. I have to say that I quite like Behringer's synth resurrections and how they've disrupted the market. It looks like there's room for the originals along side the clones. I do love my K2.

  • I bet @LinearLineman will be in as soon as Behringer have their final masterpiece done:
    Keith Emerson's Moog Modular. With presets.

  • edited May 2020

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @ashh said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I’ll wait a few months for the Behringer duplicate.

    Came looking for this comment. I have to say that I quite like Behringer's synth resurrections and how they've disrupted the market. It looks like there's room for the originals along side the clones. I do love my K2.

    Did you have a chance to compare it to the original or other korg remakes?
    I'm thinking about getting one just to try and compare with my ms20m... if the sound is right B wins because of the size and easier patchability

    I didn't get to do that, more's the pity. What's the difference between the Mini and the K2?

  • @0tolerance4silence said:

    @ashh said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @ashh said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I’ll wait a few months for the Behringer duplicate.

    Came looking for this comment. I have to say that I quite like Behringer's synth resurrections and how they've disrupted the market. It looks like there's room for the originals along side the clones. I do love my K2.

    Did you have a chance to compare it to the original or other korg remakes?
    I'm thinking about getting one just to try and compare with my ms20m... if the sound is right B wins because of the size and easier patchability

    I didn't get to do that, more's the pity. What's the difference between the Mini and the K2?

    Sorry, I meant ms20(module)
    It has few extras (switchable sync and fm, original filter and revised (slightly cleaner) and of course pwm mod in :)) but if k2 does bring the ms20 'thing' I think I would go for it... if it sounds and feels right.
    I think mini and k2 are identical (at least on paper)

    Are there any such comparisons between all renditions of MS-20 class products, which also include a comparison with Korg’s iMS-20 app?

  • And still on the 3P no control over each oscillators individual pulse width just one knob to control all 6, I think I'll pass! :D

    I recently decided to dig into some of the SID tricks and one of them was to change the pulse-width and pitch of a synced square wave. This tune heavily uses that trick. Knuckle Busters by Rob Hubbard :)

  • edited May 2020

    @rs2000 said:
    Or buy these two and a nice car:

    (Pulsar P900)

    This. More versatile, sounds even better (for me personally), more voices, included amazing FX and last but not least the developer is preparing also things for iOS (since code get converted to JUCE, it might start with their new FX unit(s)).

  • @0tolerance4silence said:

    @u0421793 said:
    Are there any such comparisons between all renditions of MS-20 class products, which also include a comparison with Korg’s iMS-20 app?

    Or do you mean spec wise?

    No, sound-wise.

    I used to have an MS-10, MS-20 and SQ-10 (and a pair of KPR-77 drum machines to use as s-triggers). Now I’d be just as happy with the iMS-20 as the sound is close enough for me plus I can save patches. Of all the Behringer units in that rackable tabletop format, the MS-20 one is the one that appeals to me the most (the sophisticated external in with pitch-CV, and also the VC HPF plus VC LPF, plus a spare VCA).

  • Synthesizers.com (DOTCOM) has been a thing now for a very long time. No reason to buy Moogs overpriced system. I’m sure it sound good, but everyone of those modules is available in the “MU” modular format from different manufacturers for cheaper. Plus, you can build a system one module at a Time or as your budget allows. I’ve had a few different 5U systems (including Dotcom) over the years and they’re great.

    https://synthesizers.com/

  • edited May 2020
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  • Does it come with a Plug Adapter?... :D

  • @Max23 said:
    Overpriced old junk
    Get something modern like the new Behringer Roland system 100 m clones
    Much easier to patch, everything is attenuated , has multiple inputs, trallala
    So you don’t get a big spiderweb for trivial things

    It’s only 100 bugs a module, so it doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. https://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_112_dual_vco.htm

    I must admit I do find this one quite interesting.

  • edited May 2020

    I’m getting a patch-baby robot for mine for preset management. Manual patching is for paupers.

