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DAWs, FX and details for Side-Chaining on IOS
Being woefully ignorant about current audio techniques I didn't get the power of side-chaining until I heard a great mix and watched some videos that showed when and why to apply side-chaining in a mix-down process. Now I get it.
Which DAW's have the proper bussing for side-chaining?
AUM obviously have the right plumbing support but it's clumsy with time-aligned audio (IMHO)
Which compressors support side-chaining?
I know Magic Death Eye Stereo has it because it was explained in a thread and I made that work in AUM
I know Fab Filter showed it in their GUI but no DAW had support at the time FF was released on IOS
I know there are some IOS hacks to get close but I want the real deal info
Can I use MDE Stereo in Cubasis and Side-Chain the Drum Track into FF Pro-C for example?
Those are the coolest tools for IOS mixing... not going back to AP. I'll use AUM if I have to find a way.
Any advice appreciated.
Is this the reason to use Ableton or Logic Pro? To mix like a pro?
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MagicDeathEye doesn’t have it.
MagicDeathEyeStereo does.
Good point. I'll probably start using FF Pro-C for this. But Thanks. I will edit the opening statement.
Saturn 2 does support sidechainig. I use it a lot to trigger envelopes in Saturn that control the amount of distortion or feedback.
Sorry double post.
The AB Wiki has a list of list of multi bus AUv3s and hosts, that also contains the effects with side-chaining support.
@jolico How many side-chain inputs does ‚MagicDeathEyeStereo‘ support in AUM ? His other compressor offers 4. I don’t have the ‚Stereo‘ version, so i can‘t check and i didn‘t find that info on the dev‘s website or in the update history.
Just one, but you can put it on a bus with multiple sources if you need to.
for final mixing/mastering i would suggest to use desktop daw .. for my last 2 albums i used Logic - just exported 4 sub groups (kick, drums, bass, synths) from NS and then finalised stem mastering in Logic ..
Woodpressor has sidechain.
Wasn't Woodpressor the one that created a kind of experimental "hack" before there
was any movement for an AUv3 standard?
Aha!
Get on the "multi-bus" y'all.
I have the compressors... I need details on the DAW's other than AUM that implement
"Multi-bus".
I probably not going to Master on my laptop. Too much work. I'm sure Cubasis 3 will add the feature around the time NS2 adds audio tracks and @Michael finishes adding features to
Loopy Pro and get's his "self-sodomizing" loop patent.
We should start a betting market on these major pre-announced events right after a developer makes us our own crypto-currency called "AudioBucks".
Auria Pro supports side-chaining in AUv3s, but not multi-outs.
OK... thanks guys.
Finding workflows to side-chain audio in AUM looks like the best answer
right now for my needs.
I use Tonebooster Compressor (not barricade) and TB EQ in Auria Pro.
I recently learned about side chain EQing and my mind was blown. To bad I can’t find the video that was explaining it.
Here a exemple to give room in the mix for lead vocal or main melody.
1- Find the frequency range in your guitar or synth that mask or conflict with the main vocal. (If you want details how I do this let me know).
2 - Apply a EQ on the guitar with a wide bell lowering the eq range identify in step 1.
3 - Set the eq side chain as the vocal.
4 - Set the EQ mid /side to affect only the mid.
When the vocalist sing there will be a frequency dip in the eq of the guitar only on the center channel making more room for the vocalist to be heard.
I hope my explanation is clear.
Perfect. This is what I was hoping for. But I guess it has to be AP.
Someone will eventually poke in and say ZenBeats or BM3 or AEMS or Multi-Shit Studio or (wait for it) GarageBand can do it. Duh.
LOL... let me get it started then.
Hey @McD , BM3 can do this via its built-in compressor... Duh
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You're welcome
@McD Multi-shit studio can do all you dream of. It's the 💩💩
This 💩 is golden 🤣🤣🤣
Yes but MSS doesn't support slaving to multiple MIDI clocks and sync'ing them
to GMT. I should have mentioned that up front. I gotta' have coherent MIDI for all my devices... especially in the car. I have put a MIDI controller on my engine to change the
RPM's to play bass lines. Still, buggy but I'll get it down when it gets out of the body shop and I get my drivers license back and the insurance check shows up.
@brambos as a new universal midi clock and stuff app that fixes that problem. It synchs perfectly with my Porsche 911 and my Lamborghini Urus.
It was developed in collaboration with his 2 brothers, Mario and Luigi
mela fx has a sidechain option but i haven’t tried it
Damn, tinker... some people get access to the beta software before the 2nd class losers. My car was a classic American Motors Gremlin. Sweet ride. Original paint.
Speaker of side-chaining - they used something to get me out of the car that
sounded a bit like a chain saw.
Gremlin well now I am jealous. Sweetest ride ever.
Ok Gremlin is cool but I'll take a Pacer any day.
fun= let sidechain push the sides in a stereo mix..uknow drum->fabfilter pro g<-synth pads... every beat pushes the pads out LR... dam nice i tell ya.. this can be done in TB EQ too , just use MS mode ( mid side)
Yep. It requires some effort but it works quite well
Can I use it to side-chain in Cubasis 3?
I forgot about Audio damage Pumphouse that I use quite a lot in Cubasis. It is fake side chain but I really enjoy the way it works and sounds.
Same question... can you side-chain with it in Cubasis?
Dont use Cubasis here sorry
It is fake side chain. So yes you can fake side chain in Cubasis.
Fake side-chain for the win.