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  • @gkillmaster said:

    Curious what those better options may be? I'd love to find something similar to the Linnstrument. This is still young so hoping dev can incorporate some of our wishes :)

    Velocity Keyboard, Geoshred, iFretless all echo the Linnstrument paradigm.

  • @michael_m said:
    The problem I have with tools like this is that I have already learned to play on a piano keyboard, so I don’t really need to learn a new paradigm, especially one that doesn’t yet have broad acceptance.

    Not being AU is something that I think a lot of people will have an issue with, so hopefully that gets updated.. Good luck to the developer, but I’ll pass on this.

    It needs to be AU and MPE to compete with existing apps in the same space. I would give it a shot if it had those features.

  • edited December 2020

    @I_am_Echelon said:
    So first let me give you guys some links explaining everything.

    This is the basic concept behind the underlying music language called Form. I'm not showing duration yet but it's just a simple as the rest of the language:
    https://brentbrinkley.medium.com/introducing-form-a-new-music-language-f86c9884dd53

    And here's an explanation of FormKey:
    https://brentbrinkley.medium.com/introducing-form-continued-1e6067f91bd5

    If you guys have questions or feature suggestions feel free to reply I'm listening. I'll be responding to as many of these as I can.

    Kudos for your audacity, but I think the Wicki-Hayden layout is a disqualifier for me. This might be good for beginners and playing strictly diatonic music, but a disadvantage for any music that involves chromaticism.

    I also don’t see how substituting symbols for note names accomplishes anything useful. It’s a new thing to learn, but for what? You still need to know the note names to be a literate musician.

    There used to be a great app called Seline that had a really nice ergonomic kb layout. I wish that one was still around.

  • There were a few hex keyboards around a few years back ... Chordion leaps to mind ... from the folks who made Patternings 1 & 2.

    The beehive keyboard structure can be configured to give some unusual and quite musical chord progressions. Makes you think differently ... not as linear as a standard keyboard ... more three dimensional in concept ... up, down, diagonals and sliding off to the side. More gymnastic.

    There are others too ... Soundprism and Fingerlab had some offerings as I recall.

    But none have taken the world by storm ... mostly for the reasons mentioned above.

  • @michael_m said:
    The problem I have with tools like this is that I have already learned to play on a piano keyboard, so I don’t really need to learn a new paradigm, especially one that doesn’t yet have broad acceptance.

    Not being AU is something that I think a lot of people will have an issue with, so hopefully that gets updated.. Good luck to the developer, but I’ll pass on this.

    Understandable. A tool like this is geared more towards people that don't know how to play an instrument but want to learn how to in an easier way without losing the depth of music theory.

  • @I_am_Echelon said:

    @michael_m said:
    The problem I have with tools like this is that I have already learned to play on a piano keyboard, so I don’t really need to learn a new paradigm, especially one that doesn’t yet have broad acceptance.

    Not being AU is something that I think a lot of people will have an issue with, so hopefully that gets updated.. Good luck to the developer, but I’ll pass on this.

    Understandable. A tool like this is geared more towards people that don't know how to play an instrument but want to learn how to in an easier way without losing the depth of music theory.

    Yes, that seems to be the most likely audience for this.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @I_am_Echelon said:
    So first let me give you guys some links explaining everything.

    This is the basic concept behind the underlying music language called Form. I'm not showing duration yet but it's just a simple as the rest of the language:
    https://brentbrinkley.medium.com/introducing-form-a-new-music-language-f86c9884dd53

    And here's an explanation of FormKey:
    https://brentbrinkley.medium.com/introducing-form-continued-1e6067f91bd5

    If you guys have questions or feature suggestions feel free to reply I'm listening. I'll be responding to as many of these as I can.

    Kudos for your audacity, but I think the Wicki-Hayden layout is a disqualifier for me. This might be good for beginners and playing strictly diatonic music, but a disadvantage for any music that involves chromaticism.

    I also don’t see how substituting symbols for note names accomplishes anything useful. It’s a new thing to learn, but for what? You still need to know the note names to be a literate musician.

    There used to be a great app called Seline that had a really nice ergonomic kb layout. I wish that one was still around.

    I'll probably add a chromatic layout at some point. And the goal with Form is creating a language that can be translated easily to common notation and back. It wont make sense until I show what duration looks like, but essentially it's sheet music that anyone can learn to read in about 5 minutes.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @michael_m said:
    The problem I have with tools like this is that I have already learned to play on a piano keyboard, so I don’t really need to learn a new paradigm, especially one that doesn’t yet have broad acceptance.

    Not being AU is something that I think a lot of people will have an issue with, so hopefully that gets updated.. Good luck to the developer, but I’ll pass on this.

    It needs to be AU and MPE to compete with existing apps in the same space. I would give it a shot if it had those features.

    These seem to be the most requested features so it's at the top of the priority list.

  • Hi @I_am_Echelon - just wondering if the 'transport' controls top left of the interface are supposed to do anything? Thx...

  • @enkaytee said:
    Hi @I_am_Echelon - just wondering if the 'transport' controls top left of the interface are supposed to do anything? Thx...

    Hi! Yes. They're MIDI CC so you can program them to control your transport in whatever DAW you're using.

  • @I_am_Echelon said:

    @enkaytee said:
    Hi @I_am_Echelon - just wondering if the 'transport' controls top left of the interface are supposed to do anything? Thx...

    Hi! Yes. They're MIDI CC so you can program them to control your transport in whatever DAW you're using.

    OK - thanks!

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