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The combinatorial possibilities for what controls are on the control surface is in the bazillons. There are over 250 controls in the system and between 7-14 can be exported to the control surface.
We created template presets with what we thought would be the most useful set of controls. If there are controls that you find useful, creating your own preset is the way to go.
For instance what if you wanted the GeoViolin, with no echo, a sympathetic droner, and scale chooser, you can create this with the preset editor. And, you can share it!.
Please work with us on why your global parameters are not working. They should. For instance if set the layout in Menu> Settings. it should be global for all presets. [email protected]
In the update 5.80.1, State retention has been significantly improved. However there is one edge case that we are still tracking down. It has to do with loading the plugin and just using the preset that comes up, without selecting a preset. This preset will not get written to the AU parameter tree and thus will not get saved. The solution is to simply select the preset if, you want the one that comes up when the plugin loads.
Video here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ddzytqie24fovn/Actively Select A Preset.mp4?dl=0
@moforte, totally understand how deep GeoShred is. Just above my pay grade to delve into it. However, GeoShred is working great with Cubasis3 and the SWAM instruments are wonderful. Please don’t take away the ability to port to MIDI controllers with channel 2 and above! Also, I discovered I can overdub the expression on a recorded SWAM midi track and that makes things a lot easier. Cs it wait for the brasses!
Ok, I thank you mo forte for reply! I admit I could be the user error here and when I go to global settings and tuning or string layout I pick my 8 string normal tuning, save I think and I switch presets and a 2 stringer comes up! Thats all I want buddy, I am sure its gotta be me but Ive just tried so many times. Like do other people set a fripp tuning and every preset is solid fripp tuning? IF so im the one in the wrong my bad... I am semi competent and use and Alesis I dock 2. Cheers and all.
For those interested (if any), I discovered it is possible to stack several GeoSWAM instruments inside the same preset :
And it works ! 🤗
Don’t know the usefulness of this, though, as GeoShred is AUv3...
Speaking of parameters, I was surprised to find out that GeoCello with added Harmonics can sound like flute in higher registers.
Also, sometimes, depending on expressive articulation, some Cello presets can remotely sound like saxophone, especially when playing through iPad speakers.
Could be useful for some unison lines. Example:
Just made me throw up my dinner.....not the sound, which is great, but the content is an insult to Jazz - talk about muzak!
Yes, nice.
You can also transpose and/or split the surface to play e.g. the cello or the violin alternatively.
It's just a pity we cannot stack several violins or several flutes together to play ensembles but that's life and doable anyway with AUv3.
Looking forward to trying the split, using the Osmose as a controller, when the Osmose arrives. Assuming I don't get too lost in the Osmose's own sounds. I'm just not a good enough player to play two different parts simultaneously on the app itself. It's enough of a challenge to play with just one hand and get the pitches where I want them, with the right amount of expression.
I'm working on playing slower melodies like the one I posted, then maybe taking on this faster version, that some Brazilian commenters say sound like choro music. One even said it made him think of Pixinguinha.
Okay guys (and girls…), I think I have some kind of “breaking news” regarding GeoSwam instruments, at least for GeoSwam enthusiasts. Still, I am not sure I want to disclose this here publicly… So PM me if you feel you are amongst the Geoswam power users.
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I had not yet looked into those SWAM settings in GeoShred. Thanks for pointing that out.
I know that you are describing it as "above channel 2, but what is going on is that the GeoSWAM instruments are licensed from Audio Modeling to respond to MIDI/MPE. We will NOT take away MPE because it's core to the design of GeoShred as a new kind of musical instrument.
What this means is that Channel 1 is the "Manager Channel" and channels 2 .. n are "Member Channels" ie voice channels. Further MPE calls out that multi-dimensional expression is on the Member Channels or Manager Channel and is PitchBend (KeyX) , CC74 (KeyY) and ChannelPressure (KeyZ). Note that Channel Pressure is sometimes called Channel AfterTouch and is NOT Poly AfterTouch. ChannelPressure is not a continuous controller, it is a MIDI 1.0 message that applies to channels. Audio Modeling requires that for GeoSWAM models the primary parameter for expression is controlled by Channel Pressure. On a Seaboard, LinnStrument, Sensel morph and even GeoShred (with 3D Touch) this is pressing into the key. As long as your controller can conform to MPE you should be good. Note that a number of wind controllers now support MPE.
Here is my brief overview of MPE:
http://www.moforte.com/ccrma-open-house-presentation-322018/
Why don't you reach out to us directly at [email protected]. I don't fully understand what you are describing. I'd love to see a video. I'm sure we can help you with this.
Yes that is true you can stack, layer the instruments. We have long had a mixer in the works, however AUM does kind of mitigate the need to do this. Also different instruments have different ranges so layering has challenges. We may come back to this in the coming months.
You know the physics of a woodwind instrument, continuously driven strings and a even feedback guitar are all similar. It's a 2 stage system with a driven excitation. If you look at some of our presentations about the technology behind physical modeling, strings, tubes are transmission lines with terminations that reflect. Excitation is injected into the transmission line at various points. We tend to represent the string or tube with a feedback delay line. This is a DSP representation of D'Alemberts Solution to the Partial Differential Equation of the string or tube. The excitation can be seen as another loop that wraps around the string or tube. The topology of the DSP representations is actually more elaborate than this, but that is the simple exaplanation.
Given that the physics is actually so similar, it's not surprising that bow strings, flutes, feedback guitars can create similar signals.
Here is our presentation about the history of Physical Modeling Synthesis.
http://www.moforte.com/aes-sf-5-6-2020/
Love it!
I'd love to know what the news is ;-) Well I guess everyone will know next week.
Now that is really interesting. Would be kind of neat if one could slightly offset (with a "human feel" setting) the instruments so they wouldn't all hit notes at the exact same time every time. Could give more realism to this kind of instrument clustering.
It's there, it's just very subtle.
Overblow is only available for the GeoFlute and GeoBassFlute. It causes the model to hop up to the 2nd harmonic. I see that in part of the doc it says that it's available for all the woodwinds, but it's only available for the GeoFlutes. We will fix that part of the documentation.
Is it possible to layer a GeoSWAM patch with one of the factory patches?
It's not patches that are layered. It's instruments. Yes you can have an instance of one of the guitars and one of the GeoSWAM instruments. For instance start with the classical guitar, go to the preset editor and add in the GeoFlute.
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