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Hardware grooveboxes vs ipad

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  • @supadom I think the major perceived difference is the existence of tactile knobs, buttons and faders versus a touch screen only plus available I/O like hardware MIDI ports and audio inputs & outputs.

    Workflow is usually much less obvious on hardware than in iOS apps and needs more practice.

    Clock sync works just as well if you choose the right apps like Groove Rider, Gadget, Beatmaker 3, Midi Link Sync etc.

    If I want the iPad to feel more like hardware, I can slide it into the iTrack Dock or the Alesis IO Dock for example.

    To me, it looks like the hardware vs software debate started decades ago, when computers ran mostly mouse-operated software that was indeed quite unintuitive to use compared to hardware boxes. With iOS music apps, a lot has changed though, and the arguments for getting hardware are now rather based on different features and workflow that some hardware offers compared to some iOS apps.
    I also think that paying a lot of money for a hardware box and having tactile controls can be a motivator to use software that people generally wouldn't accept on an iPad.
    Imagine an Octatrack 2 with exactly the same user interface on an iPad.
    I believe that people would put it off as too convoluted and unintuitive to use.
    Some already say that about Groove Rider which is a simple app in comparison 😅

  • edited June 2020

    I prefer hardware grooveboxes. Currently have mpc live. I agree with what someone said about ipad feeling like you are on the other side of the window, while hardware feels like you actually interact with something real and tangible. Another issue is stability of many apps, especially some complex apps, which often also easily get pretty fiddly. Adding midi controllers to ipad naturally helps to make the whole thing more hands on, but even if you build a whole setup with midi controllers that would give you all the tactile controls of a hardware groovebox, it still gets more fiddly much easier and forcing you to focus on doing extra things with the touch screen.

    But as a bonus something like bm3 with some AU plugins is much more capable than mpc live for example, but it is also less stable and less hands on even if you add tons of controllers.

    Which one is better? Well it depends on your priorities, i can definitely see some folks choosing bm3 for example over any MPC. But personally i lean on the side of hardware. If bm3 was rock solid and you could map every single button on the whole app to controllers, then i would likely sell my mpc and start using bm3 instead. Or maybe if some uber groovebox app with dedicated midi controller were released, i would get into it likely. Or if maschine were ported and would be fully functional on ios, i would likely get some cheap mascine mki and start using it instead.

    My current use of ipad is mostly synths through AUM for effects and for recording. AUM has been as stable as my MPC live, which is essential imo as i easily lose interest and inspiration when encountering some bugs or problems with the tools and get annoyed if i lose something and need to do it again. The whole thing just turns from pleasurable hobby stuff to something thats so fucking annoying, but needs to be done because of some fucking bug shit and often i just stop doing the whole thing if this happens

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