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I set mine up as a controller for an AUM rig of moody pads and handed it to my wife with headphones and she didn’t come up for air for 5 minutes. Alternating thumbs make the melodies pretty complex compared the two fingering on a keyboard which most just slide along the white keys or play a simple melody they picked up over the years for a piano.
Can you share your AUM rig?
I problem for most would be not owning the apps I use and that’s where the magic exists. The Orba is just another way to
Trigger MIDI notes.
I’ll consider creating a rig using free apps like Numa Player, etc. Then everyone just needs to use the App Store and download any apps they down currently have loaded.
I do recommend Orba as a hardware MPE controller but there will always be someone throwing around 1 star reviews but I have a hard time finding Bluetooth MPE controllers for $100-150. I just hate cables when I can go without and Bluetooth MIDI latency is really low (and therefore… pretty good).
I made one using just free software available from the App Store… Lunar Lander is a highlight.
https://patchstorage.com/free-app-playground/
There’s a list of free apps to add to your rigs on the AudioBus Wiki:
https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=free_ios_apps&s[]=free&s[]=app
Hi there,
Yes, I have the Orba 1 and have used the Samchillan (and other variants) Mozaic script on the iPad screen. Those Mozaic scripts seem like obvious use cases for the Orba MIDI capabilities but I was too lazy to figure it out. Now I don't have to since you kindly and thoughtfully (by using free apps) shared the AUM preset. Thank you!
@McD thanks for the AUM preset but it doesn't include the Mozaic script? I was hoping for the mapping of the Orba keys to the Meesha or Samchillian notes in a coherent way?
Orba 2 desktop app + firmware update now has song saving (and other good things)… Presumably an update to the iOS app is imminent too, though firmware updating can only be done on desktop.
That sounds like a nice little project… I’ll try to produce anupdate to the AUM project that also has the Mozaic script loaded.
Lucky that I happen to have an Orba 1 here with me at the hospital. Ideally the Samchillan hardware provides 9 touch points.
4 for the +1, +2, +3, +4 right side and 4 for the -1, -2, -3, -4 and ideally a REPEAT note key. The Orba has 8 pads so repeat won’t be there unless I implement +/- 1,2,3 with 2 repeat pads or some other variation.
I’m open to ideas for this small detail… I could hack the script to implement the options and control selection with a knob. I’ll only bother is there’s a reason amount of interest or it turns out to be really trivial to implement.
Orbas output various scales or chords for the 4 “Layers” available:
Presetting the Orba to a “BASS” is recommended for alignment with the Mozaic script. I implemented C3 to C4 in my script I think and the SamChillan script also has something like this. Adding REPEAT for any black Key would make sense.
Anyway… I’ll get started working on adding this and uploading an update in the AUM repository on PatchStorage.
Excellent, thanks!
OK. The AUM Rig to load the Orba Mozaic environment is at:
https://patchstorage.com/orba-rig/
I think you will need to also download and install the Mozaic script into Mozaic prior to loading the AUM Project but I’d be interested to know if the AUM Project has the Mozaic script embedded in the context of the Mozaic instance already.
Mosaic link:
https://patchstorage.com/orba_rig/
So I have the Orba for about two weeks now and mainly use it as a midi controller because I mostly don’t like the inbuilt sounds and of course I could load my own samples but the problem then is that as soon as I haven’t got orba diatonic selected as preset it automatically falls in pentatonic mode so if I select my sample because it is a different preset it switches to pentatonic which really sucks
As a midi controller I can just leave it in diatonic preset and play with the sounds on my iPad
I am also disappointed that it won’t let me play the violin/cello in GeoShred I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong or if it’s just not possible but I don’t particularly like saxophones
What is a midi controller I really love it also the possibility of controlling it offers compared to a normal midi keyboard
The Geoshred violin and cello presets aren't set up for the Orba. I too was disappointed there weren't more factory Orba presets in Geoshred. At some point I was going to make my own by copying the settings in the sax preset, one day...
I was playing a Cello preset yesterday without any special effort. Let’s see if we can document the instructions to make Orba config’s for any existing preset. I suspect it just enabling some details around MPE so the incoming channels of CC, pitch bend, pressure, etc are forwarded to the right targets in the preset.
Share insights as you discover them.
I connected my Orba 1 to a SWAM Cello (not the GeoShred SWAM) and was less than over whelmed with the base level of
Additional expression like side wiggle for vibrato using “pitch bend”. It’s there but narrowly.
MIDI Learn is useless because the Orba won’t isolate one data stream at a time to help with assigning “tilt” to some target.
So, the SWAM target doesn’t make the association. This will be a problem in AUM as well so assignments will likely require
Hand editing to be set up.
