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@ashh here is the list of features as well as corresponding midi mappings
Most of iOS apps have a midi learn feature implemented as following: user selects a function of m the app and then activates a knob or button on a midi controller. Mapping of extra features is not easy with Orba because of possibility of triggering one thing when trying to do another.
I really like the size factor and wirelessness but there are too few buttons. Also, it would be great to have some extra controlls on the sides (there is space), like an old school volume turn wheel (I forgot what is a proper English word for it, but I guess you know what I mean) which can be mapped to filter cutoff/resonance.
This device has potential. I would like to see it developed into a more versatile midi controller. Perhaps we should wait for mk 2.
Ps. I have ignored build in synth/drums because in comparison to what we have on iOS, it's stone age
Have you used the editor on either iOS or Mac? May help with this mapping exercise
Also external remappers like MidiFire or Midiflow, and of course the better MPE synths will let you map parameters internally. I like it best with Noise AU (and Equator 2 on desktop), which among other things has pretty much the only really good MPE drumkits on iOS; the Orba would be an absolutely sensational MPE drum controller except for the fact that it still doesn't quantise. (It's coming, and is a priority, but no timeline.) The eight-note range can be a limitation but can also be a spur to creative thinking-outside-the-box. And there's nothing like it for controlling complex, well-designed MPE pads and drones with a ton of parameters.
Afaik there is no midi cc editor for Orba. And after mildly exciting first experiences, I have just sold the device and went back to traditional wired controller (M32 from native instruments). I love these knobs and man, so many keys!
Good to know new stuff is not always better.
Orba 2 is about to ship for $149. It adds quantizing MIDI patterns and importing/recording samples along with the 4 part scheme of the Orba 1's.
My daughter gifted me an Orba 1. I try to avoid hardware but you need to acknowledge and value a gift from a loved one. It's the thought and recognition of who they see you as. She has the genes that just emerge as musical instincts. Hand her a flute and an hour later she's making music with it. My dad use to feed my pawn shop object de musique and I'd figure out how to make cool sounds. Later, in college I rotated through every instrument in the orchestra... they checked them out to me one by one.
Funny thing... no saxophones. Go figure. But bassoon, oboe. trombone, etc.
I was in heaven and the teachers kept wondering... "how do you do that?
You get a decent sound in a couple days." It comes from my dad teaching me to just keep trying until you find it.
Orbas makes yet another MIDI controller to hand to someone with a pair of headphones and just let them create something in AUM or any DAW. It has 8 buttons and responds to tilts and shakes and tapping.
Hook one up with TC-Data or a nice Mozaic script and magic happens with some excellent free @SpiderIceMidas presets... especially the PAD's which are his particular "speciality".
I have an orba that i don’t use much. I’ve been thinking about hooking it up to the Meesha script.
The orba is so nearly really cool, but the flakyness of the Bluetooth connection and the lack of a patch editor/ new preset packs spoils it.
They actually released the Orba synth application.
With this you can create your own patches for the Orba.
I would never have bought an Orba but I was given one as a gift by my daughter.
It's a cool MIDI controller in a great form factor using thumbs around a pitch cushion form factor. Add in the PC synth editor and it's a powerful hardware groove box in a very crisp implementation.
Now I'm coveting the Orba 2 that adds quatinzation for the 4 tracks, 5 minutes of song/sequence time and "sampled" instrument recording along with a lot of pre-recorded materials. Change it up and it's a portable groove box with a headphone jack.
They are on to something and I hope to see them continue to create more MIDI hardware products with unique features as user friendly prices. Orba 2 is $149. Watch the videos.
Limitations inspire solution oriented thinking. You'll see and hear the power of their designs.
I will never buy from artiphon again. They promised us quatinzation and kept us believing that they will add it. They did the same for midi export and other features.
Now they released the 2 with most of the promised features.
Where can I get this? The app on the Apple store just lets you swap a few presets.
It's desktop-only, unfortunately. (But it is very good.) https://artiphon.com/pages/downloads and click on the Orbasynth tab.
Thanks - that wasn’t available when I last looked. Shame it’s not on iPad
At least this gives the Orba 1 an extra lease on life. I am still grumpy on not getting quantization.
Just sent kid back to LA/college. Sorting out his room to convert the chaos into a VR playground until he comes back at Christmas. Found the Orba in a box still from last Christmas. Always somewhat of an odd pleasure to play for free with an object you paid for under older and other circumstances etc.
