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  • @tk32 said:
    There is also a sweet spot between being sober and being blind drunk.

    Doesn't make it any easier to land there though. :p

    Hah, true enough.

  • edited March 2021

    @Gavinski said:
    @Jeezs said:
    Don’s understand the dilemma.
    If it is release now those who want to buy it can buy now, it those who want to wait can wait. 😀😀
    Where is the problem ?

    Exactly. Releasing now is a no-brainer

    Agreed. If it’s in a finished state up to a stopping point, push it out. Can always add those other features later as an update or even an IAP.

    I’d say option #1

  • I would say option 1 so that you don’t feel pressured to overwork yourself. Release now, and take the necessary time to implement everything else you have planned.

  • Option 1. We can create and get comfortable with the app as it is. You can get immediate feedback and any additions will be a huge bonus.

  • edited March 2021

    Initial Atom 2 Release
    1. Piano Roll record/Edit MIDI note information including channel #
    2. CC Looper record MIDI CC# with the ability to undo/delete/overdub and edit channel#
    3. Support for different levels of CC precision
    4. The ability to have CC sequences in sync with MIDI note sequences
    5. MIDI Mute controls for output (e.g. route an Atom sequence to control CC mutes or notes)
    6. Export options: specify note information, channels, and CC numbers to include in MIDI files.
    7. State Savings (this is the biggest drawback of Photon AU)

    I think a CC Looper where you record/edit via traditional looper techniques rather than a piano roll editor would be very useful as often you want to tweak automations with the MIDI note sequencer running. Having notes and CC in sync yet independent would be a very useful modular functionality as there are many sources of CC via apps or hardware.

    Continuous versus Discrete MIDI
    A big difference between CC and MIDI note information is their continuous versus discrete nature when changing clock speed as you have to deal with interpolation rather than relatively simple scaling with notes. This is also another reason why a separation yet ability to sync them together would be better.

    User feedback on what sorts of interpolation options for CC they want seems necessary.

  • I think option 1 is best, and you make customers happy twice, once on release and second with a new features update :)

    I can underdstand wanting to release a perfect app, but it's not possible.
    Getting it out sooner will reveal some more bugs as it's a wider user base which will need fixing anyway, so after that you can concentrate on the automation.

  • edited March 2021

    @blueveek @tk32
    How about new thread with a poll for option 1 or 2 starting , now calculate results on Monday ? ( If someone already suggested this please ignore this comment)

  • @joniqwest said:
    @blueveek @tk32
    How about new thread with a poll for option 1 or 2 starting , now calculate results on Monday ? ( If someone already suggested this please ignore this comment)

    This thread is actually fine, I am keeping track of what everyone has to say believe it or not! I'm amazed at the level of support and nuance in analyzing the situation from everyone here.

  • MPE please. You could be the first one on iOS — excuse me — iPad OS! So go for it. Automation can bee done in other Apps for now. But MPE‘s a killer feature.

  • @blueveek said:

    @joniqwest said:
    @blueveek @tk32
    How about new thread with a poll for option 1 or 2 starting , now calculate results on Monday ? ( If someone already suggested this please ignore this comment)

    This thread is actually fine, I am keeping track of what everyone has to say believe it or not! I'm amazed at the level of support and nuance in analyzing the situation from everyone here.

    👍👍👍

  • @Ploe said:
    MPE please. You could be the first one on iOS — excuse me — iPad OS! So go for it. Automation can bee done in other Apps for now. But MPE‘s a killer feature.

    Nothing against MPE but I think a lot more people would use and appreciate automation before MPE. It is a standard feature in producing a track.

  • @gusgranite said:

    @Ploe said:
    MPE please. You could be the first one on iOS — excuse me — iPad OS! So go for it. Automation can bee done in other Apps for now. But MPE‘s a killer feature.

    Nothing against MPE but I think a lot more people would use and appreciate automation before MPE. It is a standard feature in producing a track.

    No question. 👍🏼

  • @gusgranite said:

    @Ploe said:
    MPE please. You could be the first one on iOS — excuse me — iPad OS! So go for it. Automation can bee done in other Apps for now. But MPE‘s a killer feature.

    Nothing against MPE but I think a lot more people would use and appreciate automation before MPE. It is a standard feature in producing a track.

    As an FYI, all that the level of MPE support suggested entails is that it record incoming MIDI (including the channel the events come in on) and be able play it back. There is less to it on the recording/playback side than most people realize.

  • Option 1 but only if it records and plays back midi CCs (actually, preferably all MIDI, period). I don't care at all if they're editable. That can wait for a later release (preferably IAP). Some kind of rudimentary display just to show that cc data exists and perhaps a basic curve.

    I would probably not use Atom 2 much without that. Sustain pedal anyone?

    As for MPE, maybe along the same lines? Just record it, but only allow note editing. I can see making an effective MPE editor could be a huge challenge.

  • If it can’t record CC I suppose it will not record pitch bend and I wait for this for recording iFretless bass lines since Atom 1... please Atom 2 needs CC automation even if not editable!!

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @Ploe said:
    MPE please. You could be the first one on iOS — excuse me — iPad OS! So go for it. Automation can bee done in other Apps for now. But MPE‘s a killer feature.

    Nothing against MPE but I think a lot more people would use and appreciate automation before MPE. It is a standard feature in producing a track.

