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Melody Generators

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  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock
    edited October 2020

    Stravinski, It does send midi out @Gavinski

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    I see someone answered already

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock
    edited October 2020

    Fortamento, will do 4 bar melody’s all day just mute the chords. And if you like you can change Melody.

    Wolfram Tones, the website is pretty dope, when selecting instruments, just select a Melody only.

    http://tones.wolfram.com/generate/GwzuHYZa6u5lQUAkUxkeASZf7Z2IWHDvrR2qrujQnnhvBh

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    Is it a coincidence that Stravinski and @Gavinski form a perfect rhyme?

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @Vip8888 said:
    Not an app, but Wolfram Tones works in Safari:

    http://tones.wolfram.com/generate

    Oops, I just woke up I’m missing comments left and right. Here’s another website though. It’s more classical music. But generates decent midi.

    https://www.muzoti.com/

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Is it a coincidence that Stravinski and @Gavinski form a perfect rhyme?

    Haha. Well, I got my nickname Gavinski from my days living in Poland, lots of male surnames have this kind of -ski ending 😂

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    Also Dot Melody, just hit the random feature in settings and you will get random short melodies for days.

  • senhorlampadasenhorlampada

    @Poppadocrock said:
    Also Dot Melody, just hit the random feature in settings and you will get random short melodies for days.

    Dot melody is tight! Love it!

    Gonna drop two others...
    YouCompose and iSongwriter

    https://youcompose.com/
    https://isongwriter.belokan.net/landing/index.html

  • ALBALB

    @Ailerom said:

    @ALB said:
    As you seem to want something that takes absolutely no personal input or effort, you could pay someone to generate melodies for you. That would entail interacting with someone though, so maybe that’s out too.

    I'm looking for something to provide quick melodies as a learning tool for guitar. Hit generate, learn the melody, and so on. Sounds simple enough but nothing seems to work in with guitar too well yet. Well, for my level that is anyway. Just thought there might be more to look at. Fortamento is actually pretty good but I can't get the note range to work particularly well for acoustic guitar. It will do I guess but just wondering if I'm missing any others. GuitarParrot is not bad but the voice overs and crowd shit drives me mad.

    Understood. My comment was a little tongue in cheek, but now that I understand your use case, it all makes sense. Sincerely - best of luck.

  • TheOriginalPaulBTheOriginalPaulB

    Open Loopy, hit record, sing a random melody, stop recording, it loops.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    Ok my fault I missed the whole guitar part of the equation .

    This might not be what you are looking for but I came across it while looking and wanted to share. Very simple Google Melody creation site.

    https://musiclab.chromeexperiments.com/Melody-Maker/

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    Isongwriter might work well. Instantly generate a whole song, or just a melody.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/isongwriter/id779340123

    Possible Music - maybe

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/possible-music/id1436771947

    Impro - AI - Musico - longshot

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/impro-ai-musico/id1357373023

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Is it a coincidence that Stravinski and @Gavinski form a perfect rhyme?

    No coincidence, it’s a sign. @Gavinski you must not write a track with stravinski. Lol

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @Artvarg said:
    Did anyone actually read @Aileroms post? 🤨

    Lol. Not at first. My fault. I could have saved meh self about 3-4 posts if I had.

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99
    edited October 2020

    @Ailerom said:

    @ALB said:
    As you seem to want something that takes absolutely no personal input or effort, you could pay someone to generate melodies for you. That would entail interacting with someone though, so maybe that’s out too.

    I'm looking for something to provide quick melodies as a learning tool for guitar. Hit generate, learn the melody, and so on. Sounds simple enough but nothing seems to work in with guitar too well yet. Well, for my level that is anyway. Just thought there might be more to look at. Fortamento is actually pretty good but I can't get the note range to work particularly well for acoustic guitar. It will do I guess but just wondering if I'm missing any others. GuitarParrot is not bad but the voice overs and crowd shit drives me mad.

    I'm still unclear what you need these melodies for.

    Are you trying to develop your ear as a guitarist? Are you trying to improvise chords over a random melody?

    I don't know what level you're at guitar-wise, but I think that it's a waste of time to work with randomly generated melodies.

    You will not only improve your playing by accompanying good songs, but you'll absorb tricks that you wouldn't get from some algorithmic pattern. Why learn some semi-tuneless melody when you could figure out "Case of You" or "Waiting on a Friend" or "Lost in the Supermarket"? It is SO rewarding to your growth not just as a player but as a writer to play alongside your heroes.

    I'll never forget the day I learned "Karma Police" by Radiohead and I suddenly realized that the weird Em7 had to have been stolen from "Space Oddity" — and that Thom Yorke once sat down to figure out Bowie himself.

    Maybe I'm off-base? Maybe I'm not understanding what you're after, but I would absolutely recommend learning real songs.

    (edited; I left out the minor in the chord name!)

  • KorakiosKorakios

    GarageBand has nice drum XY patterns

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    Maybe I'm off-base? Maybe I'm not understanding what you're after, but I would absolutely recommend learning real songs.

    Agreed. The ear-training diet becomes part of one's improvisational repertoire. I'd rather feed my brain music I like to listen to than randomness.

  • AileromAilerom

    @mlau said:
    did you just get an ipad ? 😎

    I'm pretty new to it. Had it for a year but I find the music making paradigm is a big change.

  • AileromAilerom

    @ExAsperis99 said:.
    I'm still unclear what you need these melodies for.

    Are you trying to develop your ear as a guitarist? Are you trying to improvise chords over a random melody?

