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I enjoy Gadget for sketching. If you make music that doesn’t fit into discrete 2-16 bar non-overlapping chunks it has limitations one can’t workaround.
I love it for quickly capturing ideas or as a piece of outboard gear (massive multi-timbral synth rack). But the sequencer doesn’t lend itself to final composition for me, and I don’t need it to. So, it isn’t a complaint. I really enjoy Gadget..
Funny Mister Monz. The Maschine must _have something good going on because I feel guilty as well for not using it all the time and when I do learn the next step/muscle memory etc I am always blown away by the results. The most egregious aspect hereabouts is probably that as I also have a powerful new laptop I find that I use all of the noises and the software (which I LIKE precisely _because it's far simpler than ABleton etc
), but rarely (for now) use the box itself 
Definitely, It’s not in my particular workflow as much these days but still a great option packed with possibilities.
The albums I released contrary to popular acclaim in the past two years were entirely gadget (and my voice). Track mixing was in Logic and Auria (in fact I sang directly into Auria for the last one).
Xequence 2 + Gadget is a great combination for anyone not enamored with the Gadget tracks or sequencer approach. Just sayin'.
The only fly in the ointment comes when you want to export tracks from Gadget. Then you either need to record Gadget's output with something like AUM, or record X2's midi into Gadget (and deal with the 16 bar limitations, etc.)
I think after years of tapping an iPad screen and using a mouse, I just find hardware controllers a bit weird. I’m ‘freezing’ the old MBP setup though, so it’s always something I can go back to, and this thread is a good reminder.
To be honest I haven’t had much time for any music recently, as I’ve been busy unpacking boxes, digging raised beds and planting veg!
I’ve got a birthday this weekend though, so any suggestions for music making (cheap) prezzies welcome! All I can think of at the moment are new wellies and some line for my strimmer.
Gadget - love it, spent a fortune on it, never use it!
Your good self as the Young Monz, still alive in the weird physics of time, is shaking his head fondly at you down through the years
What is it all the geezers have Mk3’s? Next thing they’ll be selling them at night on the tube along with car wax and back pills. “A new walk in tub in one day!?” What, I can make my own disco with this thing that lights up ... it better come with a printed manual!!!
Good luck settling in @MonzoPro . How’s the roof at the new place?
Weird how we turn into our dads. The young Monzo would shake his head in wonder at HIS dad, spending weekends digging the family veg plot, rather than raving the night away at some greasy festival or other. And now....
Incredibly good for the physical body though - I’ve lost a couple of stone, the old back is good again, and I’ve developed muscles in places where I didn’t have places before.
Thanks mate. Yeah - better than the old one, though still a bit rickety! Lots to do here sorting stuff out, but I’ve got my eye on the shed as an autumn project - a bit of boarding out so it can be used as a musical receptacle....though the price of materials is making me nervous. It’s a good social space here though - we’ve had constant visitors over the last three weeks, and some fairly intensive partying - good to have enough space away from the neighbours to be able to get the guitars out
Anyway, apologies for derailing the thread - I’ll creak off back to my broccoli...
Well, pleased that you finally got the house sorted, even more pleased if it's led to losing a few pounds. A thousand years ago my old man took me for a lunchtime pint at a RAFA Club down in Devon where he lived then. Place was quiet, maybe thirty old folks spread about the place. He asked me to pick out what was common among them.
"They're all really old?"
"Yes, but that's not it. They're all really old and none of them have an ounce to spare. All the big ones are dead already."
Didn't mean much to me then, does now
Still waiting for the kaossiltor note input pad to go alongside the new drum thingy
Contrary to popular acclaim I checked them on Spotify (perhaps I’m 1 of your 2 monthly listeners)
Somehow the vocals remind me of Van Dyke Parks... You could’ve recorded those in Zurich (or better yet Durban and Rosario!) and mix it all in Gadget. If only to prove @KirbyMumbo ‘s point (which I agree with).
I’m probably the only one who feels this way but if Korg made their loop braces snap to grid rather than multiples of a bar I’d delete every other iOS music app (except maybe AUM, Riffer, and AudioShare 🙂 oh and Endless too.)
Is it still alive, hell yeah it is, and many folks on here still use it all the time. Regardless of issues and niggles that people toss out, nothing changes that it’s an incredible collection of KORG sounds and let’s you get some amazing pieces out relatively quickly.
It’s a great app. Could it be improved and expanded, for sure, but it’s still a blast and incredibly useful.
Gadget is fine as is. It will need to be updated significantly at some point (death of IAA.) the main issue I have with Gadget is the same I have with Caustic 3, fx/mixing/polish, but it’s easy enough to export stems and midi and do that elsewhere.
HOW DARE YOU, YOU YOUNG SHAVER YOU!
Paperweight indeed. Well, yes, mostly. My problem is that I am not a 'live' player and have yet to invest enough to get the muscle memory investment. Still time (before death etc
).
It’s actually earning its keep as an audio interface as I don’t have one otherwise. I’ve got mics and guitars going in, and it’s powering my studio monitors with zero latency. But yeah, this is another reminder that I need to get back in, so might have a bash on it later.
