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LK - for Ableton Live & Midi by Imaginando - AUv3 Clip Launcher Finally Available in AUM!!

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  • SergiuSergiu

    Yes, that’s great!

  • branisbranis

    Here is an idea how to make the central part of the UI bigger, but also keeping the current layout. So, the idea is to replace the bottom hamburger button with a "hide header and footer" button. Engaging the button will hide some UI elements until the button is pressed again. I made a few mock-ups to demonstrate the idea.

    This is the button in OFF state in the Matrix screen:

    ON state in Matrix (the Stop, Rec and Select buttons are smaller in height too):

    ON state in the MIDI editor screen:

    Any thoughts?

  • clowmclowm

    @sinosoidal said:

    @clowm said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @clowm said:
    @sinosoidal I’m having trouble to correctly record pitchbend messages in LK AUv3 on iPhone. It records far too less events than was being sent.

    What is your grid quantization value?

    I'm recording into new clip with Rec Quant set to None.
    I just tried to record into empty clip with a "snap to grid" setting turned off — same result.

    Rec Quantization setting on status bar will only affect notes recording.

    There is a grid quantization setting on the clip composer status bar. Try to set it to 1/32 or to none and see if the results are different.

    Ok, I tried, (also tried different midi keyboards) but results are the same.

  • WhiteWhite

    @branis said:
    Here is an idea how to make the central part of the UI bigger, but also keeping the current layout. So, the idea is to replace the bottom hamburger button with a "hide header and footer" button. Engaging the button will hide some UI elements until the button is pressed again. I made a few mock-ups to demonstrate the idea.

    This is the button in OFF state in the Matrix screen:

    ON state in Matrix (the Stop, Rec and Select buttons are smaller in height too):

    ON state in the MIDI editor screen:

    Any thoughts?

    I think it looks very good, I would like to have that option 😊👍

    But I would like to have the Shift button visible in both states, because it is an important part of the editing tools in the clip view and in the piano roll

  • clowmclowm

    @branis said:
    Here is an idea how to make the central part of the UI bigger, but also keeping the current layout. So, the idea is to replace the bottom hamburger button with a "hide header and footer" button. Engaging the button will hide some UI elements until the button is pressed again. I made a few mock-ups to demonstrate the idea.

    This is the button in OFF state in the Matrix screen:

    ON state in Matrix (the Stop, Rec and Select buttons are smaller in height too):

    ON state in the MIDI editor screen:

    Any thoughts?

    Great, but footer has some crucial buttons, so I would hide only header

  • rs2000rs2000
    edited January 2021

    @Sergiu said:
    Anyone using the Akai apc mini with Lk? for triggering the clips?

    @sinosoidal said:

    @Sergiu said:
    How’s the mapping integration? Can I recall as preset , once the pads are mapped?> @sinosoidal said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Anyone using the Akai apc mini with Lk? for triggering the clips?

    We have one in the office. Any particular question about it?

    You just need to connect the controller. It will automatically reflect the clip grid on the pads. Is that you are looking for?

    Wow, that's cool - but it does not work correctly. My APC Mini works with other apps but connected to LK, it's acting weird. Sometimes it takes two or three button presses until LEDs are illuminated, some pads light up where there's no clip and vice versa, the LEDs even light up and go off while LK is stopped.
    iPad 6, iOS 13.7.
    There is no other MIDI app open in the background. I'm using the latest LK beta.

    Edit: Sent you a PM with video.

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @branis said:
    Here is an idea how to make the central part of the UI bigger, but also keeping the current layout. So, the idea is to replace the bottom hamburger button with a "hide header and footer" button. Engaging the button will hide some UI elements until the button is pressed again. I made a few mock-ups to demonstrate the idea.

    This is the button in OFF state in the Matrix screen:

    ON state in Matrix (the Stop, Rec and Select buttons are smaller in height too):

    ON state in the MIDI editor screen:

    Any thoughts?

    I will be very straighforward. This is something that I don't like. I would like to better understand the problem to find a solution:

    • is lacking of working space because of the status bar, plus the AUM plugin window bar?
    • is the splitview that devides the grid from the composer and the way we toggle between them?
  • branisbranis

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    Here is an idea how to make the central part of the UI bigger, but also keeping the current layout. So, the idea is to replace the bottom hamburger button with a "hide header and footer" button. Engaging the button will hide some UI elements until the button is pressed again. I made a few mock-ups to demonstrate the idea.

    This is the button in OFF state in the Matrix screen:

    ON state in Matrix (the Stop, Rec and Select buttons are smaller in height too):

    ON state in the MIDI editor screen:

    Any thoughts?