There's a deal from GeoShred for Orba 2 owners:
I had it for about a week. It is very small. I love tapping percussive stuff and thought it might somehow be a cool mini hand pan replacement. To me the size makes it close to impossible to play expressively. Twice as big would likely bring it into the playable territory for me.
To my surprise, I'm liking the Orba 2 and the new presets for GeoShred.
For what I'm doing, that is not sampling, I think the Orba 1 would work just as well, though I'm looking forward to using the sampler and the longer loops of the Orba 2.
I am thinking of getting one of these mainly as a midi controller for Geoshred and other instruments
But I want to test it out first if it is big enough for me so I have to wait until it’s available in my music store here in Germany to go and test it out in person
What I am asking myself is do I really need the Orba 2 if I mainly use it as a midi controller because the orba 1 is cheaper and available right now for me
Orba 1 works really well with the GeoShred Tenor Sax preset, gave the Orba a new lease of life for me. The other SWAM instruments don’t have specific Orba presets, so less good. I was planning to make my own presets at some point, but so much better (for me) if they were built in.
One thing I should mention while I'm praising Orba 2 is that you can't yet save songs:
https://artiphon.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/44001020684/
As @mojozart says, it's going to depend on whether you have a need for the sampler and whether you use the looper, where the key new feature is the quantisation that they wanted to implement on the Orba 1 but had to upgrade the hardware to achieve. I use my Orba 1 exclusively as a controller for MPE synths, where its combination of motion-based and touch-based dimensions of expression are especially brilliant for drones, and the Orbasynth engine and desktop app are a synth nerd's dream. I've ordered the Orba 2 nevertheless because a standalone MPE sampler with the Orba expressive affordances has enormous potential – though I have a feeling all the synth-phobic Orba 1 users who were clamouring for a sampler are going to find that sample-based sound design for MPE is not for the faint of heart. But as @mojozart also notes, the dealbreaker at the moment is that saving isn't yet implemented on the Orba 2, so it's not as compelling a purchase as the Orba 1 until it's caught up there.
Love my Orba 1 - but usually I use it in my AUM sessions as a controller usually to Animoog or sometimes Thumbjam. Given I've had it for nearly 2 years it's only recently I tried a solo Orba track (connected to an ipad with a behringer USB interface and with FX and location samples in AUM) -
How I normally use it is also shown here
My main irritation with just looping with the Orba (apart from my terrible sense of timing of course :-) ) is the sound tends to glitch when you swap between the parts - that really shouldn't happen. What I haven't tried yet is to loop with it as a Midi source - maybe on another rainy day soon.
Those are really great! Thanks so much for posting them. The Galloway rain looks like all the inspiration anyone ever needs. All my childhood summer holidays looked like that.
To be fair that was the only day (well half day) of rain we had. I did also do a fair amount of other tracks and location "found sound" recording (pretty much all iPad/AUM based) - one of my holiday pleasures.
Just took delivery of an Orba 2… something to cheer me up as I tested positive for Covid this morning… second time but hopefully just like a bad cold 😢 Good news is that it gives me more time to mess around 😊 Biggest problem was getting the bleeding thing out of the box… finished up shredding it! Anyway here’s a demo video of my first go with it… now I just need to read the manual!
That was a nice moody sax excursion. Watching the video I have questions:
Was the Rozeta scaler instance be modulated by a slow LFO to effectively change the notes coming through from the Orba
As an MPE MIDI Controller. I like that idea… force the notes into a Mode and just let your melodic choices be intervals… either scaler up or down or some jump.
I played with using the 8 notes from my Orba 1 to drive a Mozaic “Samchillan” keyboard which has a similar result. I recommend it for your approach. Videos are available to show how as solo can move patterns quickly around in a fixed scale.
I’m eager to hear what you might do taking the Orba to outside loaded with your own samples. Quantisation for making long loops should be a nice workout with interesting results. Probably a great tool to get a kid hooked on E-Music making too.
Good luck with the Covid… mine took 10 days to test negative. The isolation was the worst part.
Hi @McD , entirely correct… Rozeta LFO is varying the input transpose parameter in Scaler which then forces the notes to the correct scale. I will have a look at the Mozaic solution. Early days yet , need to upgrade the firmware and prod it a bit more. I’m sure some of kids will like it !