Since we’re talking Gadget, maybe folks can explain something that’s been bugging me for a while: the Wolfsburg gadget is described as “a collection of distinctive analog synthesizer waveforms that have been resampled using digital technology.” What does “resampled using digital technology” mean? Surely all the Gadgets are digital anyway??
The Korg Gadgets are each intended to be hardware devices. So, Wolfsburg would be a digital sample-based playback "synth" that has flash rom's of "analog synth" recordings in lieu of Oscillators. So, this
"new fangled" hardware unit could hold the sounds of dozens of classic analog synths like the early Moog's and Buchlas. It's also a polyphonic synth while many of the classic analog's were monophonic so
you can play those classic sounds in chords or with polyphonic lines. This type of hybrid gadget had a precise place in synth history with the advent of digital IC's (integrated devices) that rapidly replaced all the analog components in our consumer electronics.
I don't know if there are explicit real-world hardware devices for each Korg Gadget but there are many here that would and they might weigh in. Korg doesn't want to have to pay 3rd parties for licensing so they probably created "clone" types without being strictly detailed or even accurate in the cloning.
More a clone of a hardware type that existed as a product once or could still exist with enough people
to care about that sound or use case. Like the TB-x0x drum machines, for example.
I read it as in: (multi) samples of the 5 different oscillator types. So technically Wolfsburg is a rompler. Its pulse width is static (only different types of pulse samples). Unlike some of the virtual analog gadgets that do have wave shape options for the oscillators.
One of the most versatile (base) gadgets imo, with its 4 filter types, 2 fx and mod matrix.
Indeed, would be great if they’d have it snap to grid. Shouldn’t be too difficult for Korg to change.
I have a feeling it's alive and we'll get a nice update when it finally drops
I'd love to see at least one AUv3 new app that would also be a Gadget...
...dream would be to get a polyphonic iNTS-1 Synth and FX AUv3's with option to load user oscillators & effects
Korg should also be preparing for iOS/iPadOS14 which will apparently support proper multi-threading for audio-tasks etc. etc.
With IAA slowly being deprecated the jump to AUv3 might take a bit longer than expected.
Since Gadget is built using Juce updating to the latest Juce version could also be pretty resource intensive...
...but it would in the long run make it easier to adopt AUv3.
Time will tell, but considering the bigger trade shows are being canceled one by one the eventual release-schedules may need to be re-scheduled to sooner rather than later
In the meantime I'm enjoying diving in to MPC Beats on the Desktop and integrating it with Logic Pro X...
Cheers!
Yeah, It's working for me too!
It works as 'Korg Intended' and I think it's that what is rubbing some the 'wrong way'.
I'd love to see easier 'resampling' (ie. export just one track/scene to a file) currently it's impossible to just export one scene of a track to a file, it's one track (ie. all scenes) or nothing and with the 10 second sample-limit it's a bit DOH!
Better automation editing with curves across multiple scenes.
Time-Line mode and an option to switch the Tracks/Scenes mode to a clip-launcher.
Time-Line mode could also include proper audio-tracks with editing and portions of the recording could easily be imported into the 'Sampler Gadgets' for mangling.
Access to all samples from all Gadgets (Ie. use Amsterdam Samples in Bilbao, Abu Dabi, London and Vancouver and vice versa).
Think about using samples in Wulfsburg with all the filters and effects, that would go a long way!
But yeah, Korg knows about these requests but they are very quiet about any kind of roadmaps for new Gadget features.
Cheers!
Spoiled?
Logic Pro x cost $199.99 and includes alchemy and thousands of patches...
Korg gadget costs around 300-400.00 to complete...how the hell are you calling this a spoiling?
Even reason 11 is cheaper...
Okay so now let’s compare lpx or Reason 11 to Korg gadget...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA GTFO!
Next.
Gadget is a bunch of limited romplers a handful of subtractive synths, and one wavetable synth...and the worlds most useless sequencer. Back when it arrived on iOS it was nice....but we have left it behind at this point, and so has KORG. Smh
Still the best-sounding collection of synths on iOS. No wonder it sets the old iPads on fire. I’d like a better sampler but otherwise just keep it working on iOS going forward please Korg!
How would you see looping working? Right now everything is multiples of bars, so if one pattern has only one bar and others have four, the one bar pattern loops four times. How would you expect it to work with a loop that is less than a bar? If it was three beats, would it loop every three beats and stop in the middle if the scene changed? If it was 5 beats and the rest were four beats would the whole scene loop every 5 beats? How would the other bars loop? Every 4 beats?
There are other ways to handle a bar with a length non divisible into the other loops, so I'm interested in how people would see that playing out.
It would play out as a 5:4 Polyrhythm
I feel if Korg does create a Version 3(or hopefully 2.5) with a linear timeline view, that would really set it over the top. I'm pretty set on all the included gadgets and IAPs I've made. I've dropped about $110 on gadget alone I think haha.
When switching scenes, which would win, the 5 or the 4? One would need to be chosen to play to its end and the other would need to stop in the middle somewhere. What I'm saying is, unless all patterns are the same length or a multiple of each other, when does the scene as a whole loop or stop?