    I will be very straighforward. This is something that I don't like. I would like to better understand the problem to find a solution:

    • is lacking of working space because of the status bar, plus the AUM plugin window bar?
    • is the splitview that devides the grid from the composer and the way we toggle between them?

    It's the first one for me. When I am in AUM, the plugin window bar plus the transport section and the AUM bar at the bottom are cramping up the working area and I often wish I had more space where it matters. I don't feel claustrophobic with the standalone. That's why I thought a toggle could be a solution when you feel a need for more space, e.g. when you are editing a clip.

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal
    edited January 2021

    @branis said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    Here is an idea how to make the central part of the UI bigger, but also keeping the current layout. So, the idea is to replace the bottom hamburger button with a "hide header and footer" button. Engaging the button will hide some UI elements until the button is pressed again. I made a few mock-ups to demonstrate the idea.

    This is the button in OFF state in the Matrix screen:

    ON state in Matrix (the Stop, Rec and Select buttons are smaller in height too):

    ON state in the MIDI editor screen:

    Any thoughts?

    I will be very straighforward. This is something that I don't like. I would like to better understand the problem to find a solution:

    • is lacking of working space because of the status bar, plus the AUM plugin window bar?
    • is the splitview that devides the grid from the composer and the way we toggle between them?

    It's the first one for me. When I am in AUM, the plugin window bar plus the transport section and the AUM bar at the bottom are cramping up the working area and I often wish I had more space where it matters. I don't feel claustrophobic with the standalone. That's why I thought a toggle could be a solution when you feel a need for more space, e.g. when you are editing a clip.

    Someone mentioned here before that it would be cool to have something like a full screen mode.

    If there was something like this that could make the top and left side bar of LK to disappear, would that help?

  • SergiuSergiu

    Is there a way to make it more visually evident the clip that is selected? When not engaged

  • SergiuSergiu

    Apc mini works great...I have solid green when engaged and yellow when not engaged. Bottom round pad stops the entire row. Thanks!

  • branisbranis

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    Here is an idea how to make the central part of the UI bigger, but also keeping the current layout. So, the idea is to replace the bottom hamburger button with a "hide header and footer" button. Engaging the button will hide some UI elements until the button is pressed again. I made a few mock-ups to demonstrate the idea.

    This is the button in OFF state in the Matrix screen:

    ON state in Matrix (the Stop, Rec and Select buttons are smaller in height too):

    ON state in the MIDI editor screen:

    Any thoughts?

    I will be very straighforward. This is something that I don't like. I would like to better understand the problem to find a solution:

    • is lacking of working space because of the status bar, plus the AUM plugin window bar?
    • is the splitview that devides the grid from the composer and the way we toggle between them?

    It's the first one for me. When I am in AUM, the plugin window bar plus the transport section and the AUM bar at the bottom are cramping up the working area and I often wish I had more space where it matters. I don't feel claustrophobic with the standalone. That's why I thought a toggle could be a solution when you feel a need for more space, e.g. when you are editing a clip.

    Someone mentioned here before that it would be cool to have something like a full screen mode.

    If there was something like this that could make the top and left side bar of LK to disappear, would that help?

    I believe it would. Any way of getting more space would be welcome.

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @branis said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    Here is an idea how to make the central part of the UI bigger, but also keeping the current layout. So, the idea is to replace the bottom hamburger button with a "hide header and footer" button. Engaging the button will hide some UI elements until the button is pressed again. I made a few mock-ups to demonstrate the idea.

    This is the button in OFF state in the Matrix screen:

    ON state in Matrix (the Stop, Rec and Select buttons are smaller in height too):

    ON state in the MIDI editor screen:

    Any thoughts?

    I will be very straighforward. This is something that I don't like. I would like to better understand the problem to find a solution:

    • is lacking of working space because of the status bar, plus the AUM plugin window bar?
    • is the splitview that devides the grid from the composer and the way we toggle between them?

    It's the first one for me. When I am in AUM, the plugin window bar plus the transport section and the AUM bar at the bottom are cramping up the working area and I often wish I had more space where it matters. I don't feel claustrophobic with the standalone. That's why I thought a toggle could be a solution when you feel a need for more space, e.g. when you are editing a clip.

    Someone mentioned here before that it would be cool to have something like a full screen mode.

    If there was something like this that could make the top and left side bar of LK to disappear, would that help?

    I believe it would. Any way of getting more space would be welcome.

