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How to learn modular synth?

joegrant413joegrant413
edited March 2014 in General App Discussion

I got plenty of synth apps -- ims20, tc11, Nave, ivcs3 -- but still limit myself to mostly just the presets. Frankly every time I look at the modular patch features I get intimidated by the learning curve.

Any tips or tutorials that you folks would recommend?

Thanks,

  • Joe

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  • kgmessierkgmessier
    edited March 2014

    Here's one by Tim Webb from his excellent blog, Discchord:

    http://discchord.com/blog/2013/9/6/tutorial-intro-to-modular.html

    Good luck!

  • fjcblancofjcblanco
    edited March 2014

    Hi. IMHO, a good point of start (I linked twice, but there is a playlist):

    Take it easy...

  • fjcblancofjcblanco

    ...and of course, everything from Simon Cann (ebooks included):

  • OmnilimbOOmnilimbO

    A firm grasp on the fundamentals of synthesis will help greatly, with both closed and modular synth systems. There are many many books and videos on synthesis, and you should most certainly get some, but a nice free primer that breaks down the basics into bite sized pieces is this Sound On Sound series of articles called Synth Secrets. Reading through them should give you a solid understanding of the core elements of almost any synth, and that knowledge will give you a firm synthesis foundation and confidence to dive into all those knobs and sliders to create your own sound.

    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/allsynthsecrets.htm

    There is a good deal of helpful information here, but once you have that all down, there is always more to learn and experiment with. Above all, have fun.

  • joegrant413joegrant413

    Thanks

  • OmnilimbOOmnilimbO

    Oh, and start from the bottom of that list, with "Part 1: What's In A Sound?"
    Cheers.

  • GovernorSilverGovernorSilver

    Maybe this thread should be a sticky. :)

  • otem_rellikotem_rellik
    edited March 2014

    I was a bit intimidated by modular at first but I took some time and learned a lot and it is now one of my favorites. I have an awesome drone patch all controlled by this custom midi controller I built (it now has labels for all the knobs).

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  • supadomsupadom

    Neat!

  • RJBRJB

    There is a Windows program called Syntorial which is a complete course on modular synthesis. A little pricey, $129 but it's excellent. Www.syntorial.com

  • joegrant413joegrant413

    FYI, I just got the free Modular app.

  • GovernorSilverGovernorSilver
    edited March 2014

    That's my strategy too - learn modular synth patching with the free app and Tim Webb's tutorials, then start applying the concepts to other modular apps like iVCS3, Jasuto, etc.

  • ShawnLeonhardtShawnLeonhardt

    Yes... The modular app is amazing. It is worth the money to but the rest. It really has taught me tons. And I use it on my iPhone. A little difficult to make connections, but really educational. I feel like this app is truly undervalued among people. Probably because most never move past presets.

  • Phil999Phil999

    there are other reasons. One of them is the sound. Modular app does not even come close to the sound of a modular synth. On the other hand, it's educational factor is high. To learn how to connect modules, to create patches, it's very good. To make music with it ... not really. For music I recommend Audulus, both as a modular synth and as an effect box.

  • GovernorSilverGovernorSilver
    edited March 2014

    If you have Caustic, the dev has a modular patching tutorial for the modular synth in Caustic. Just another thing to look at.

    Since you (the OP) already have iVCS3, Tim Webb's iVCS3 tutorial builds on top of his Pulse Code Modular tutorial.

  • joegrant413joegrant413

    Cool. I have the free version of Caustic on Android.

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  • dubathonicdubathonic

    i just pinged the Syntorial designers about a version for iPad. They told me they were planning to drop one in early 2015.

  • mkell424mkell424

    Great discussion. I'm also new to modular and I'm thinking about picking up one of two apps. Audulus Modular vs SunVox: which is easier to use for beginners? The user interface is also important.

  • dwarmandwarman

    Of the three, Modular. Audulus and Sunvox have really deep rabbit holes to swallow you up, as a beginner. There's also this new one Modal Pro, but it may also have some dangerous depths.

  • thindsthinds
    edited November 2014

    Don't go past Jasuto either @mkell424, that one is pretty easy to get instant results from.

    Edit: needs AB update still though.

  • paradiddleparadiddle
    edited November 2014

    Some ios synths like modular/ims20 are control voltage based whereas others offer modular routing like thor/z3ta/nave. They are quite different. Sunvox isn't a synth per se. It only offers modular routing between devices. Like send a guitar to a delay and out the speakers. Sort of like tabletop.

  • paradiddleparadiddle

    Jasuto is great btw. Truly unique modular on ios.

  • mkell424mkell424

    Thanks for the advice guys. I'm going to purchase Jasuto. And good news thinds. They must have just added AB support because it's listed in the description on the App Store. Also they've bundled all of the previous IAP and are selling it for $4.99.

    https://appsto.re/us/AbMUu.i

  • StormJH1StormJH1

    @paradiddle said:

    Jasuto is great btw. Truly unique modular on ios.

    I think Jasuto is really cool, but I have trouble figuring out even how to get sounds out of the instruments. 90% of that is my own ignorance, yes, but I'm no less ignorant using SunVox, and I do much better there getting it hooked up to MIDI, etc.

  • mkell424mkell424

    I got Jasuto. Great program, however I have iOS 8 and unfortunately it gave me an error message when I tried AB. Also the keyboard(keys) doesn't work. It was last updated in July so the developer probably is working on the iOS8 version now.

  • mkell424mkell424

    I think Jasuto is really cool, but I have trouble figuring out even how to get sounds out of the instruments.

    Me too. I hit keys and the keyboard comes up but it won't make a sound.

  • thindsthinds

    Open one of the many demo patches to start with. File>Open>. There are some brilliant examples to build on there. As I said in my earlier post it is waiting on an AB update. No idea when this is coming and unfortunately their forum is not really attended to. However, the developers, Chris & Amanda have been updating since the app was released back in 2009, so I have absolutely no doubt it will get done.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    Hey, at least they're dating...

  • thindsthinds

    Worse than that, they're married I think.

  • mkell424mkell424
    edited November 2014

    Thanks thinds. I checked out the demos. A quick question is how do you play them? I noticed the keys module on some of them. It brings up a keyboard but it doesn't work. Thanks.

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