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Presets?
No free shipping? Fuck that; I’m out.
Well the model 10 costs 10k. So it's generally in line with the pricing. Guess that's the price of things when you pay skilled workers what they're worth in a 1st world country (no I don't like that term much but hey), using the best components (some probably vintage and virtually unobtanium), hand built to the highest standards. Pedigree of the company aside and maybe that's not even an unfair markup.
It's not on their website, may it's even a one off. It certainly wasn't built for the general market and it certainly wasn't built for me, so personally I'm not going to get upset about it. I don't think average price of Moog is unreasonable considering what you're getting, compare it with the Linnstrument, or for that matter a Harpejji, or any other number of handcrafted instruments. OK so not cheap, Chinese manufactured to just about acceptable standards cheap, but not unreasonable. I think there is a place in the world for that.
Loopop shows us how:
tbh I'm avoiding modular. More drawn to the 0-Coast than this one, but even that's risky. I can see it leading to a small case with a Morphagene and a few other bits and pieces.
Thanks, I didn’t know about the cards! And Morphagene is indeed a gateway drug.
If you want a semi-modular that doesn’t get you hooked on eurorack, Plumbutter is a good choice.
Reading now.
At the beach, the drummer Tommy Lee carries a boogey board, and juts his chin, while Pamela Anderson looks inwards with blonde hair unfurled over her breasts and panty-line. Over and behind the coupling, are the black-light doping patterns for three silicon chips used in the drum-machine. 4015 is the ocean in the background, that says “DIMENSIONS MAY DIFFER, CONTACT YOUR SALES OFFICE”.
http://ciat-lonbarde.net/plumbutter/
It’s not unreasonable at all. A Moog 55 retailed for USD 11,900 in 1976. That comes to around 55,200 today.
Incidentally, 55k is on the lower end of what a top-line concert violinist will shell out for her instrument.
Moog price List 1976:
https://modularsynthesis.com/moog/Moog Modular Price List 1976.pdf
Who is the type of guy to buy this? Old nostalgic millionnaire?
I’d buy it in a second if I had the coin to drop. You know it sounds amazing.
Hans Zimmer.
Rob Papen does a sound comparison here between the original MS-20, the K2 and the Korg mini:
And Junkie XL (but he is a great guy)
Who knows who buys these, I'd be hoping they'd go to either a successful studio or an artist who is really getting the most out of them but maybe some end up as some rich persons toy, gathering dust. Shame, but that's Moogs decision to put them on the open market and theirs to make.
I'd love to know the actual base value of the components and the hours that went into to putting them together, I doubt that's a trivial cost but I'm not going to argue our Moog modular here is anything other than nuts expensive. It's a show piece and if someone buys it then Moog priced it right from their point of view.
On the subject of research and development, yeah it's old tech but here's a question. I haven't formed an opinion so it's an open question. Is there a point at which R&D gets paid off? I don't know whether Roger Linn priced that in. Will he drop the price after a certain number of sales have been made because that has been paid off?
I'm pretty sure he didn't start the project to make a ton of money so it wouldn't surprise me if the margins are modest. He could of sent it off to be manufactured in Shenzen, comprimised on materials, knocked them out for 200, 300 bucks, maybe. Would be selling a lot more and maybe getting a better financial return. I'd of bought one by now. That's partly one of my points. He chose local manufacturers and fair play to him, its probably cost him in lower sales figures, but his reasoning is honourable.
Ah, right. That sounds much better. I am looking for an MS20ic right now. Missed out on getting one for £100 due to my auction sniper resetting. Only happens once every 18 months apparently. I guess it just wasn't to be. Was thinking that I could try the MS20ic out with the iMS or the MS20 in the Korg synth collection. If it works as well as the K2 then I would probably sell the K2 and have a decent MIDI controller as well.
The comparison is a great idea. Think I'll see if there's any interest from Youtube people.
Indeed, from a technical point of view, I’d personally consider the technologies that simulate circuits down to the component behaviour to be as valid a reconstruction as using actual components (most of which these days would be more modern, more uniformly manufactured equivalents anyway).
