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Are LK and ATOM2 comparable?
I wonder of they are comparable at all?
Guess the question is for those who understands what Atom2 going to be if it'll be available any time "soon".
I have Atom and have been clicking on that "coming soon" I don't know how many times. Now I've started playing with LK a little bit and it seems quite nice but is a bit pricey if you want the whole lot. So if they are similar I can wait a little bit more.
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They are comparable, but they approach the same thing from different angles.
For detailed work, accuracy I would definitely go with Atom. The feature set is incredible, design, overall stability. (previous experience with the dev)
But if you are working on some multitrack arrangement, you might want to avoid clutter in your host, so having single plugin take care of all the sequencing instead of multiple instances of Atom makes sense too. I think most things can be done in either of them, but for specific task one could be better than the other.
For this comparison all you need is Martix. That’s the sequencer part of LK. On top of that you can buy some other useful tools but that’s optional.
Thank you so much. I think I will do just that and just stop looking at that soon thread again
till the app has been released. I was worried that Matrix would be limited but if I can roll with just that it sounds okay. I did test some midi import and it worked real nice except I could not figure out how to stretch the notes (export from Rock DM).
To my surprise, LK which was "only" an Ableton Live remote originally has recently turned into that quick & straightforward pattern based sequencer AUv3 I was always missing in Atom so I switched and I don't regret it.
Yeah LK is pretty no fuss. Don't know anything about Atom, but my guess is that if you just want to put a song together LK is probably the way to go.
Atom seems a lot more flexible and powerful - but with that flexibility you're going to lose convenience. Also, by the time Atom 2 launches LK may well have feature parity... When it launched (what, a month ago?) I remember thinking that it was cool, but not really suitable for actual use. Now I'm having trouble keeping up with all the new features they've added, while I've been impressed by their willingness to address UX issues...
Also with LK (as additional IAPs) you get some other useful MIDI controllers built into the same interface. Which I appreciate.
I think they could work well together and that's how I'll probably use Atom. Export from Atom into LK for arranging
Agreed. I'm messing about with something somewhat different. LK and Xequence working together, with other sequencers and etc feeding both of them (Quantum, Fugue, Nodebeat, etc)
i think LK is going to be easier to trigger multiple clips at a time, simply one press and just like ableton they all fire off...i don’t know how atom 2 is going to handle this so i’m not really sure how ill use it to arrange a song, but it isn’t out yet and dont know if you can start/stop multiple clips as easily as LK yet
My Matrix purchase somehow disappeared today when I followed up and bought Controller, which I think is all I need using LK as I have KB-1 and some other controllers too. Anyone else experienced this? I have the receipt so I guess it'll be solved in due time but it's annoying none the less.
I started to appreciate the investment and had set up a row of instruments when all of a sudden this green "We hope that you enjoy..." Well, I am trying dude!
Try going to store > restore purchases in the standalone version.
At first I was inpatient using atom v2 but finally Lk concept better suit3 my need.
Building song structure and recording note and cc Lk cover both. It seems atom won’t easily allow song structure and multiple tracks. Atome v2 seems far more powerful and the interface more accessible and easier to use but it’s concept of multiples tracks seems too much time consuming and hardly feel the gap of building song in a dawless environnement like AUM.
That was weird, I did check before and even wrote that to Sinusoidal, maybe I looked at the AU version but darn this is kinda
. I also looked at the Dashboard on the Imaginado site which also said I did not have it. Well. Thanks Wim, once again 
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embarrassing
EDIT: Checked again at the site and it still say I only have the controller so that one is probably not too reliable.
I invite you all to make these comparisons when Atom 2 releases. I encourage it, and can't wait to see your thoughts about improving workflows or adding new features once the app finally passes review. As it stands, it's too easy to speculate or make wrong assumptions. I know this comes from a place of enthusiasm, so I'm grateful it does happen.
Reading this thread, I feel compelled to clarify that the multi-track / song arrangement assumption about Atom 2 is wrong. Atom 2 makes it very easy to do clip launching a'la Ableton Live, with a plethora of scene triggering options, many (many!) of which haven't been teased.
Please know that I don't want to intervene in these discussions. I encourage this kind of conversation, and competition it good for the entire ecosystem.
@blueveek I'm patiently waiting and confident I'll end up using them together. I take it will be possible to launch an instance of Atom from an LK clip right? Either with a note, or from automation cc? I'm using that now to launch patterns in Drumcomputer, Rozeta Rythm.
Correct: either one instance, or multiple at the same time. Or trigger/release, mute, or solo them in groups/tracks, or arm recording, or change their tempo, or push/pull their timeline by a certain amount of milliseconds. Or...
There's so many options for scene triggering I've asked the mighty @tk32 to make some diagrams to help out. The defaults are sensible and easy though.
@blueveek Awesome. I'm looking forward to discovering the possibilities of exactly that!
Our dashboard doesn't magically knows that you have purchased an in-app purchase unless your purchase or restore purchases while logged in with your account.
Well how did it (i.e Matrix which I bought before Controller) disappear in the first place?
Here’s a quick example of how Atom2 enables you to build songs by sequencing itself.
Just one of many different uses for this completely modular tool.
Ug. I really don't like this kind of thread.
I know there's nothing really wrong with them, but one app vs. another threads just seem ... rude? Particularly when both developers are active on the forum. I'm all for discussing the merits of apps separately, but this thread bothers me like it would bother me if two acquaintances were in the room and people were discussing which one was better than the other.
Sorry ... just had to express that. It's not disapproval - just saying it's uncomfortable for me personally.
I'll just go now. I'm sure I'll regret having said anything rather than just avoiding it in the first place. Carry on. ✌🏼
It doesn't take long at all. You just need to pick a trigger note for each Atom, then draw those into your sequencer pattern.
Happy to share my templates when this launches.
Totally agree with @wim - even though I'm somewhat guilty in keeping this thread alive.
Let's please let this thread sink now. Both apps are gonna be great.
+1
LK is pretty slick, I may get it if Atom 2 takes much longer.
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Hiya, rude guy here. As I started it, please let me end it.
First of all my title was maybe a bit wrong, changed that. Anyway I urge you to read the very first sentence in the initial post. Second, comparing a persons product to an actual person is a bit far fetched. I really hope my person never gets compared to the various "products" I've released upon the world (mainly art but also some websites etc.) but if I do I don't mind getting that question in the room where I am.
Now, I honestly apologize if developers was hurt by my question (@blueveek , @sinosoidal), that was not my intention. The question was about spending money, I don't have a lot of it so I want to know before I do.
Now, we can let it die / question is answered.
fwiw, I wasn't uncomfortable with the initial question. It was the direction the thread was taking independent of the original question that was making me cringe. I was afraid you would take it that way. Anyway - was none of of my business. I should have just stopped reading the thread.
Well that's worth a lot and I sometimes are a bit over-sensitive to my own great annoyance. No hard feelings, I hope, and let's just move on then.
I don’t see what the big deal is with this thread being controversial.
The apps do seem comparable, but maybe some people don’t realize they are similar at all.
That other thread for Gauss, though, has Enso getting kicked about some.
It's not controversial and I don't see anyone making "Big Deal" out of it. It just seems a bit awkward in my own personal opinion.
OK, really, I am gone for real this time.