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The drift in midi notes make an exported Midi file... unusable... Developer recently promised an update..
I did some midi recording into Drambo... and was stunned.. it captured a ‘mirror’ of the sources... Wishing for midi export... but the potential seems way more powerful than anything available today...
LK doesn't work for me so I'm still using Atom. With LK I get crazy DSP spikes and no sound. If it gets fixed, great, but at the moment it is literally unusable on my ipad pro 2018.
Yea, once I do that it feels pretty much like a daw. Create a Template with 4 Atoms and load it up to start a new session.
There’s a second reason I started doing that... if I had one/two instances of Atom doing whatever, and I worked on a song i would eventually need to add another instance or 2 of Atom, but when I loaded more instances of Atom the GUI was all out of whack and unusable about 66% of the time. So to avoid having trouble with multiple instances of Atom, I just loaded up a bunch in the very beginning and that GUI issue stopped.
Huh, I knew it recorded midi in but haven’t tried it yet. To be honest I bought Drambo the second it came out but have barely touched it. This is only because I’m a total beginner with modular stuff, and I really need some time to dig in and understand it all, which I’ve been putting off. Ill get there...
If somebody buys an app for what it could be, rather than what it is advertised and sold as, that isn't trust, its stupidity.
Done + done.. thanks for the nudge.. 👍 now I’m ready.. just have to remember to load it when I start something.. that’ll be the tricky part..
Cool. Happy to help.
LK + AUM = “Pocket Ableton”
No it's not, at least not necessarily, but I'm not in the mood for an argument. You could really tone down the inflammatory vibe you often have in your comments by the way, as others have mentioned here many times. It comes across as very judgemental and arrogant.
Maybe. If it had innovation
Maby if was easy to use it as a midi real time looper
The reason I bought it was simply because it was an AUV3 Piano Roll, something I think most iOS music makers really needed. What’s crazy to me, and I know this has been discussed in other threads, is there are so few options in the AUv3 midi piano roll department, something with midi in, midi out, import, export, multi-channel midi, etc. it’s a key component in the Modular DAW workflow, but no one has made something with all of that in one. I use several apps, IAA (Musk Midi Player) and AUV3 (Atom) and standalone (Xequence 2) to complete all those functions, when it feels like there should be a good all in one AUv3 midi solution. I know there is photon AU, but don’t have that one, since I’ve heard mixed things. It feels like Atom is the closest with a couple updates. Xequence 2 is great, but it feels like a massive addition to my session as opposed to an instance of a lightweight AUv3 app. Especially if I only need 1-3 midi tracks or so.
2 quick things, I’m talking in AUM...
Remember to change name of the project/folder when saving, if using a template.
I just kind of realized that working off that template has one small flaw. When you save the new session, over top of the template you don’t get all the current date and time info that’s usually added at the end of project name. Kind of annoying but I just add the date at the end.
@Poppadocrock Thanks for the heads up..
1. Already used to doing that with other templates..
2. Good to know.. I'm usually going by the project name anyway..
Cool. Cheers.
No.
I might buy LK when it’s no longer a beta product.
And I will buy Xequence AUv3 if it ever comes out.
I would still buy it. To me there's nothing less intrusive for grabbing a quick idea when just noodling in AB or AUM. Like grabbing a post-it note vs. making a detailed entry in a notes database. Or (back when we had such things) playing a quick guitar idea into a cassette recorder vs. setting up with a DAW to record.
If I was trying to use it to build complete pieces or performances it would be different. I'm pushing that toward Zenbeats these days as I don't need to be distracted with making a bunch of things work together and can get most of the way toward the end result there.
This is pretty much how I feel exactly. It is SO fast getting things going, and I rely on it in every AUM session. But it's not easy to edit in the piano roll. No loop brace? It feels both essential and abandoned somehow.
I don't get this question. Atom debuted doing something that no one did in that way at the time. LK (which actually existed first but just as an Ableton Controller) added MIDI-out with clip/scene... and now AU3.
Sooooooooooo.... would I buy Atom again... now??