    Ok, we will see what we can do! :blush:

  • aratxtraratxtr

    I am quite a newbie in working with LK.. after reading the online manual I cannot find the duplicate and Q button in the composer that are mentioned there. Have they gotten replaced or obsolet?

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @aratxtr said:
    I am quite a newbie in working with LK.. after reading the online manual I cannot find the duplicate and Q button in the composer that are mentioned there. Have they gotten replaced or obsolet?

    Those functions have been moved to NOTE TOOLS, subpanel of clip composer inspector panel. To open the inspector tap on the (i) icon located in the top right side of clip composer panel.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    Here is an idea how to make the central part of the UI bigger, but also keeping the current layout. So, the idea is to replace the bottom hamburger button with a "hide header and footer" button. Engaging the button will hide some UI elements until the button is pressed again. I made a few mock-ups to demonstrate the idea.

    This is the button in OFF state in the Matrix screen:

    ON state in Matrix (the Stop, Rec and Select buttons are smaller in height too):

    ON state in the MIDI editor screen:

    Any thoughts?

    I will be very straighforward. This is something that I don't like. I would like to better understand the problem to find a solution:

    • is lacking of working space because of the status bar, plus the AUM plugin window bar?
    • is the splitview that devides the grid from the composer and the way we toggle between them?

    It's the first one for me. When I am in AUM, the plugin window bar plus the transport section and the AUM bar at the bottom are cramping up the working area and I often wish I had more space where it matters. I don't feel claustrophobic with the standalone. That's why I thought a toggle could be a solution when you feel a need for more space, e.g. when you are editing a clip.

    Someone mentioned here before that it would be cool to have something like a full screen mode.

    If there was something like this that could make the top and left side bar of LK to disappear, would that help?

    I believe it would. Any way of getting more space would be welcome.

    Ok, we will see what we can do! :blush:

    It would also be super helpful in the piano roll to have access to the basic notes editing tools without needing to open clip properties. Maybe there is a way and I am missing it.

  • aratxtraratxtr

    @sinosoidal said:

    @aratxtr said:
    I am quite a newbie in working with LK.. after reading the online manual I cannot find the duplicate and Q button in the composer that are mentioned there. Have they gotten replaced or obsolet?

    Those functions have been moved to NOTE TOOLS, subpanel of clip composer inspector panel. To open the inspector tap on the (i) icon located in the top right side of clip composer panel.

    Thanks! Should have found that by myself...

  • skratskrat
    edited January 2021

    @sinosoidal said:
    Someone mentioned here before that it would be cool to have something like a full screen mode.

    If there was something like this that could make the top and left side bar of LK to disappear, would that help?

    Definitely hiding top and left bar would help a lot to de-clutter LK Matrix. I personally want to use only the Matrix, other modules are fine but I have no need to use them (and there’s a lot of alternatives in iOS AUs, unlike Matrix which is currently one of a kind). So again, the whole left bar is of no use for me, except of settings.

    The top bar I haven’t actually touched since the AU is synced with host - in virtually every host you have transport buttons always visible so now I don’t need to use them. Project saving is actually more annyoing to accidentally tap so I’d prefer hiding them under some menu. Anyway, using as AU I don’t have the need to save in LK separately, it is saved within the project inside AU host. The same with switchin to Ableton mode which I don’t even use (as probably 99% of people using LK Matrix as AU on iOS). Clock sync - again I believe vast majority of people using AU wants to sync with the host, I don’t even see a use case where you’d like to be out of sync. Record and trigger quantization is something I don’t personally change (1 bar and 1/16 is OK for me) but I can see other people may want to change it. Still, it’s not a thing you want to change back and forth very often, so hiding it under menu is OK. Maybe recording quantization could be set per clip + setting default quantization under menu (I can imagine wanting drums to be precisely timed, but e.g. keyboard to be more “human” without quantization). The only thing remaining is pitch which I never used and not 100% sure if it’s a micropitch setting? If so, this kind of things are usually also burried under menu in synths and so.

    So I believe all the top bar options are OK to hide in AU. Of course, keep the options available under menu, or make the bar toggleable (which would be probably easier to implement) is also nice. I’d be also welcome an option to hide the left bar and keep just one small icon in left bottom corner to toggle between fullscreen and regular mode.

    Bottom bar is different story, there are too many useful buttons that it’d be hard to hide it without creating more confusion. Also, if you’d remove also bottom bar, then you can’t position the icon to hide both left and top bar without interfering with other parts of GUI (or creating “empty” bars, which misses the point of making using of screen real estate).