So, we need the Orba manual to get the CC numbers. The Orba manual (covering Orba 1 and 2) is available here:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0229/7157/files/Orba_2_Manual_v2.0.2.pdf
I’m looking into useful MIDI controller functions with an Orba in an AUM session.
TILT - Orba’s send out MIDI CC 1 (Mod Wheel standard) on Channel 1 (programmers channel 0) in relation to the Orba’s tilt.
These setting set manually in AUM work great for me to control a channel’s volume slider in AUM:
The first track in AUM has Thumbjam loaded (could be any audio producing app).
I navigate into the MIDI Controls section of the AUM setting to find the track 1 Volume control
And set it manually to:
https://forum.audiob.us/uploads/editor/3s/zw6x99m4vssv.jpeg
I’ll keep looking for useful hacks to use the Orba in AUM and the details will apply for manual settings in synth or SWAM apps too.
Here’s an AUM project that implements the Orba MIDI controller on 2 instances of Tera Pro synths. Any synth can be substituted after loading the project:
https://patchstorage.com/orba-controlled-tera-pro-synths/
Here’s a video of on the rig in action:
NOTE that the music starts after 17 seconds. I wanted to demonstrate the MIDI stream in the MIDI monitor window first.
NOTE 2: I updated the patch to control Stereo Panning for Orba “Radius” sliding on a pad (center to rim movement). I also added 2 free Numaplayers to the Rig.
@McD this is great stuff, much appreciated. I’ll try and get going on my Geoshred preset plans.
I modified the Mozaic “Orba” script to forward all the Orba MIDI CC’s so an AUM project can offer Orba CC mapping but also offer the Orba “Samchillan/Eventide Misha” intervallic PAD interface. I could upload the Mozaic script as an update but the AUM Project would need to be another variation since it requires Mozaic.
Thx, it works great. I did have to download the Mozaic script first, of course, but AUM preset loaded the right preset on launch. Thank you!
It worked for me just downloading the AUM project, the Orba Mosaic script was right there
No kidding? Wow, that's a good trick! I didn't even try it since I figured it wouldn't have the script content, but I learned something new!
If that works then I suggest “saving” the Mozaic code in the Mozaic GUI at some point if you ever want to use the script in another context.
ORBA’s into GeoShred
There’s an “Artiphon Orba 2” MIDI device preset that when applied to Goeshred Presets maps:
vibrato amount to TILT.
Pressure (After touch which on the Orba is mapped to the amount of finger surface being touched) to Growl, Flutter, Overblow, etc.
Radiate (the slide from edge to center) to volume (I think)
So, I’m not seeing the need to buy the $32 upgrade for some more Presets.
The Artiphon Orba presets (for GeoTenorSax) sound and feel much better than with the other SWAM presets. The main extra control I’m seeing /hearing is expression. I’ve just started to see if I can copy those settings for use with another instrument, but it would be true to say at this point that I don’t know what I’m doing, will be a much wiser man at the other end… eventually.
I’ll share a couple insights I got from poking around in that preset:
The Orba Manual has a MIDI implementation chart showing what CC’s are output based on what hardware gestures:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0229/7157/files/Orba_2_Manual_v2.0.2.pdf
GeoShred has a page for setting MIDI CC’s for specific User Interface controls. You can get there by selecting:
Elipsis (3 vertical dots in upper right)
EDIT -> Control Surface
Anything set already will display a Red Dot with an X in it. Not Set Yet = Green Dot w X
Touch a screen widget like “Virbato amount” and you get a pop up menu.
Touch the MIDI box and it will display the CC’s associated with that widget and instrument control.
The Orba Tenor Sax shows MIDI CC 1 and MIDI Controller 107 is set to Vibrato amount. Orba does not send CC 107 but
CC 1 is send by TILT.
If you hit the RED DOT it will delete the setting and let you select a specific attribute to link to that User Interface object.
I like a slow Vibrato so I have to go into the Tenor Sax and set that manually for my tastes.
You can do that my this set of menu diving:
Elipsis …
Model & FX
Tenor Sax image
“Expert >”
Vibrato Rate (last in the list) I like it around 4.3
Back out of menu’s with CLOSE
I funded V1 in 2019 or 20 and sold it pretty quickly. Chemo had cost me a lot of feeling in my hands and I used it as an excuse to try a variety of controllers. It was nifty, but not for me. (No sympathy needed, the feeling is mostly back, certainly enough to keep playing guitar as I have since 1984!)
FYI, the Orba 2 is on sale for Amazon Prime day, July 11, 2023. (USA - not sure about elsewhere)