    I don't know what level you're at guitar-wise, but I think that it's a waste of time to work with randomly generated melodies.

    You will not only improve your playing by accompanying good songs, but you'll absorb tricks that you wouldn't get from some algorithmic pattern. Why learn some semi-tuneless melody when you could figure out "Case of You" or "Waiting on a Friend" or "Lost in the Supermarket"? It is SO rewarding to your growth not just as a player but as a writer to play alongside your heroes.

    I'll never forget the day I learned "Karma Police" by Radiohead and I suddenly realized that the weird E7 had to have been stolen from "Space Oddity" — and that Thom Yorke once sat down to figure out Bowie himself.

    Maybe I'm off-base? Maybe I'm not understanding what you're after, but I would absolutely recommend learning real songs.

    Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I'll look at all of these over the next few days.

    I've played guitar most days for about 30 years so plenty of learning other songs and writing my own has occurred. Now that I'm old and have no musical future I'm just trying to appease my own ideas of what skills I wish I had. One thing I have never had is a natural ear for just jumping to any note I hear. I'm pretty good at working out chord structure for covers that I performed until this year went to shit. I've created over 130 backing tracks for live performance with multi tracked guitars, synths, bass, superior drummer, orchestration and anything the original song has. I never really thought of the idea I'm trying here until GuitarParrot came out. So basically I agree with you wholeheartedly but to a point I'm over that.

    I was doing a live version of Space Oddity so I'm curious to know more about this weird E7 chord.

    Again, thanks all for the suggestions and sorry for the confusion.

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    The E minor 7 happens in this line:
    Em7
    "For here, am I SITTING IN A TIN CAN..."

    It's not that crazy at all, but it's just kind of an ugly chord on its own, and it's so unexpectedly resonant in context.

  • AileromAilerom
    edited October 2020

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    The E minor 7 happens in this line:
    Em7
    "For here, am I SITTING IN A TIN CAN..."

    It's not that crazy at all, but it's just kind of an ugly chord on its own, and it's so unexpectedly resonant in context.

    One of my favourite parts. I love that Fmaj7 to Em7 part. Especially coming from a progression with E7. To me it's sort of like all serious and then the Fma7 makes it feel like you are floating in the clouds. Then the Em7 brings the melancholy vibe. It's a really emotive section of the song for me and mainly because of those 2 chords. Even without knowing the lyrics.

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @Ailerom said:
    One thing I have never had is a natural ear for just jumping to any note I hear.

    Suggest singing scale patterns over a tanpura drone. That will improve your relative pitch chops in no time.

  • TheOriginalPaulBTheOriginalPaulB

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    The E minor 7 happens in this line:
    Em7
    "For here, am I SITTING IN A TIN CAN..."

    Oh wait... so it’s ‘SITTING in a tin can’...

    Always thought that it was a bit of a strange lyric...

  • GovernorSilverGovernorSilver

    miRack and SunVox have melody generating capabilities but might require more upfront time investment. It took me about 2 weeks of tutorial video studies and playing around on my own to come up with this simple generative patch.

  • AileromAilerom

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Ailerom said:
    One thing I have never had is a natural ear for just jumping to any note I hear.

    Suggest singing scale patterns over a tanpura drone. That will improve your relative pitch chops in no time.

    Sounds interesting. Do you think singing is better than playing? Just wondering how that can help with transferring what I hear to the fretboard.

  • McDMcD

    Isn't anyone going to respond with:

    You can do that with Drambo.

    Probably because they'd have to provide the Random Sequencer patch to back it up.
    So, I'm NOT saying it. But @rs2000 could build one in a couple hours with controls for
    random, pick-a-scale and random-scales. But you never know what has his attention.

    If it didn't have to have it's own sound engine Xequence 2 with Polyhymnia would be a good choice driving a synth target. @SevenSystems @SevenSystems @SevenSystems. I like to conjure him once in a while just to see if he's Covid free.

  • SpookyZooSpookyZoo

    Ampify’s Groovebox.

    Hit that random button.

    It’s free too.

  • KorakiosKorakios

    Egoist can turn melodic parts to complete new level , although experimental

    @SpookyZoo said:
    Ampify’s Groovebox.

    Hit that random button.

    It’s free too.

    I think it’s not complete random ,it picks random preset patterns . But definitely it fits in with superb sounds

  • rs2000rs2000

    @McD said:
    Isn't anyone going to respond with:

    You can do that with Drambo.

    Probably because they'd have to provide the Random Sequencer patch to back it up.
    So, I'm NOT saying it. But @rs2000 could build one in a couple hours with controls for
    random, pick-a-scale and random-scales. But you never know what has his attention.

    Funny coincidence. I just started one two weeks ago.
    I have no time to develop it further atm but I'm not the only Drambo guy here, feel free to take this one as a basis for your own experiments and enhancements!

    https://patchstorage.com/pseudo-random-playground/

  • SpookyZooSpookyZoo
    edited October 2020

    @Korakios said:
    Egoist can turn melodic parts to complete new level , although experimental

    @SpookyZoo said:
    Ampify’s Groovebox.

    Hit that random button.

    It’s free too.

    I think it’s not complete random ,it picks random preset patterns . But definitely it fits in with superb sounds

    You're absolutely correct, it's just choosing a preset pattern at random.

    Having read all of the OP's posts here though, I think this is a pretty decent solution. Quick setup, good internal sounds, musical melodies, easy to loop 1 or 2 bars, easy to change/randomise at will. Can even having a backing drumbeat if desired.

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