He made a video about his modular wall, very interesting
Not sure if I'm reading you both right here but I wonder if you have the knowledge to comment on something for me? I was watching a video on a company who refurbish old synths and they were saying that the ridiculous prices that they have pushed these synths up to was not just because they were sold for ridiculous prices now (go figure) but because the original components were becoming harder and harder to find. They also said, with a completely straight face, that some of these component manufacturers take a lot of tracking down. Like they were made by a tribe of pygmies in the far Amazon rain forest.
My question is, does the sound of these old synths come partly from their components? Like, say, a Juno 106? Would that sound be ruined if it was synthesised by a different manufacturers components? By, God forbid, components made yesterday, in Cleckhuddersfax
Thank you!
That’s a tricky question. I’d say that if equivalent transistors are found, and biasing resistors etc are adjusted to accommodate (if needed, most of the time probably not needed, the original values will still work) then the circuit is performing exactly the same function in the same way. People in electronics often do that, swap out a part with another available part if they’re functionally equivalent. It’s commonplace.
There’s another kind of person who might be described differently who wants to live in the past and will likely invent reasons why one type of component is “not authentic” compared to a modern available equivalent. I’d view this dubiously. The differences between a batch of transistors of one type from the 70s is more likely of a wider variance than a batch of a different yet equivalent transistors available today.
When I rebuilt my ARP 2600’s 4019 VCA module, I selected modern transistors that were basically the same spec as the original transistors, and the circuit is fine. The originals were nothing special, just general purpose NPN and PNP transistors of the day, and today’s general purpose ones do the same job in the same way without even changing any resistor values at all. It works fine. In fact I was able to find matched pairs relatively easily within the bag of 50 of each transistor type I ordered, as today’s transistors are a lot more consistent in manufacture. If I were more confident in surface-mount soldering, I’d have made the circuit using transistor-pair chips, as they’re guaranteed to be virtually identical and they’re in the same package, so they’re thermally bonded and matched from the beginning (I believe this is the approach the Behringer 2600 uses, and I’d approve of that).
When I rebuilt my ARP 2600’s 4019 VCA module
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Thanks for your view, @u0421793. Very helpful.
The Behringer Odyssey is supposed to be quite a decent clone, for the money. I don't suppose you've bothered comparing your heavenly smelling, juicy, brightly coloured, awesome tasting orange with that particular apple, have you?
This is a few years ago when I had one of the test modules on breadboard. I tested it by simulating the surrounding circuitry using off-board pots. It wasn’t quite trimmed up correctly at this point. The one I have in there now is correct and does the job well.
Really enjoyed that, thanks. It was also quite helpful to give some context around the question I asked about replacing components.
Does your knowledge of electronics help you work out patches on the ARP? How long have you had yours? Was it working fine when you got it?
It was partially functional when I got it, in the late 90s, then I got married, and it got put away. It was only a few years ago I took it down and rebuilt the bits that didn’t work. The VCA was dead, S+H clock was dead, the envelopes were knackered, the output amps were incredibly noisy and sporadic and uneven, some of the voltage processors were strange. In retrospect it was almost as if the entire right half of it had received a glass of beer (or some liquid) at some stage in earlier life. What I did was to replace some of the op-amps (with more modern TL081 (well, they’re not that modern, but they’re a bit later than the originals)) which helped. I progressed through eventually finding most occurrences of the original op amps of a certain manufacturer, it seems they’d all gone dead. The VCA was a potted one, I tried cutting it apart but it was solid epoxy (a year later and they changed to potting them partially in silicon, which I could’ve picked apart). So having destroyed the original VCA (which was dead, so no big loss) I rebuilt it on veroboard. Managed to whittle down the layout over a period of a year to about the same size as the original module, and keep it one-sided veroboard, and get the transistor pairs near enough each other to be thermally bonded with some bits of copper and glue.
Is it in fully working order now?
It’s beautiful system actually. And one thing about Moog they really do make incredible sounding, and well built gear.
For some thing thats maybe not a massive both price and size wise there’s also Aion Modular. Copies of vintage Moog designs but in eurorack format (3U), with same aesthetics.
Must have ponytail (sorry inside Muffs joke).
Maybe if Behringer built it. If it uses the og parts, the cost is way over $100. The fixed filter module alone is over $100 in parts.