In my setup, Drambo does the work of both these apps, so if in an alternate universe where LK and/or Atom came after, why in tarnations would I buy them?
Apps improve (or not) and then something else comes with an improvement of the previous. Just like everything else. Would you ask, "Would you buy the iPad Gen1 again?"
No disrespect but I genuinely do not get the question, @dermichl .
One thing is sure...
Atom is still capable of generating a lot of discussion over a year after the last update.
I sure hope @blueveek is doing well, and staying healthy and happy.
I think the question was simply a way of asking whether it's still worthy of purchase with the other options that are now available.
In answer to your puzzlement over why one would buy Atom when Drambo exists? I would reach for Atom over Drambo 90% of the time to capture a quick idea in AUM. Drambo requires more setup, and isn't great for quick edits like you can do in the Atom piano roll.
I'm jamming along grabbing different apps and FX, and an idea worth keeping comes out of my fingers. I grab Atom, lay the idea down, maybe tweak a few mistakes. Done. This vs. grabbing Drambo, selecting a template, setting up a midi-out, recording, laboriously editing using the step sequencer, getting distracted by all the neat goodies like cycle conditions, p-locks, etc...
So, still yes. I would still buy Atom. Don't get me wrong. Drambo is cool and one of the top apps of all time, but it's not the last word for everything and everyone.
You seem to be implying that the developer pulled a fast one by making the ONE AU that everyone requested, and then constantly added improvements (like the brilliant ability to see shadow clips of other instances in any given instance). All this for $8.99.
Of course, it turns out that he used architecture (I'm not a coder, obviously) that can't be updated, so we're stuck where we are.
I definitely wish it would be updated, and I'd love to be able to launch my Atom clips. But I have absolutely got my $9 worth.
Now if someone could tell me how I could send the midi from my Atom clips to either Drambo or LK....
Atom is very light on ressources, setup is as fast as it can be in a modular host, it’s also pretty stable with nice GUI on iPhone so yes I will buy it again. LK is not even stable and achieved yet (I must admit I hope it will be), and Drambo is so.... modular. When you want to record simple ideas quickly, Atom does the trick. For more complex work I prefer a DAW like CB3.
It’s almost perfect for AUM jams but one thing got me from the start. I saw a screenshot of somebody using atom in AUM and saw that it had the Aum Stop/Start button and wrongly assumed that you’d be able to automate it, as AUM allows pretty much everything to be assignable to a midi note/cc/etc.
AUM does actually allow you to assign a controller to the button but it won’t actually work with Atom which I subsequently found out was an issue with Atom not AUM. Which was a huge disappointment as it can’t do one of the main things I wanted it for — and wrongly assumed it could do. If I knew it couldn’t switch patterns automatically in any shape or form I wouldn’t have bought it.
So no. I Definitely wouldn’t buy it again as it is.
I am hoping that one day it’s upgraded with pattern switching/automatable start stop.
Cc would be a huge bonus.
In AUM, in the routing window route the output from Atom to Drambo or LK and they will be able to grab the MIDI from ATOM.
And not forcing all output to midi channel 1. I can see how cc's could be major work. But just capturing and passing along midi channel with midi notes, and exposing start/stop as an AU parameter seems like it should be relatively easy.
I wish @blueveek would consider just those two "easy" (?) modifications to the existing codebase, and worry about a rewrite to fix architectural issues later.
I believe the issue is that he can't recompile the existing codebase with the current XCode because he used some techniques that weren't supported but worked at the time but which stopped working in a subsequent XCode update.
There are ways to deal with running older versions of Xcode. Maybe not worth it to him but there are ways.
[edit ... though, thinking through it a bit more, I'm not sure if publishing for the latest versions of iOS is possible with older versions of Xcode.]
+100
This!
Can I override this set midi channel? Or how is midi routed within different AUM channels?
Well, I'm now getting the hang of it... and it makes my imagination run wild... Record a bassline... Transpose Key/Scale Probability... and there is much more I have not learned, yet... Yep, this is it...