    As an FYI, all that the level of MPE support suggested entails is that it record incoming MIDI (including the channel the events come in on) and be able play it back. There is less to it on the recording/playback side than most people realize.

    I still think it’s lower priority.

  • The common sense pragmatic approach is to release what you have today keep the masses happy then release an update when you add a decent new feature like automation.

    It’s a Win Win situation for all.

    @blueveek - thanks for all your hard work. I’d say the count is around 80% for option 1 from what I’ve noticed over the last few days :).

  • After reading everyone’s ideas I go with ..
    Option 1
    I now agree with release quick and with regular updates, if you can. I remember devs that do it this way and it seems a professional way to do things.

  • @krassmann said:
    1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1....... 😊

    Get the feedback of the community for the version without automation. You will get a lot of bug reports and feature requests for this core functionality. And I would surely handle this with higher priority than the automation. First getting the core straight, then extend it. I’m quite sure the automation that we’ll get with the iterative approach will be a different one. Good automation is not trivial. Take your time for this big feature and get the feedback of the release now.

    I’m a software architect with 30+ years in the industry, being a developer myself for many years. I know that in the world of commercial software development with overambitious timelines and unrealistic promises to customers the developers are often pushed to release software they are not happy with. I know your pain but now you are overreacting. Look how open source projects are doing it, they also release more often. Also don’t create a feature monster now. Put all your need for perfection in the core functionality. As a dev I’m sure you love UNIX, so respect the UNIX philosophy, stay focused, do one thing and do it well.

    That’s my advice and also a bit selfish wish of an iOS musician 😄

    this

  • Option 1! Please ship now. Never been so excited about an app. In fact, this is the only reason I signed up to this forum. :D

  • edited March 2021

    @wim said:
    I would probably not use Atom 2 much without that. Sustain pedal anyone?

    As for MPE, maybe along the same lines? Just record it, but only allow note editing. I can see making an effective MPE editor could be a huge challenge.

    Full repect for @blueveek todo list. If I insist on MPE is to summon the voices that request it. Maybe it gets re-prioritized 🙃

    As @wim says, just record is enough. Note editing ok too.

    But I go for a clear one: release the thing!

  • @wim said:
    Option 1 but only if it records and plays back midi CCs (actually, preferably all MIDI, period). I don't care at all if they're editable. That can wait for a later release (preferably IAP). Some kind of rudimentary display just to show that cc data exists and perhaps a basic curve.

    I would probably not use Atom 2 much without that. Sustain pedal anyone?

    As for MPE, maybe along the same lines? Just record it, but only allow note editing. I can see making an effective MPE editor could be a huge challenge.

    Yup, recording CCs is hugely important I think, and much more important than bring able to edit, for now at least.

  • @noniman93 said:
    Option 1! Please ship now. Never been so excited about an app. In fact, this is the only reason I signed up to this forum. :D

    But we are generally so charming and attractive!

  • edited March 2021

    @Daub said:
    A cynical person would think that this is a marketing campaign or worse still ‘vapourware’.
    As an Atom user, I hope to be proven wrong.

    Ooops, I didn’t mean to cause a stir...

    Option 1 for me

  • edited March 2021

    Are we still polling? Or, is it safe to say it is overwhelmingly yes for option #1?

  • Hi @blueveek,

    My choice is option 1 because there's already a lot you'll bring to the iOS community with this one.
    You'll make lot of people happy and I guess you already made us happy thanks to your behaviour, your great transparent communication on your Atom 2.
    After releasing it, I would advice you to take your time and make update when you decide it is the right moment.
    You give your personal time as well as the great beta testers do for helping you.
    Take your time, and go forward on automation features by keeping a good health.
    Once more, many thanks for your work and generosity.

  • edited March 2021

    Push it to Apple review today 😎

  • @zah said:
    So, that's 513 for option 1 and 20 for option 2 :)

    This app originally came out almost two years ago. I was reading reviews on different country app stores and dev response to a reviewer said that Midi import/export was coming in an update.
    That was in early June. Of 2019. Almost 21 months ago...
    I really wanted an app like this where I could work on some midi stuff away from desktop DAW, but the midi import/export was a deal breaker. So I wasted my money on Xequence2 - which could do that, but the workflow was so kludgey and not suited to touch screen and updates never showed up that it just sits unused now.
    So I would love to have Atom 2 out - especially for the import/export and also since I have bought AUM in the meantime, and those two apps look like a perfect union for a mobile midi solution as well.

    I'm curious as to how many here have Atom 1 and will get this for free (I think) and how many, like me, have not yet bought because of various limitations of the original. I almost bought this at the beginning of this thread, thinking the update was "coming soon", but 8 months later, I still have no clue as to when this app will drop.

    I use Atom quite heavily. It’s so simple and intuitive that it’s been my go-to sequencer always. The interface is smooth! With the new features that are to ship with new update - MIDI Import/Export, Extensive triggering options, ‘Abletonesque’ workflows, etc - I can safely say that it is going to be a game-changer!

    (Option 1 Option 1 Option 1 😛)

  • i need this to fully sequence, pick sounds, mix, and master my tracks, or else im not biting. neither option will fit my workflow.

    (ok, but seriously, option 1 is great, def was looking forward to option 2, but lets rock)

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