  • @Max23 said:
    Overpriced old junk
    Get something modern like the new Behringer Roland system 100 m clones
    Much easier to patch, everything is attenuated , has multiple inputs, trallala
    So you don’t get a big spiderweb for trivial things

    It’s only 100 bugs a module, so it doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. https://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_112_dual_vco.htm

    Nice try. It’s very well known that 1/4‘‘ jacks sound much better than 1/8‘‘. 🤪

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  • edited May 2020

    I actually have no interest in this behemoth. And I could never figure it out. I just put it up for you guys to talk about 😘

  • @Philandering_Bastard said:

    @Max23 said:
    Overpriced old junk
    Get something modern like the new Behringer Roland system 100 m clones
    Much easier to patch, everything is attenuated , has multiple inputs, trallala
    So you don’t get a big spiderweb for trivial things

    It’s only 100 bugs a module, so it doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. https://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_112_dual_vco.htm

    Nice try. It’s very well known that 1/4‘‘ jacks sound much better than 1/8‘‘. 🤪

    Only with platinum :)

  • @Clueless said:

    @Philandering_Bastard said:

    @Max23 said:
    Overpriced old junk
    Get something modern like the new Behringer Roland system 100 m clones
    Much easier to patch, everything is attenuated , has multiple inputs, trallala
    So you don’t get a big spiderweb for trivial things

    It’s only 100 bugs a module, so it doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. https://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_112_dual_vco.htm

    Nice try. It’s very well known that 1/4‘‘ jacks sound much better than 1/8‘‘. 🤪

    Only with platinum :)

    Don’t I know it. This here is my cable of choice:

    https://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-6-56-Braided-Cable/dp/B003CT2A2M/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

    Sample reviews:

  • @Philandering_Bastard said:

    @Clueless said:

    @Philandering_Bastard said:

    @Max23 said:
    Overpriced old junk
    Get something modern like the new Behringer Roland system 100 m clones
    Much easier to patch, everything is attenuated , has multiple inputs, trallala
    So you don’t get a big spiderweb for trivial things

    It’s only 100 bugs a module, so it doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. https://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_112_dual_vco.htm

    Nice try. It’s very well known that 1/4‘‘ jacks sound much better than 1/8‘‘. 🤪

    Only with platinum :)

    Don’t I know it. This here is my cable of choice:

    https://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-6-56-Braided-Cable/dp/B003CT2A2M/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

    Sample reviews:

    Placebo effect? :)

  • @Philandering_Bastard & @Clueless
    I never thought about using a satellite receiver in a modular rig but now that you say it... 😅

  • @rs2000 said:
    @Philandering_Bastard & @Clueless
    I never thought about using a satellite receiver in a modular rig but now that you say it... 😅

    Read the comments. That entry has been around for years and used to retail for around 6000 USD. Don’t know about sales but it led to some outstanding short prose pieces.

  • These days you can get 13 modules of analog synthesizer for €449 (plus shipping). It's crazy. And so little. And you can save presets, and put it away in a drawer when you're not patching.
    https://reverb.com/item/29311431-erica-synths-pico-system-iii-desktop
    [no affiliation with/experience of this seller, but it's the cheapest listing I found]

    They say that, "You and all your future generations can spend a lifetime only patching the Pico System III", which is what puts me off.

  • @colonel_mustard said:
    These days you can get 13 modules of analog synthesizer for €449 (plus shipping). It's crazy. And so little. And you can save presets, and put it away in a drawer when you're not patching.
    https://reverb.com/item/29311431-erica-synths-pico-system-iii-desktop
    [no affiliation with/experience of this seller, but it's the cheapest listing I found]

    They say that, "You and all your future generations can spend a lifetime only patching the Pico System III", which is what puts me off.

    Presets?

  • No free shipping? Fuck that; I’m out.

  • Well the model 10 costs 10k. So it's generally in line with the pricing. Guess that's the price of things when you pay skilled workers what they're worth in a 1st world country (no I don't like that term much but hey), using the best components (some probably vintage and virtually unobtanium), hand built to the highest standards. Pedigree of the company aside and maybe that's not even an unfair markup.
    It's not on their website, may it's even a one off. It certainly wasn't built for the general market and it certainly wasn't built for me, so personally I'm not going to get upset about it. I don't think average price of Moog is unreasonable considering what you're getting, compare it with the Linnstrument, or for that matter a Harpejji, or any other number of handcrafted instruments. OK so not cheap, Chinese manufactured to just about acceptable standards cheap, but not unreasonable. I think there is a place in the world for that.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    Presets?

    Loopop shows us how:

    tbh I'm avoiding modular. More drawn to the 0-Coast than this one, but even that's risky. I can see it leading to a small case with a Morphagene and a few other bits and pieces.

  • @colonel_mustard said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    Presets?

    Loopop shows us how:

    tbh I'm avoiding modular. More drawn to the 0-Coast than this one, but even that's risky. I can see it leading to a small case with a Morphagene and a few other bits and pieces.

    Thanks, I didn’t know about the cards! And Morphagene is indeed a gateway drug.

    If you want a semi-modular that doesn’t get you hooked on eurorack, Plumbutter is a good choice.

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