    TLDR: The simplest solution seems to be to put the button to toggle between fullcreen/normal mode to bottom left corner, replacing the redundant menu icon and making it a part of bottom row instead of a left bar, so it’ll be always visible.

  • WhiteWhite

    @sinosoidal

    Thanks for the update.

    AUM and LK are my most used apps, I mostly use the MATRIX module. The piano roll editor is one of the best I have used, it is really easy to use and the note tools are very good 😊

    My 2021 wishes for LK are:

    • Ability to show ghost notes from another clip in the piano roll editor.
    • Rearrange tracks/scenes using Shift drag and drop (in the same way that it is possible to copy clips/notes using Shift drag and drop). I think this is more in the spirit of the touch interface design than opening a menu to select a function. Example: If I have 10 scenes and I add a new scene, which I want to be the first scene in my song, then I have to tap on the menu for the new scene and tap "Move up" 10 times. If I could just hold Shift and drag and drop the new scene up to be the first scene, it would be a lot easier. (I know you mentioned, that it's not as easy to code, than coding the copy clips/notes using drag/drop, but it would be really nice to be able to do it the same with tracks and scenes)
    • A video tutorial for Chorder and the other modules in LK. I have not yet figured out how to configure the chords in the Chorder module. Example: How do I set it up to show the chords in the C Major scale and rearrange the order of the chords?
  • fattigmanfattigman

    @sinosoidal I’ll buy the novation launchpad pro mk3. It’s not listed as a compatible controller. Will you support it? Thanks.

  • dobbsdobbs
    edited January 2021

    It would be really cool if clips could send an action on start and stop. You could use that for example to send light on/off messages to controllers that are not yet supported.
    Other uses would be to change presets or enable/disable effects that shall only be enabled when the clip is running, or start/stop other sequencers.

    @White said:
    I have not yet figured out how to configure the chords in the Chorder module. Example: How do I set it up to show the chords in the C Major scale and rearrange the order of the chords?

    That's just not possible yet. Sadly the way the chords are ordered now makes it pretty useless to me. If they were at least ordered chromatically that would be a big help.

    it is possible to copy clips/notes using Shift drag and drop

    that's really cool, I didn't know that :)

  • sambosambo

    @sinosoidal: really impressed with how Matrix is now working - has become my go to midi editor in AUM. Wondering if you could make a small update to the Controller page to allow for assigning colours to the faders - makes it easier to see at a glance which fader is associated with which instrument...

    Also if possible stick the bank select buttons along the top menu bar...

  • tpjtpj

    Is there any way to disable midi thru in LK while recording ?
    When recording notes/CC from Animoog in a sequencer you get the obvious midi loop when animoog is sending and receiving the same CC messages when playing from Animoog UI.
    This doesnt happen in Xequence or in Photon which can disable midi thru while recording.
    Any idea how to make this work in LK?

    Thanks!

  • dobbsdobbs

    worst case scenario: use one animoog muted to control another animoog :D

  • wimwim
    edited January 2021

    @tpj said:
    Is there any way to disable midi thru in LK while recording ?
    When recording notes/CC from Animoog in a sequencer you get the obvious midi loop when animoog is sending and receiving the same CC messages when playing from Animoog UI.
    This doesnt happen in Xequence or in Photon which can disable midi thru while recording.
    Any idea how to make this work in LK?

    Thanks!

    Standalone or in a host? Which host. You have control over both the input and output destination in LK, and also in hosts. Some details of your setup would be helpful is pinpointing a solution. I'm sure there is one.

  • SergiuSergiu

    Is there a Swing function inside Lk? Is it for the entire project or each clip can have its own swing setting?

  • SergiuSergiu

    Also, is it possible to use the melodic scale with an external midi keyboard? I tried rosetta scaler, but i cannot route it inside lk

  • wimwim

    @Sergiu said:
    Also, is it possible to use the melodic scale with an external midi keyboard? I tried rosetta scaler, but i cannot route it inside lk

    You should be able to. Route keyboard to scaler, then scaler to LK. I don't see any reason why that wouldn't work.

  • wimwim
    edited January 2021

    @Sergiu said:
    Is there a Swing function inside Lk? Is it for the entire project or each clip can have its own swing setting?

    Each clip has its own swing setting. Humanize too.

  • SergiuSergiu

    Thank Wim...yes but i get double note...must be lk directly midi linked to aum..or?...its just on playback..when recording ....everything is good> @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Also, is it possible to use the melodic scale with an external midi keyboard? I tried rosetta scaler, but i cannot route it inside lk

    You should be able to. Route keyboard to scaler, then scaler to LK. I don't see any reason why that wouldn't work.

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